An influential minority within the Moravian church has changed church doctrine incrementally for over thirty years. Through multiple resolutions addressing homosexuality that were not widely publicized or published for widespread congregational consideration; this minority group is attempting to overrule the majority opinion of the people in the Northern Province and advocate the ordination of lesbians and gays into the ministry of the Moravian church; in violation of the Holy Scriptures and tradition. We present this petition so that the leaders of our church will understand there is not a consensus on this issue and that further action taken that contradicts the Bible on this matter, would be an act of human desire and not a mandate from God. While all people are welcome and included in our community, not all people should be leaders within the church.
I have been reviewing the correspondence from church members who are concerned about the current shift in doctrine. We are preparing to submit these signatures to provincial leadership to ensure that our position on ordination remains part of the formal record. It is vital that our traditional understanding of the ministry remains at the forefront of these discussions.
January 22, 2014
The response to this petition confirms that many members remain committed to our traditional doctrines. This momentum demonstrates that a broad segment of our church seeks to preserve the teachings found in scripture.
22 Comments
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Joseph Patashinsky
12 years ago
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I understand that we are all sinners in life but Christ made it very clear about this issue. This would be the same as allowing a Minister to commit adultery every night while teaching God's word. Why not allow a murderer become a Minister who continues to commit murder while preaching God's word. Yes, Christ teaches to forgive the sinner but not forgive the sin. If this gets approved, my family will leave the Moravian Church. There are no other interpretation of God's word than what is clear in the Bible. Christ made no changes that allows the sin of immoral sexual deviance.
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Marilyn Blickensderfer
12 years ago
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I fear that if this Proposal is allowed to be instituted it would have a profound deleterious effect on the Moravian Church.
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Joseph Patashinsky
12 years ago
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I do not support any agenda in favor of gay or lesbian as leaders in the church as dictated by the book of Jesus Christ. It is a sin period and with Christ's teachings, all sins can be forgiven as long as we accept our sin is against Gods will and we need to refrain from that sin in the future.
M
Marilyn Blickensderfer
12 years ago
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I would strongly support the Synod Proposal 121613.pdf as presented by
Doug Decker. Anything less has the strong potential to adversely affect the entire denomination.
J
Jeffrey K Heitman
12 years ago
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I was raised a Baptist and joined the Moravian Denomination when I married my wife. The Bible is very clear that God calls homosexuality a sin and a perversion. I nor anyone else is in a position to argue with the one who established the institution of marriage. I am very much opposed to these resolutions.
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Valerie L. Overstreet
12 years ago
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I only disagree with a gay / lesbian pastor. I would love to be a pastor but my lifestyle does not make me the right person for "the job". We must choose our leaders wisely, scripture does not support this. Thank you.
W
William K. Gowins
12 years ago
My opinion has nothing to do with an individuals sexual preference. I do believe homosexuality to be a sin but I do not judge. I have many friends that are gay. As brothers and sisters they still deserve the dignity and respect afforded to anyone else. As for ordination, I would not attend any church with an actively homosexual leader no more than one who's pastor is straight and addicted to pornography, committing adultery, etc. As for marriage, our government is allowing such unions, however, as a church our mandate should be to follow scripture. If the government wants to allow these unions so be it. There is a means for them to have a civil union. I ask this, however, where as a society do we draw the line? I was in law enforcement for 18 years and saw all walks of life. I had this discussion with a fellow Moravian last week. When an incestuous couple comes before the church or even our government are those unions going to be allowed as well. Would we then not be discriminating against them if such unions are not allowed. Our government seems to have a problem drawing the line but we as a church should not.
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DZWC Movement
· petition starter
12 years ago
The people at Westboro Baptist are tragically mislead and hateful people. If you can ask fellow Moravians, who love the Lord to jump off a cliff because they don't agree with your view and choose to express their view by signing this petition, then perhaps you would be better suited to join the ranks of Westboro Baptist because you sir or ma'am from Madison, Wisconsin sound just like them. We will add you to our prayer list.
An influential minority within the Moravian church has changed church doctrine incrementally for over thirty years. Through multiple resolutions addressing homosexuality that were not widely publicized or published for widespread congregational consideration; this minority group is attempting to overrule the majority opinion of the people in the Northern Province and advocate the ordination of lesbians and gays into the ministry of the Moravian church; in violation of the Holy Scriptures and tradition. We present this petition so that the leaders of our church will understand there is not a consensus on this issue and that further action taken that contradicts the Bible on this matter, would be an act of human desire and not a mandate from God. While all people are welcome and included in our community, not all people should be leaders within the church.
I have been reviewing the correspondence from church members who are concerned about the current shift in doctrine. We are preparing to submit these signatures to provincial leadership to ensure that our position on ordination remains part of the formal record. It is vital that our traditional understanding of the ministry remains at the forefront of these discussions.
January 22, 2014
The response to this petition confirms that many members remain committed to our traditional doctrines. This momentum demonstrates that a broad segment of our church seeks to preserve the teachings found in scripture.
22 Comments
J
Joseph Patashinsky
12 years ago
Featured
I understand that we are all sinners in life but Christ made it very clear about this issue. This would be the same as allowing a Minister to commit adultery every night while teaching God's word. Why not allow a murderer become a Minister who continues to commit murder while preaching God's word. Yes, Christ teaches to forgive the sinner but not forgive the sin. If this gets approved, my family will leave the Moravian Church. There are no other interpretation of God's word than what is clear in the Bible. Christ made no changes that allows the sin of immoral sexual deviance.
M
Marilyn Blickensderfer
12 years ago
Featured
I fear that if this Proposal is allowed to be instituted it would have a profound deleterious effect on the Moravian Church.
J
Joseph Patashinsky
12 years ago
Featured
I do not support any agenda in favor of gay or lesbian as leaders in the church as dictated by the book of Jesus Christ. It is a sin period and with Christ's teachings, all sins can be forgiven as long as we accept our sin is against Gods will and we need to refrain from that sin in the future.
M
Marilyn Blickensderfer
12 years ago
Featured
I would strongly support the Synod Proposal 121613.pdf as presented by
Doug Decker. Anything less has the strong potential to adversely affect the entire denomination.
J
Jeffrey K Heitman
12 years ago
Featured
I was raised a Baptist and joined the Moravian Denomination when I married my wife. The Bible is very clear that God calls homosexuality a sin and a perversion. I nor anyone else is in a position to argue with the one who established the institution of marriage. I am very much opposed to these resolutions.
V
Valerie L. Overstreet
12 years ago
Featured
I only disagree with a gay / lesbian pastor. I would love to be a pastor but my lifestyle does not make me the right person for "the job". We must choose our leaders wisely, scripture does not support this. Thank you.
W
William K. Gowins
12 years ago
My opinion has nothing to do with an individuals sexual preference. I do believe homosexuality to be a sin but I do not judge. I have many friends that are gay. As brothers and sisters they still deserve the dignity and respect afforded to anyone else. As for ordination, I would not attend any church with an actively homosexual leader no more than one who's pastor is straight and addicted to pornography, committing adultery, etc. As for marriage, our government is allowing such unions, however, as a church our mandate should be to follow scripture. If the government wants to allow these unions so be it. There is a means for them to have a civil union. I ask this, however, where as a society do we draw the line? I was in law enforcement for 18 years and saw all walks of life. I had this discussion with a fellow Moravian last week. When an incestuous couple comes before the church or even our government are those unions going to be allowed as well. Would we then not be discriminating against them if such unions are not allowed. Our government seems to have a problem drawing the line but we as a church should not.
D
DZWC Movement
· petition starter
12 years ago
The people at Westboro Baptist are tragically mislead and hateful people. If you can ask fellow Moravians, who love the Lord to jump off a cliff because they don't agree with your view and choose to express their view by signing this petition, then perhaps you would be better suited to join the ranks of Westboro Baptist because you sir or ma'am from Madison, Wisconsin sound just like them. We will add you to our prayer list.
I understand that we are all sinners in life but Christ made it very clear about this issue. This would be the same as allowing a Minister to commit adultery every night while teaching God's word. Why not allow a murderer become a Minister who continues to commit murder while preaching God's word. Yes, Christ teaches to forgive the sinner but not forgive the sin. If this gets approved, my family will leave the Moravian Church. There are no other interpretation of God's word than what is clear in the Bible. Christ made no changes that allows the sin of immoral sexual deviance.