Carlsbad: Stop Low Flying, Loud, and Unsafe planes from operating over our Homes and Neighborhoods
The frequent and repetitive flyovers from small and large aircrafts have increased dramatically and is significantly impacting the safety and quality of life for Carlsbad residents near McClellan-Palomar Airport, specifically north of Palomar Airport Road and east of Agua Hedionda lagoon. The low flying single engine airplanes throughout the day and night create a tremendous amount of noise as the planes throttle up to clear numerous neighborhoods and businesses. A large majority of these planes are from flight training schools with student pilots at the helm that cause major safety concerns to our residents, in addition to high levels of noise they produce while flying so close to our communities. Many of these training flights fly below the FAA minimum safe altitude of 1,000 feet and constantly repeat a touch and go fly-around pattern, often as frequently as every 2-3 minutes starting as early as 6am and extending past 11 pm at night. The vast majority of these flights do not adhere to the Palomar Airport Advisory Committee Volunteer Noise Abatement Program (VNAP). Not only do these flyovers pose danger to the residents below, it is negatively affecting everyday life including disruption of sleep as well as making these communities less desirable to live in.
We ask you, our elected officials, to exercise your full influence and resources to address this problem. Members of our community have made a series of complaints through the county established website (https://www.sandiegocounty.gov/content/sdc/dpw/airports/palomar/noiseinfo.html) and have attended Palomar Airport Advisory Committee meetings to raise these issues, however, to date no improvement has been observed. As a proposed solution, first and foremost, we ask that the Federal Aviation Administration create safer flight patterns away from our communities. In addition to your working with the airport conducting traffic here, we ask you to appeal urgently to Congress, the FAA, and air traffic control to work effectively with our communities on safety concerns and to create noise abatement laws (as opposed to voluntary programs) for McClellan-Palomar Airport.
Updates
Reached 500 supporters
December 22, 2020
December 21, 2020
The constant drone of these planes is wearing us thin. We are gaining momentum toward 500 signatures so please send this link to your neighbors today.
May 25, 2020
We hit one hundred signatures today. It is exhausting to look at the flight paths every morning but seeing your names here reminds me why I started this fight.
Reached 100 supporters
May 23, 2020
May 22, 2020
The noise over our homes continues to be relentless and exhausting. We are nearing a hundred signatures but we need more momentum to force the city council to actually listen to us. Please find a way to get this in front of your neighbors who are just as tired of these planes as we are.
263 Comments
In particular, jet pilots are requested to fly over San Marcos at 2000 feet but they continue to stay between 1200 and 1500. Some noisier than others. At those levels, they are actually below 1000 feet AGL. This would be just east of the 3 mile airport approach line.
I love private aviation - however enforcement for planes adhering w our exception to pattern fying including penalties is now needed - I’m a pilot and I’ve noticed a huge increase in pilots nit flying approved patterns ! Stay over Palomar - not south of it !!!
Keep the planes from flying so low over homes. If they would just fly straight out for 1/2 mile they would be over Palomar Airport Rd and then the ocean. If they should have engine failure, they could glide and land in a safer location than on top of our homes.
Incessant touch and go ....we work from home and are work is suffering. Can't hear clients when speaking with them....very frustrating when you are in signficant discussion with windows closed and the plane noise can be heard by our clients....
The flight patterns above our homes has become excessive. In the last two nights alone (5/20 and 5/21) we've counted airplanes making 10 different low passes above our home. It is loud, it is excessive and it needs to be addressed.
We literally just moved to San Diego and unbeknownst to us, we live in the flight path of several airports. The noise is ridiculous. I have hyperacute hearing like a bat, and trying to hold a conversation in our living room is almost impossible. It’s noise pollution. This is supposed to be a higher end neighborhood and we should not have to deal with this nonsense.
They constantly circle, and it is very disruptive and loud. Why can’t they fly someplace that doesn’t have residential areas like further inland where there’s much more open land?
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Carlsbad: Stop Low Flying, Loud, and Unsafe planes from operating over our Homes and Neighborhoods
The frequent and repetitive flyovers from small and large aircrafts have increased dramatically and is significantly impacting the safety and quality of life for Carlsbad residents near McClellan-Palomar Airport, specifically north of Palomar Airport Road and east of Agua Hedionda lagoon. The low flying single engine airplanes throughout the day and night create a tremendous amount of noise as the planes throttle up to clear numerous neighborhoods and businesses. A large majority of these planes are from flight training schools with student pilots at the helm that cause major safety concerns to our residents, in addition to high levels of noise they produce while flying so close to our communities. Many of these training flights fly below the FAA minimum safe altitude of 1,000 feet and constantly repeat a touch and go fly-around pattern, often as frequently as every 2-3 minutes starting as early as 6am and extending past 11 pm at night. The vast majority of these flights do not adhere to the Palomar Airport Advisory Committee Volunteer Noise Abatement Program (VNAP). Not only do these flyovers pose danger to the residents below, it is negatively affecting everyday life including disruption of sleep as well as making these communities less desirable to live in.
We ask you, our elected officials, to exercise your full influence and resources to address this problem. Members of our community have made a series of complaints through the county established website (https://www.sandiegocounty.gov/content/sdc/dpw/airports/palomar/noiseinfo.html) and have attended Palomar Airport Advisory Committee meetings to raise these issues, however, to date no improvement has been observed. As a proposed solution, first and foremost, we ask that the Federal Aviation Administration create safer flight patterns away from our communities. In addition to your working with the airport conducting traffic here, we ask you to appeal urgently to Congress, the FAA, and air traffic control to work effectively with our communities on safety concerns and to create noise abatement laws (as opposed to voluntary programs) for McClellan-Palomar Airport.
Updates
Reached 500 supporters
December 22, 2020
December 21, 2020
The constant drone of these planes is wearing us thin. We are gaining momentum toward 500 signatures so please send this link to your neighbors today.
May 25, 2020
We hit one hundred signatures today. It is exhausting to look at the flight paths every morning but seeing your names here reminds me why I started this fight.
Reached 100 supporters
May 23, 2020
May 22, 2020
The noise over our homes continues to be relentless and exhausting. We are nearing a hundred signatures but we need more momentum to force the city council to actually listen to us. Please find a way to get this in front of your neighbors who are just as tired of these planes as we are.
263 Comments
Planes regularly fly over my location too low and more often in disregard of the recommended flight path which should keep planes from flying over Bressi ranch. Most of the violators seem to be Flight School operations, surprisingly
In particular, jet pilots are requested to fly over San Marcos at 2000 feet but they continue to stay between 1200 and 1500. Some noisier than others. At those levels, they are actually below 1000 feet AGL. This would be just east of the 3 mile airport approach line.
I love private aviation - however enforcement for planes adhering w our exception to pattern fying including penalties is now needed - I’m a pilot and I’ve noticed a huge increase in pilots nit flying approved patterns ! Stay over Palomar - not south of it !!!
Keep the planes from flying so low over homes. If they would just fly straight out for 1/2 mile they would be over Palomar Airport Rd and then the ocean. If they should have engine failure, they could glide and land in a safer location than on top of our homes.
Incessant touch and go ....we work from home and are work is suffering. Can't hear clients when speaking with them....very frustrating when you are in signficant discussion with windows closed and the plane noise can be heard by our clients....
The flight patterns above our homes has become excessive. In the last two nights alone (5/20 and 5/21) we've counted airplanes making 10 different low passes above our home. It is loud, it is excessive and it needs to be addressed.
We literally just moved to San Diego and unbeknownst to us, we live in the flight path of several airports. The noise is ridiculous. I have hyperacute hearing like a bat, and trying to hold a conversation in our living room is almost impossible. It’s noise pollution. This is supposed to be a higher end neighborhood and we should not have to deal with this nonsense.
They constantly circle, and it is very disruptive and loud. Why can’t they fly someplace that doesn’t have residential areas like further inland where there’s much more open land?
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Planes regularly fly over my location too low and more often in disregard of the recommended flight path which should keep planes from flying over Bressi ranch. Most of the violators seem to be Flight School operations, surprisingly