We, the current residents of the North Center neighborhood, oppose the current plan for development of 3950 N. Damen Ave. The building is too large, adds a concerning amount density at an already dangerous and highly congested 6-corners intersection, and doesn't go far enough in meeting the needs of the existing residents. Our neighborhood currently lacks public green space/parks and quality retail/restaurants. The current plan mainly focuses on adding (expensive) rental housing and does not have any committed retail tenants. Specifically, our concerns are as follows:
- Alley Access/Safety: The same developer had previously proposed a plan that included a grocery store with more parking spaces and loading needs. That development plan was feasible without alley access. Now the new proposal requires alley access for loading, deliveries, trash, bank drive-thru and residents. Neighbors have noted on other development proposals in the area that the alleys off of one-way streets are dangerous and experience a lot of cut-thru traffic. This development will exacerbate those issues. The traffic study did not address these issues, car traffic in the alley, or take into account current residents' usage of the alley.
- Traffic: Although the traffic study followed best practices, the turning movement at the Damen entry will contribute to greater delays and queuing issues along Damen. Over the last 3 years, morning and afternoon traffic back up north and south on both Damen and Lincoln has been increasing. This development, along with multiple other developments approved nearby, will make this problem significantly worse.
- Height: With each subsequent development proposal in the area we have seen requests to increase the FAR and associate height of buildings. 7 or 8 stories is excessive and out of character for this community. It sets a bad precedent and is contrary to what other approved developments have had to abide by. As we have seen with other developments in the immediate vicinity, once a height is approved, each subsequent development will attempt to achieve similar density. The developer has repeatedly heard the height along Damen adjacent to single-family homes should be lowered and continues to push for 5-stories. The 4-story condo building directly to the south of the bank parking lot is only one story where it meets the alley. It does not loom over the existing residential homes adjacent to the property. The current design is incongruent with the surrounding context, imposes on the immediate neighbors, and is wrong for the Damen frontage.
- Character: The preservation of the existing stone bank building is important and a welcomed aspect of the proposal. The new building proposed at 3950 N. Damen is too long, tall, and massive and imposes on the existing residents adjacent. As noted in the public meeting, DPD Committee on Design comments have not been addressed.
- Planning: The development is at a very important location, but a plan for what is desired was never socialized and agreed upon by the residents. NCNA developed a plan and a consultant for the SSA developed a massing. Neither had significant public socialization.
- Public Space: The public space noted is not located to be useful for programming or to supplement the lacking green/park space in this area. The plaza space provided only serves the immediate retail tenant and is very similar to many other existing locations on Lincoln Ave and Irving Park that are at best modestly successful.
- Public meeting: We appreciate the public meeting, but the gravity of this development warrants a true in-person public meeting. An in-person public forum has been held in the past and should be scheduled for this development before a decision is made.
Updates
February 2, 2023
I have been spending my evenings walking the alleyway behind our homes to document the traffic issues for the next planning board meeting. Seeing the congestion firsthand reminds me that this neighborhood cannot absorb the current density proposal without failing our families and kids. Thank you for sharing your own stories about the safety hazards you see every single day.
February 2, 2023
The momentum behind this push to protect our neighborhood is overwhelming and shows that I am not alone in fearing for the future of our streets. This level of support proves that we refuse to let another oversized development compromise our safety and quality of life.
Reached 100 supporters
February 2, 2023
73 Comments
Too. Big. Too high. We don’t need oversized buildings with empty storefronts. The plan lacks sufficient parking, and waste management space . That is a critical corner in our community. And our community doesn’t need another large unaffordable building with no plans for community or significant public pace.
The proposed structure is too tall. I don't support a building taller than 4 or 5 stories to be consistent with the neighborhood architecture. I would also much prefer if the proposal was condominiums vs rental.
I am concerned about increase traffic down our street on the 3900 block of Seeley. We already have people who speed down the street on their way to Irving Park making it a dangerous block for kids to play.
this area is already congested, overbuilt, has empty retail & restaurant spaces, tight street parking, busy/heavy traffic and other new construction going up. this proposed rental behemoth is NOT what is needed at this location. please hear what those who LIVE and OWN in this community have to say. thank you.
Fully support the comments, particularly on the alley way entrance, which has not been given the proper thought. Parking implications for the immediate neighborhood has not been given a single thought. With only .4 spaces per unit, what will happen to parking in the neighborhood. Density remains too large for the neighborhood.
I do not think that this is the right development for our community.
Agree with all the above comments. We do NOT need more density, ugly highrise-style buildings and NO parking. When family/guests come to visit us, it is RIDICULOUS that they should have to pay to park on Lincoln Ave. due to no available parking on residential streets. Some say that this (the proposed building) is a "done deal," and the community really has no valued input. I'm hoping this is not the case. Who wants to change our family-oriented neighborhood to a transient (rental units) neighborhood? It's all too much! Density. Congestion. **No parking.** Dog poop. Eyesore. Sunlight-blocker. The list goes on and on. I really don't see how this project could benefit the community in any way, shape, or form. (How 'bout focusing on "turn on green arrow" traffic lights on the extremely busy intersection of Lincoln/Damen/Irving, for example? And yes, how 'bout bringing back the Lincoln bus?) I can't see any benefits of this project to our community whatsoever.
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We, the current residents of the North Center neighborhood, oppose the current plan for development of 3950 N. Damen Ave. The building is too large, adds a concerning amount density at an already dangerous and highly congested 6-corners intersection, and doesn't go far enough in meeting the needs of the existing residents. Our neighborhood currently lacks public green space/parks and quality retail/restaurants. The current plan mainly focuses on adding (expensive) rental housing and does not have any committed retail tenants. Specifically, our concerns are as follows:
- Alley Access/Safety: The same developer had previously proposed a plan that included a grocery store with more parking spaces and loading needs. That development plan was feasible without alley access. Now the new proposal requires alley access for loading, deliveries, trash, bank drive-thru and residents. Neighbors have noted on other development proposals in the area that the alleys off of one-way streets are dangerous and experience a lot of cut-thru traffic. This development will exacerbate those issues. The traffic study did not address these issues, car traffic in the alley, or take into account current residents' usage of the alley.
- Traffic: Although the traffic study followed best practices, the turning movement at the Damen entry will contribute to greater delays and queuing issues along Damen. Over the last 3 years, morning and afternoon traffic back up north and south on both Damen and Lincoln has been increasing. This development, along with multiple other developments approved nearby, will make this problem significantly worse.
- Height: With each subsequent development proposal in the area we have seen requests to increase the FAR and associate height of buildings. 7 or 8 stories is excessive and out of character for this community. It sets a bad precedent and is contrary to what other approved developments have had to abide by. As we have seen with other developments in the immediate vicinity, once a height is approved, each subsequent development will attempt to achieve similar density. The developer has repeatedly heard the height along Damen adjacent to single-family homes should be lowered and continues to push for 5-stories. The 4-story condo building directly to the south of the bank parking lot is only one story where it meets the alley. It does not loom over the existing residential homes adjacent to the property. The current design is incongruent with the surrounding context, imposes on the immediate neighbors, and is wrong for the Damen frontage.
- Character: The preservation of the existing stone bank building is important and a welcomed aspect of the proposal. The new building proposed at 3950 N. Damen is too long, tall, and massive and imposes on the existing residents adjacent. As noted in the public meeting, DPD Committee on Design comments have not been addressed.
- Planning: The development is at a very important location, but a plan for what is desired was never socialized and agreed upon by the residents. NCNA developed a plan and a consultant for the SSA developed a massing. Neither had significant public socialization.
- Public Space: The public space noted is not located to be useful for programming or to supplement the lacking green/park space in this area. The plaza space provided only serves the immediate retail tenant and is very similar to many other existing locations on Lincoln Ave and Irving Park that are at best modestly successful.
- Public meeting: We appreciate the public meeting, but the gravity of this development warrants a true in-person public meeting. An in-person public forum has been held in the past and should be scheduled for this development before a decision is made.
Updates
February 2, 2023
I have been spending my evenings walking the alleyway behind our homes to document the traffic issues for the next planning board meeting. Seeing the congestion firsthand reminds me that this neighborhood cannot absorb the current density proposal without failing our families and kids. Thank you for sharing your own stories about the safety hazards you see every single day.
February 2, 2023
The momentum behind this push to protect our neighborhood is overwhelming and shows that I am not alone in fearing for the future of our streets. This level of support proves that we refuse to let another oversized development compromise our safety and quality of life.
Reached 100 supporters
February 2, 2023
73 Comments
We need density that will allow for and be the root cause of more retail/ restuarants. Yet this building is too tall will be ominous over the corner , and is not like the height of others near to it. Apts and condos will help w/ the density issue yet not at this proposed grand scale. Public greenspace needs to be incorporated.
Too. Big. Too high. We don’t need oversized buildings with empty storefronts. The plan lacks sufficient parking, and waste management space . That is a critical corner in our community. And our community doesn’t need another large unaffordable building with no plans for community or significant public pace.
The proposed structure is too tall. I don't support a building taller than 4 or 5 stories to be consistent with the neighborhood architecture. I would also much prefer if the proposal was condominiums vs rental.
I am concerned about increase traffic down our street on the 3900 block of Seeley. We already have people who speed down the street on their way to Irving Park making it a dangerous block for kids to play.
this area is already congested, overbuilt, has empty retail & restaurant spaces, tight street parking, busy/heavy traffic and other new construction going up. this proposed rental behemoth is NOT what is needed at this location. please hear what those who LIVE and OWN in this community have to say. thank you.
Fully support the comments, particularly on the alley way entrance, which has not been given the proper thought. Parking implications for the immediate neighborhood has not been given a single thought. With only .4 spaces per unit, what will happen to parking in the neighborhood. Density remains too large for the neighborhood.
I do not think that this is the right development for our community.
Agree with all the above comments. We do NOT need more density, ugly highrise-style buildings and NO parking. When family/guests come to visit us, it is RIDICULOUS that they should have to pay to park on Lincoln Ave. due to no available parking on residential streets. Some say that this (the proposed building) is a "done deal," and the community really has no valued input. I'm hoping this is not the case. Who wants to change our family-oriented neighborhood to a transient (rental units) neighborhood? It's all too much! Density. Congestion. **No parking.** Dog poop. Eyesore. Sunlight-blocker. The list goes on and on. I really don't see how this project could benefit the community in any way, shape, or form. (How 'bout focusing on "turn on green arrow" traffic lights on the extremely busy intersection of Lincoln/Damen/Irving, for example? And yes, how 'bout bringing back the Lincoln bus?) I can't see any benefits of this project to our community whatsoever.
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We need density that will allow for and be the root cause of more retail/ restuarants. Yet this building is too tall will be ominous over the corner , and is not like the height of others near to it. Apts and condos will help w/ the density issue yet not at this proposed grand scale. Public greenspace needs to be incorporated.