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In 2012, PennDot finally put in 4-way stop signs at the intersection, along with a stop sign in the southbound lane of 896 just north, in order to slow down speeding traffic and make the corner safe for motorists.The stop signs, along with Route 896 speed bumps, flashing lights, and the multiple signage warning oncoming traffic of the impending stop signs, have worked wonders in improving the safety of this intersection. These traffic measures should have been undertaken DECADES ago by PennDot—they would have alleviated a lot of pain, heartache, headache and expense for many, many people!
According to Robert Ranieri, CISA Manager at the Pa Department of Transportation Bureau of Maintenance and Operations, there were NO reportable crashes from the date of the installation of the stop signs on April 17, 2012 through the end of the year. Data is incomplete and not reported yet for 2013, but as people who live here, with our front door staring at the intersection, we experienced no accidents at the 896/841 intersection last year.
PennDot now plans on installing an overhead traffic light at the intersection. In addition, PennDot may be planning to shave the hill just north of the corner to give greater visibility for motorists traveling southbound on 896. There may be turn lanes added to 896, long with roadwidening and removing the stop sign at Den Road--which worked to slow down the traffic. A PennDot engineering plan for this is due in summer.
THIS IS A BIG MISTAKE. Speed is the enemy on 896 and these PennDot so-called "improvements" will only lead us back to the days of serious crashes at the corner. Removing the stop sign at Den Road will make it again dangerous for residents leaving that development to get back onto Route 896. Shaving the hill will give way to high speeds with motorists racing to beat the green light at the intersection. We will be back to the days of high speed crashes and injuries---guaranteed.
The four way stop signs at the 841/896 intersection have worked miraculously and at low cost. The stop sign at Den Road has succeeded in slowing down traffic before the intersection. Why spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on a solution to a problem that does not exist anymore.
How do you improve on ZERO reportable crashes?
PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION TO KEEP THE STOP SIGNS AT Rt 896/841 AND AT Rt 896/DEN ROAD!
Updates
Reached 500 supporters
April 26, 2015
April 4, 2014
We just hit 100 signatures and PennDOT cannot ignore us anymore. They are pushing a useless project that invites disaster while the current signs keep our neighbors safe. This is just the beginning of the fight to stop their waste of tax dollars.
Reached 100 supporters
April 1, 2014
277 Comments
My mother and grandmother were in an accident at 841/896 not long before the stop signs were added. I think the four way stop was a quick and inexpensive fix. I can't imagine anyone living near that intersection would like a traffic light shining in their windows.
I had a potentially deadly accident at this very corner a few years back. I feel so much safer with the stop sign at Den Road slowing traffic and the stop sign on 896 at Route 841 stopping it completely. Had these been in place earlier, I would never have had the accident.
The light would even be more dangerous than the current stop signs. A red light would back up traffic and those coming over the hills from the south would not see the back up. The stop lights will cause more injuries than the current stops signs.
This 4 way stop sign at 841 is the perfect set up. The stop sign at Duncan stops traffic at the top of the hill southbound 896 in plain view removing the risk of being rear ended by vehichles crowning the hill at a high rate of speed.
I am the resident at the corner of Den Road and Rt 896. The current stop sign configuration has benefited our development. Removing the stop signs in favor of a light will re-create a problem that has already been solved.
they work, leave them
It works. Slow down
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In 2012, PennDot finally put in 4-way stop signs at the intersection, along with a stop sign in the southbound lane of 896 just north, in order to slow down speeding traffic and make the corner safe for motorists.The stop signs, along with Route 896 speed bumps, flashing lights, and the multiple signage warning oncoming traffic of the impending stop signs, have worked wonders in improving the safety of this intersection. These traffic measures should have been undertaken DECADES ago by PennDot—they would have alleviated a lot of pain, heartache, headache and expense for many, many people!
According to Robert Ranieri, CISA Manager at the Pa Department of Transportation Bureau of Maintenance and Operations, there were NO reportable crashes from the date of the installation of the stop signs on April 17, 2012 through the end of the year. Data is incomplete and not reported yet for 2013, but as people who live here, with our front door staring at the intersection, we experienced no accidents at the 896/841 intersection last year.
PennDot now plans on installing an overhead traffic light at the intersection. In addition, PennDot may be planning to shave the hill just north of the corner to give greater visibility for motorists traveling southbound on 896. There may be turn lanes added to 896, long with roadwidening and removing the stop sign at Den Road--which worked to slow down the traffic. A PennDot engineering plan for this is due in summer.
THIS IS A BIG MISTAKE. Speed is the enemy on 896 and these PennDot so-called "improvements" will only lead us back to the days of serious crashes at the corner. Removing the stop sign at Den Road will make it again dangerous for residents leaving that development to get back onto Route 896. Shaving the hill will give way to high speeds with motorists racing to beat the green light at the intersection. We will be back to the days of high speed crashes and injuries---guaranteed.
The four way stop signs at the 841/896 intersection have worked miraculously and at low cost. The stop sign at Den Road has succeeded in slowing down traffic before the intersection. Why spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on a solution to a problem that does not exist anymore.
How do you improve on ZERO reportable crashes?
PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION TO KEEP THE STOP SIGNS AT Rt 896/841 AND AT Rt 896/DEN ROAD!
Updates
Reached 500 supporters
April 26, 2015
April 4, 2014
We just hit 100 signatures and PennDOT cannot ignore us anymore. They are pushing a useless project that invites disaster while the current signs keep our neighbors safe. This is just the beginning of the fight to stop their waste of tax dollars.
Reached 100 supporters
April 1, 2014
277 Comments
Traffic signal level of service (LOS) is based on average delay per vehicle. More time would be wasted sitting at a red light than the stop signs. Green lights would also encourage drivers to speed through before the light turns yellow.
My mother and grandmother were in an accident at 841/896 not long before the stop signs were added. I think the four way stop was a quick and inexpensive fix. I can't imagine anyone living near that intersection would like a traffic light shining in their windows.
I had a potentially deadly accident at this very corner a few years back. I feel so much safer with the stop sign at Den Road slowing traffic and the stop sign on 896 at Route 841 stopping it completely. Had these been in place earlier, I would never have had the accident.
The light would even be more dangerous than the current stop signs. A red light would back up traffic and those coming over the hills from the south would not see the back up. The stop lights will cause more injuries than the current stops signs.
This 4 way stop sign at 841 is the perfect set up. The stop sign at Duncan stops traffic at the top of the hill southbound 896 in plain view removing the risk of being rear ended by vehichles crowning the hill at a high rate of speed.
I am the resident at the corner of Den Road and Rt 896. The current stop sign configuration has benefited our development. Removing the stop signs in favor of a light will re-create a problem that has already been solved.
they work, leave them
It works. Slow down
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Traffic signal level of service (LOS) is based on average delay per vehicle. More time would be wasted sitting at a red light than the stop signs. Green lights would also encourage drivers to speed through before the light turns yellow.