The undersigned property owners who are members of the BIB Property Owners Association, request that the following two topics be placed on the agenda for discussion, pursuant to Florida Statute 720.303.3(d)*.
DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF A TIERED FEE STRUCTURE FOR ANNUAL MAINTENANCE FEES
AND
ADOPTION OF PAYMENT PLAN WITH LATE FEES WAIVED.
In addition to the discussion topics, we offer some solutions to discuss as follows:
1. Make it possible for all lot and homeowners to pay partial fees – quarterly or monthly – without penalty, as long as they pay up in full by the end of the year.
2. Unimproved lots would pay 60% of regular fees. Homes occupied for less than six months of the year would pay 75- 80% of the amount full-time residents of BIB pay. Properties being used as vacation rentals would pay the full fee regardless of occupancy.
3. Forgive a percentage of unpaid back fees, maybe 10%, if they elect to join the lower fee program. Each time they make the reduced payment, they also would be obliged to make a payment against their unpaid back fees (for instance repay 5% of unpaid back fees each pay period) PROVIDED THEY DON'T MISS A PAYMENT.
4. If they miss a payment, they would have to revert to paying the full annual fee for a period of time and back fees would remain undiscounted. The homeowner could reapply for the reduced payment plan again in the future (after one or two years?). This strategy would greatly encourage reliable and consistent payment of current and back fees which are not now being paid.
5. To keep things fair, full-time homeowners with unpaid back fees could apply to receive the same discount to their back fees, provided they keep up to date on HOA payments.
* Florida Statute 720.303.3(d) "If 20 percent of the total voting interests petition the board to address an item of business, the board shall at its next regular board meeting or at a special meeting of the board, but not later than 60 days after the receipt of the petition, take the petitioned item up on an agenda. The board shall give all members notice of the meeting at which the petitioned item shall be addressed in accordance with the 14-day notice requirement pursuant to subparagraph (c)2.
Each member shall have the right to speak for at least 3 minutes on each matter placed on the agenda by petition, provided that the member signs the sign-up sheet, if one is provided, or submits a written request to speak prior to the meeting. Other than addressing the petitioned item at the meeting, the board is not obligated to take any other action requested by the petition."
Updates
March 16, 2020
I really thought this might just fizzle out in a quiet corner of the neighborhood but clearly people are fed up with these outdated fee structures. My printer is already running low on ink from all these forms and honestly it feels amazing to see so many neighbors agreeing that the current system is just broken.
12 Comments
How many owners owe back fees and why haven't they paid them? Isn't that part of the purchase agreement for BIB? Will those that have paid their annual fees each year be reimbursed like those who have unpaid back fees?
I believe a discussion would be beneficial. I do not agree with all the points in the petition
I would love a lower tier HOA fee since my lot is totally unimproved. I DO NOT agree that those who have not fully paid their fees up to now...should get any percentage of FORGIVEN FEE!!! I am totally paid in full. Why do those who do not fulfill their obligations often get all the "forgiveness in money" ? I WOULD LIKE the same percentage of forgiveness of my annual HOA fee just paid....if anyone else....who has withheld their current fee...gets any $$ fee forgiveness! I do not like the recent, negative events at BIB any more than those who have NOT PAID their fees...but I DID NOT WITHHOLD FEE PAYMENT as protest. Please give all residents the same forgiveness of fee % or none at all! That is a bad and unfair idea, in my opinion. No one should be entitled to or be rewarded for not fully paying their HOA fees...for bad behavior. I, also, hope the resident relationships and cooperation/board cooperation, efficiency...and communication becomes more positive, transparent and worthy of every resident and lot owner's confidence. I have been very disappointed in what I've watched, online, happening at BIB. I bought my lot in an "eco- village" knowing what the ideals and the supportive, cooperative life for residents in an "eco-village" should be like. I am educated in permaculture and off-grid homesteading. What I've seen more recently....is a real turn-off...and not a good, positive example of what successful and true "eco-villages" around the world are like. I would think everyone knows that the "personality" of the community...as a whole, the positive or negative energy of BIB would greatly influence the building of more homes by current lot owners and the purchase of lots by outsiders looking to buy, build and live at BIB...in the future! I am not one to argue and I do not like constant animosity...so I am not a resident who gets in the middle of the online conversations/arguments I've followed....but I see much of it. It gets old, so I honestly don
In full agreement. In the future would like to add assistance or recommedations for selling off lots. Thank you!
I believe this board is willing to discuss whatever issues the lot/home-owners wish to bring up. It takes full participation by all lot/home owners to be able to move BIB forward; paying fees is a critical part of this.
I would even say that unimproved lots should only pay 30 % of regular fees.
Wonderful ideas! Thanks to those who started this petition.
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The undersigned property owners who are members of the BIB Property Owners Association, request that the following two topics be placed on the agenda for discussion, pursuant to Florida Statute 720.303.3(d)*.
DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF A TIERED FEE STRUCTURE FOR ANNUAL MAINTENANCE FEES
AND
ADOPTION OF PAYMENT PLAN WITH LATE FEES WAIVED.
In addition to the discussion topics, we offer some solutions to discuss as follows:
1. Make it possible for all lot and homeowners to pay partial fees – quarterly or monthly – without penalty, as long as they pay up in full by the end of the year.
2. Unimproved lots would pay 60% of regular fees. Homes occupied for less than six months of the year would pay 75- 80% of the amount full-time residents of BIB pay. Properties being used as vacation rentals would pay the full fee regardless of occupancy.
3. Forgive a percentage of unpaid back fees, maybe 10%, if they elect to join the lower fee program. Each time they make the reduced payment, they also would be obliged to make a payment against their unpaid back fees (for instance repay 5% of unpaid back fees each pay period) PROVIDED THEY DON'T MISS A PAYMENT.
4. If they miss a payment, they would have to revert to paying the full annual fee for a period of time and back fees would remain undiscounted. The homeowner could reapply for the reduced payment plan again in the future (after one or two years?). This strategy would greatly encourage reliable and consistent payment of current and back fees which are not now being paid.
5. To keep things fair, full-time homeowners with unpaid back fees could apply to receive the same discount to their back fees, provided they keep up to date on HOA payments.
* Florida Statute 720.303.3(d) "If 20 percent of the total voting interests petition the board to address an item of business, the board shall at its next regular board meeting or at a special meeting of the board, but not later than 60 days after the receipt of the petition, take the petitioned item up on an agenda. The board shall give all members notice of the meeting at which the petitioned item shall be addressed in accordance with the 14-day notice requirement pursuant to subparagraph (c)2.
Each member shall have the right to speak for at least 3 minutes on each matter placed on the agenda by petition, provided that the member signs the sign-up sheet, if one is provided, or submits a written request to speak prior to the meeting. Other than addressing the petitioned item at the meeting, the board is not obligated to take any other action requested by the petition."
Updates
March 16, 2020
I really thought this might just fizzle out in a quiet corner of the neighborhood but clearly people are fed up with these outdated fee structures. My printer is already running low on ink from all these forms and honestly it feels amazing to see so many neighbors agreeing that the current system is just broken.
12 Comments
I think these are very important considerations especially because of the development of the current pandemic.
How many owners owe back fees and why haven't they paid them? Isn't that part of the purchase agreement for BIB? Will those that have paid their annual fees each year be reimbursed like those who have unpaid back fees?
I believe a discussion would be beneficial. I do not agree with all the points in the petition
I would love a lower tier HOA fee since my lot is totally unimproved. I DO NOT agree that those who have not fully paid their fees up to now...should get any percentage of FORGIVEN FEE!!! I am totally paid in full. Why do those who do not fulfill their obligations often get all the "forgiveness in money" ? I WOULD LIKE the same percentage of forgiveness of my annual HOA fee just paid....if anyone else....who has withheld their current fee...gets any $$ fee forgiveness! I do not like the recent, negative events at BIB any more than those who have NOT PAID their fees...but I DID NOT WITHHOLD FEE PAYMENT as protest. Please give all residents the same forgiveness of fee % or none at all! That is a bad and unfair idea, in my opinion. No one should be entitled to or be rewarded for not fully paying their HOA fees...for bad behavior. I, also, hope the resident relationships and cooperation/board cooperation, efficiency...and communication becomes more positive, transparent and worthy of every resident and lot owner's confidence. I have been very disappointed in what I've watched, online, happening at BIB. I bought my lot in an "eco- village" knowing what the ideals and the supportive, cooperative life for residents in an "eco-village" should be like. I am educated in permaculture and off-grid homesteading. What I've seen more recently....is a real turn-off...and not a good, positive example of what successful and true "eco-villages" around the world are like. I would think everyone knows that the "personality" of the community...as a whole, the positive or negative energy of BIB would greatly influence the building of more homes by current lot owners and the purchase of lots by outsiders looking to buy, build and live at BIB...in the future! I am not one to argue and I do not like constant animosity...so I am not a resident who gets in the middle of the online conversations/arguments I've followed....but I see much of it. It gets old, so I honestly don
In full agreement. In the future would like to add assistance or recommedations for selling off lots. Thank you!
I believe this board is willing to discuss whatever issues the lot/home-owners wish to bring up. It takes full participation by all lot/home owners to be able to move BIB forward; paying fees is a critical part of this.
I would even say that unimproved lots should only pay 30 % of regular fees.
Wonderful ideas! Thanks to those who started this petition.
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I think these are very important considerations especially because of the development of the current pandemic.