***CLARIFICATION OF PURPOSE OF PETITION***
The following is in response to some questions that students have presented about the purpose of the petition – it in no way changes the terms of the petition. The petition stands for CHOICE. It does not stand for forcing students who do not feel comfortable to return.
The petition simply requests that everyone have the option to decide for themselves whether he/she/they returns to campus in the fall. Individuals’ are best suited to determine whether they are comfortable with or should be in-person for the fall semester. All individual feelings and opinions about the topic are respected and valid. If returning is not permitted, and class remains online, then this petition seeks a tuition reduction.
To the faculty and administrators of the University of Detroit Mercy School of Law:
The following petition was written on behalf of the students who have signed below. Those who have signed hereby demand that the law school hold in-person classes for the Fall 2020 term. When it was decided that classes would be held online for the remainder of the Winter 2020 term, students were told that the closure of the building was to “flatten the curve.” The goal of flattening the curve was to protect our healthcare system from becoming over ran, and allow the healthcare system to prepare to operate at a higher capacity.
By the time the Fall 2020 Term begins, it will have been roughly 170 days – that is nearly half of the year. Despite this, the school and administration are still heavily considering a fully online education for the Fall 2020 Term. The students have complied with the school’s policies and regulations thus far, but we the students are now demanding the full value of the education that we pay for. As of May, the State of Michigan has started the process of re-opening in compliance with the CDC guidelines. Additionally, there is no indication of when or if there will ever be a vaccine or cure. Suspending in-person classes until the safety of a vaccine or a cure is obtained is detrimental not only to the education of students currently enrolled, but also to the future success of the law school.
Students who have signed this petition vow to:
- Follow all regulations set forth by the CDC;
- Follow all regulations set forth by the University of Detroit Mercy School of Law; and
- Not hold the law school liable if they, the signee, become ill with COVID-19.
As future advocates of others, we find it important be advocate on our own behalves. A legal education administered completely online falls gravely short of its in-person counterpart. The value of in-person interactions between classmates and professors is impossible to recreate through technology.
Our first and true request is to return to the classrooms in the fall, but if the school fails to reopen, and offer anything other than an in-person education, students demand a 50% cut in their tuition. Despite the valiant efforts of the professors at Detroit Mercy Law, an online-only education fails to supply students with the full value of a $44,000 per year education.
13 Comments
I agree we should look forward in hope that the school will be reopen in the Fall. If it is in fact too unsafe to return I definitely think we are entitled to a reduced tuition.
Please we need to be on campus in the fall. We cannot learn from home, too many distractions and not the best environment for learning.
There is a reason the ABA has not allowed for online law school up until this point and it’s because it simply is not the quality of education we want future lawyers to receive.
In the event that Fall 2020 will proceed as the remaining quarter of the preceding Winter, I'm failing to grasp why my agreement with the law school should remain unchanged. I understand that there are many moving parts to this decision which has apparently already been reached, but the words "not economically feasible" will require further explanation.
students should have the choice unless there are serious health and safety risks to everyone.
I sign in full support of returning to campus in the fall. As my colleagues have already noted, the American Bar Association has a limit on online courses, because it acknowledges and believes that a juris doctor cannot be adequately earned online. I respectfully, but vehemently request tuition be lowered significantly should the administration decide against coming back to campus in the fall. The CDC has recommendations for reentering places of higher learning, and I believe we should adhere to them, understanding that coming back to campus while adhering to the guidelines is not in the high risk category. Disinfecting surfaces and wearing protective masks when applicable are sacrifices we, as students are willing to make. We adhered to the school's decisions at the beginning of the pandemic, and will continue to do so when there is evidence that points to exactly what we should do. While now there are not defined rules, there are recommendations and guidelines. We should adhere to these guidelines. Which include guiding and ensuring the safe return to places of higher learning. The administration of Detroit Mercy Law must acknowledge that we, as students, agreed to pay for a degree that would better our future and ensure our success. The professors at the end of the Winter 2020 term did the best they could with what they were given, and I am not denying that they would continue to serve us well as individual professors. However, this situation of 100% online learning is not feasible any more for the staff than it is for the student body. I am not asking for our hands to be held. Teaching is not hand-holding. Teaching is what your staff agreed to do for us, and in return, we agreed to pay tuition. As simplified as that is, that exchange is not satisfied within the confinements on an online education. Also, there are different household compositions and personal issues that the majority of the student body has, that will make it near impossible to rem
Kristianth, Thank you for your support, those of us who have signed greatly appreciate it. We are grateful that in less than two days the petition has received 90 signatures. Your comment points out the exact goal of this petition – CHOICE. Your decision to stay home is valid and we respect that. Those who have signed simply want the same choice in return. Best, Stephanie Stavrou
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***CLARIFICATION OF PURPOSE OF PETITION***
The following is in response to some questions that students have presented about the purpose of the petition – it in no way changes the terms of the petition. The petition stands for CHOICE. It does not stand for forcing students who do not feel comfortable to return.
The petition simply requests that everyone have the option to decide for themselves whether he/she/they returns to campus in the fall. Individuals’ are best suited to determine whether they are comfortable with or should be in-person for the fall semester. All individual feelings and opinions about the topic are respected and valid. If returning is not permitted, and class remains online, then this petition seeks a tuition reduction.
To the faculty and administrators of the University of Detroit Mercy School of Law:
The following petition was written on behalf of the students who have signed below. Those who have signed hereby demand that the law school hold in-person classes for the Fall 2020 term. When it was decided that classes would be held online for the remainder of the Winter 2020 term, students were told that the closure of the building was to “flatten the curve.” The goal of flattening the curve was to protect our healthcare system from becoming over ran, and allow the healthcare system to prepare to operate at a higher capacity.
By the time the Fall 2020 Term begins, it will have been roughly 170 days – that is nearly half of the year. Despite this, the school and administration are still heavily considering a fully online education for the Fall 2020 Term. The students have complied with the school’s policies and regulations thus far, but we the students are now demanding the full value of the education that we pay for. As of May, the State of Michigan has started the process of re-opening in compliance with the CDC guidelines. Additionally, there is no indication of when or if there will ever be a vaccine or cure. Suspending in-person classes until the safety of a vaccine or a cure is obtained is detrimental not only to the education of students currently enrolled, but also to the future success of the law school.
Students who have signed this petition vow to:
- Follow all regulations set forth by the CDC;
- Follow all regulations set forth by the University of Detroit Mercy School of Law; and
- Not hold the law school liable if they, the signee, become ill with COVID-19.
As future advocates of others, we find it important be advocate on our own behalves. A legal education administered completely online falls gravely short of its in-person counterpart. The value of in-person interactions between classmates and professors is impossible to recreate through technology.
Our first and true request is to return to the classrooms in the fall, but if the school fails to reopen, and offer anything other than an in-person education, students demand a 50% cut in their tuition. Despite the valiant efforts of the professors at Detroit Mercy Law, an online-only education fails to supply students with the full value of a $44,000 per year education.
13 Comments
Not only are students entitled to reduced tuition in the fall semester, but also the summer semester. There is no way we are receiving a value worth $1500 per credit by participating in online classes.
I agree we should look forward in hope that the school will be reopen in the Fall. If it is in fact too unsafe to return I definitely think we are entitled to a reduced tuition.
Please we need to be on campus in the fall. We cannot learn from home, too many distractions and not the best environment for learning.
There is a reason the ABA has not allowed for online law school up until this point and it’s because it simply is not the quality of education we want future lawyers to receive.
In the event that Fall 2020 will proceed as the remaining quarter of the preceding Winter, I'm failing to grasp why my agreement with the law school should remain unchanged. I understand that there are many moving parts to this decision which has apparently already been reached, but the words "not economically feasible" will require further explanation.
students should have the choice unless there are serious health and safety risks to everyone.
I sign in full support of returning to campus in the fall. As my colleagues have already noted, the American Bar Association has a limit on online courses, because it acknowledges and believes that a juris doctor cannot be adequately earned online. I respectfully, but vehemently request tuition be lowered significantly should the administration decide against coming back to campus in the fall. The CDC has recommendations for reentering places of higher learning, and I believe we should adhere to them, understanding that coming back to campus while adhering to the guidelines is not in the high risk category. Disinfecting surfaces and wearing protective masks when applicable are sacrifices we, as students are willing to make. We adhered to the school's decisions at the beginning of the pandemic, and will continue to do so when there is evidence that points to exactly what we should do. While now there are not defined rules, there are recommendations and guidelines. We should adhere to these guidelines. Which include guiding and ensuring the safe return to places of higher learning. The administration of Detroit Mercy Law must acknowledge that we, as students, agreed to pay for a degree that would better our future and ensure our success. The professors at the end of the Winter 2020 term did the best they could with what they were given, and I am not denying that they would continue to serve us well as individual professors. However, this situation of 100% online learning is not feasible any more for the staff than it is for the student body. I am not asking for our hands to be held. Teaching is not hand-holding. Teaching is what your staff agreed to do for us, and in return, we agreed to pay tuition. As simplified as that is, that exchange is not satisfied within the confinements on an online education. Also, there are different household compositions and personal issues that the majority of the student body has, that will make it near impossible to rem
Kristianth, Thank you for your support, those of us who have signed greatly appreciate it. We are grateful that in less than two days the petition has received 90 signatures. Your comment points out the exact goal of this petition – CHOICE. Your decision to stay home is valid and we respect that. Those who have signed simply want the same choice in return. Best, Stephanie Stavrou
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Not only are students entitled to reduced tuition in the fall semester, but also the summer semester. There is no way we are receiving a value worth $1500 per credit by participating in online classes.