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SAVE BOTHELL - NOT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD!
Final supporters
Joshua Machen Project Manager
Snohomish County Planning and Development
Cc: Snohomish County Council, County Executive Dave Somers
Subject: 22-102098-000-00 SPA + all related permits to 228th Multifamily Development
We, the undersigned, reside in Snohomish County in close proximity to the above referenced project. We have
expressed our concerns, regarding the planned development, to the county with 100's of individual letters, and
with a 500-signature petition last August, 2022.
We are now joining with SaveBothell to express our concerns again.
- 11th Ave W must permanently remain a cul-de-sac in the Eastglen neighborhood, and not be connected in any manner for vehicular traffic. (Site plans indicate future potential connection that we are asking not be allowed.) Emergency vehicles can access the Apartment complex from 228th. A pedestrian/bicycle walkway should connect from the Apartment complex only and not from 228th, as shown in present site drawings; we believe that presents additional safety issues.
- Community Transit service must be in place and serving this complex before plans are made to permit such a development. Residents must have community transit service closer than over 1⁄2 mile up a steep hill.
- In addition to adequate public transit, prior to permitting, adequate measures must be in place to accommodate apartment residents when the 228th hill is often closed in winter.
- The extent of the methane contamination is unknown and unattainable to know. This hazard, that resulted in a large intrusive ash-dumping fire blanketing the surrounding neighborhoods some years ago, and more recently exploded when an employee entered a manhole, needs to be resolved prior to any permitting, so that no methane contamination is affecting the neighborhoods.
- In order to resolve the following list of issues, an Environmental Impact Statement, EIS, needs to be required of NorthPoint by Snohomish County Planning before any permittng. We are very concerned that we, the tax-paying citizens, are not being heard on many issues that we have continuously written to you about. Our concerns are that while Snohomish County code is established, that it is not being followed, at least in the discussions we have had with representatives of Planning and Council. Those issues include not granting the variance, as it is materially detrimental to the surrounding neighborhoods, that the proposed development site does meet landslide hazard definition per code, that the traffic congestion on 228th and surrounding feeder roads has not been adequately, nor correctly studied, that critical areas have been ignored against codes, and been built in, that contaminants harming salmonoid bearing streams have not been safely resolved, and that the entire property has been pastured, for over 70 years, but is being considered as forested, resulting in inadequate stormwater provisions to protect the surrounding neighborhoods. We are asking that these concerns be resolved according to established Snohomish County, state, and federal laws.
We again strongly urge the County to reject the proposed development unless the above concerns and code violations are resolved.
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Updates
July 14, 2023
I spent the entire morning staring at those updated site maps and wondering how they expect a few quiet streets to handle all that extra traffic without everything just falling apart. People keep messaging me with their own horror stories about the congestion near 228th so I know I am not the only one losing sleep over these construction plans. I am busy drafting another stack of follow up notes for the council because silence from their office is just not an acceptable answer anymore.
21 Comments
I am very concerned about the increase in traffic on Locust Way. It's already dangerous for me to pull out of my driveway.
I feel like they weren't being honest with us when showing the layout of what the buildings were going look like and also the grounds. I am very much against it also because of the extra traffic.
To move forward with this development would be environmentally irresponsible and locally undesirable. To ignore the voice of those who actually live here and will experience the negative outcome is done out of greed and personal gain. More than the bottom line, our voices matter.
I feel you are not doing due diligence without any environmental impact studies. That hill is backfilled with construction debris and is already polluting the creek. Additionally, a project of that size will impact the run off. All of which you are aware of and unconcerned. I haven’t even begun with the traffic and effect on first responder services. And schools…. Do better. You are grossly underperforming for the citizens of Snohomish County
I know we need more housing and acknowledge development is inevitable… but this project is too big, too tall, too much. And on a compromised piece of hazardous land. Please protect myself and my neighbors by upholding the environmental laws and regulation already in place.
Let me know how I can help ! I managed a coalition some 22 years ago to defeat a sewage plant planned for the very same gravel pit. We won. And perhaps we can be of some help to your group. I have some very strong people who have expressed an interet in working with you. Please contact me !
You need to be accountable for the livability of Snohomish County
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Status: Closed — this petition is no longer accepting signatures.
SAVE BOTHELL - NOT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD!
Final supporters
Joshua Machen Project Manager
Snohomish County Planning and Development
Cc: Snohomish County Council, County Executive Dave Somers
Subject: 22-102098-000-00 SPA + all related permits to 228th Multifamily Development
We, the undersigned, reside in Snohomish County in close proximity to the above referenced project. We have
expressed our concerns, regarding the planned development, to the county with 100's of individual letters, and
with a 500-signature petition last August, 2022.
We are now joining with SaveBothell to express our concerns again.
- 11th Ave W must permanently remain a cul-de-sac in the Eastglen neighborhood, and not be connected in any manner for vehicular traffic. (Site plans indicate future potential connection that we are asking not be allowed.) Emergency vehicles can access the Apartment complex from 228th. A pedestrian/bicycle walkway should connect from the Apartment complex only and not from 228th, as shown in present site drawings; we believe that presents additional safety issues.
- Community Transit service must be in place and serving this complex before plans are made to permit such a development. Residents must have community transit service closer than over 1⁄2 mile up a steep hill.
- In addition to adequate public transit, prior to permitting, adequate measures must be in place to accommodate apartment residents when the 228th hill is often closed in winter.
- The extent of the methane contamination is unknown and unattainable to know. This hazard, that resulted in a large intrusive ash-dumping fire blanketing the surrounding neighborhoods some years ago, and more recently exploded when an employee entered a manhole, needs to be resolved prior to any permitting, so that no methane contamination is affecting the neighborhoods.
- In order to resolve the following list of issues, an Environmental Impact Statement, EIS, needs to be required of NorthPoint by Snohomish County Planning before any permittng. We are very concerned that we, the tax-paying citizens, are not being heard on many issues that we have continuously written to you about. Our concerns are that while Snohomish County code is established, that it is not being followed, at least in the discussions we have had with representatives of Planning and Council. Those issues include not granting the variance, as it is materially detrimental to the surrounding neighborhoods, that the proposed development site does meet landslide hazard definition per code, that the traffic congestion on 228th and surrounding feeder roads has not been adequately, nor correctly studied, that critical areas have been ignored against codes, and been built in, that contaminants harming salmonoid bearing streams have not been safely resolved, and that the entire property has been pastured, for over 70 years, but is being considered as forested, resulting in inadequate stormwater provisions to protect the surrounding neighborhoods. We are asking that these concerns be resolved according to established Snohomish County, state, and federal laws.
We again strongly urge the County to reject the proposed development unless the above concerns and code violations are resolved.
Updates
July 14, 2023
I spent the entire morning staring at those updated site maps and wondering how they expect a few quiet streets to handle all that extra traffic without everything just falling apart. People keep messaging me with their own horror stories about the congestion near 228th so I know I am not the only one losing sleep over these construction plans. I am busy drafting another stack of follow up notes for the council because silence from their office is just not an acceptable answer anymore.
21 Comments
The steep hill unsuitable for access for so many residences plus additional degradation of environment for salmon, wildlife.
I am very concerned about the increase in traffic on Locust Way. It's already dangerous for me to pull out of my driveway.
I feel like they weren't being honest with us when showing the layout of what the buildings were going look like and also the grounds. I am very much against it also because of the extra traffic.
To move forward with this development would be environmentally irresponsible and locally undesirable. To ignore the voice of those who actually live here and will experience the negative outcome is done out of greed and personal gain. More than the bottom line, our voices matter.
I feel you are not doing due diligence without any environmental impact studies. That hill is backfilled with construction debris and is already polluting the creek. Additionally, a project of that size will impact the run off. All of which you are aware of and unconcerned. I haven’t even begun with the traffic and effect on first responder services. And schools…. Do better. You are grossly underperforming for the citizens of Snohomish County
I know we need more housing and acknowledge development is inevitable… but this project is too big, too tall, too much. And on a compromised piece of hazardous land. Please protect myself and my neighbors by upholding the environmental laws and regulation already in place.
Let me know how I can help ! I managed a coalition some 22 years ago to defeat a sewage plant planned for the very same gravel pit. We won. And perhaps we can be of some help to your group. I have some very strong people who have expressed an interet in working with you. Please contact me !
You need to be accountable for the livability of Snohomish County
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The steep hill unsuitable for access for so many residences plus additional degradation of environment for salmon, wildlife.