Support Roseburn-West Coates Protected Cycle Route
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Ian Farmer
10 years ago
Absolutely agree with many of the comments that cycling is the future for Edinburgh. By pushing it down the transport list in preference to business needs is short sighted. Cars create less humane areas and thus put people off going to and staying in places where it's noisy, polluted and dangerous because of the motor. Cycling is the opposite of this and encourages people to visit and stay in areas. I have seen the whole of life go by on bicycles in Amsterdam. See no reason it can't do that here.
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peter dunlop
10 years ago
I support the principle of this proposal - more below as submitted to CEC
I am a civil engineer FICE, retired. I live in the west end of Edinburgh where I walk, cycle, use my bus pass and drive my car. I take trains too. In the Netherlands where I spend nearly half my time I do the same but I cycle a great deal more.
Please study these considered comments which are a direct response to your proposals "Roseburn to Leith" but tempered by both experience and prior thought on cycling in Edinburgh
The proposal is a start but I hope that it is not thought to be a final solution
As a civil engineer I found the Atkins drawings difficult to use even on a large laptop. They are discontinuous. A scrollable "strip" of the whole route would be better
The plan must be for safe cycling on all streets/routes
This MUST be about commuting/shopping/school commuting and not leisure cycling
Copenhagen junctions are widely discredited in the cycling world, in the Netherlands and even in Copenhagen. Try the Dutch way.
Am I right in thinking that the 24 hour Red Route is a compromise for bus lanes in both directions?
This plan is going to take a lot of "policing"
In my view it will take a critical mass of cyclists before motorists are fully aware that they must be considered.
The lycra brigade are a problem for the acceptance of cycling by motorists
In the Netherlands what were footpath pavements are now shared between cyclists and pedestrians even tough the 2 paths are sometimes very narrow. Again this is a question of learning and mutual acceptance and fewer tear away lycra cyclists. Many pavements in Edinburgh are lightly trafficked, I can think of almost the whole length of the Queensferry Road.
There is a lack of confidence in Edinburgh's cycle lanes because of their discontinuities. In the Netherlands they are marked across junctions.
The Netherlands may be flat but flatness allows a lot of wind. Most new traditional looking Dutch bikes now have 3 gears and the low i
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Daniel Pacey
10 years ago
Do it
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Andrew McLaughlin
10 years ago
Take the brave decision. We can't change our cultural car-dependency by making the alternatives longer, slower or harder.
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Benedict Kavanagh
10 years ago
Cycling infrastructure is the future. We have to prioritize it. If there are local disturbances that persist they can be addressed but in the initial implementation we must prioritize modern infrastructure.
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David Harrington
10 years ago
It is very important for cyclists in Edinburgh that this route goes ahead more or less as planned as it is a step change in the provision for cyclists in the city - if this goes ahead and is seen to be a success (personally I would probably use it every day) then it validates the council strategy and gives reasons to do similar things elsewhere - there are only a couple of areas in the overall route that I would consider changing, and neither of them are in the contentious area. The opposition to this part of the route is based on misinformation. While some cyclists might be OK with the current route in this area, it is far from ideal, offering lots of potential for wheels to be trapped in the tram line, increased conflict with pedestrians and is also circuitous. The plans also offer better crossing facilities for pedestrians.
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Oliver Chapman
10 years ago
I support this!
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Al Crerar
10 years ago
If we are serious about getting more people on bikes and keeping them safer, then we need better, more direct routes like this.
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Alastair Murray
10 years ago
Having often attempted to weave my way through Roseburn (and often just I've just dismounted at that part of my journey – I am not the bravest of cyclists), I know this would be of great value to people who make similar journeys. And, well, actually having evidence is good too!
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Anonymous
10 years ago
Build it now!
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Keith Millar
10 years ago
We need more protected cycle lanes to encourage even more people out of their cars.
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Aileen Brand
10 years ago
Fully support this.
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Alex Cole-Hamilton
10 years ago
I support the introduction of an East West cycle route, I'm also keen to work with campaigners and local businesses to mitigate the impact on local shops in terms of deliveries.
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Anonymous
10 years ago
I think this is an important and welcome development for active travel in Edinburgh. We need safe cycling space go encourage more people to take up cycling and protect those people that do.
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Anonymous
10 years ago
It really is time that more road space was given over to the less polluting methods of transport to encourage people out of their cars.
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Bruce
10 years ago
More protected cycle lanes please.
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Colin
10 years ago
This will help to make Edinburgh a much better place for everyone.
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Davie Park
10 years ago
I'm an ex-resident of Roseburn, a cyclist and motorist. I firmly believe that the proposed changes will bring benefits to those living in Roseburn, to those with shops, and also to traffic passing through.
Absolutely agree with many of the comments that cycling is the future for Edinburgh. By pushing it down the transport list in preference to business needs is short sighted. Cars create less humane areas and thus put people off going to and staying in places where it's noisy, polluted and dangerous because of the motor. Cycling is the opposite of this and encourages people to visit and stay in areas. I have seen the whole of life go by on bicycles in Amsterdam. See no reason it can't do that here.
I support the principle of this proposal - more below as submitted to CEC I am a civil engineer FICE, retired. I live in the west end of Edinburgh where I walk, cycle, use my bus pass and drive my car. I take trains too. In the Netherlands where I spend nearly half my time I do the same but I cycle a great deal more. Please study these considered comments which are a direct response to your proposals "Roseburn to Leith" but tempered by both experience and prior thought on cycling in Edinburgh The proposal is a start but I hope that it is not thought to be a final solution As a civil engineer I found the Atkins drawings difficult to use even on a large laptop. They are discontinuous. A scrollable "strip" of the whole route would be better The plan must be for safe cycling on all streets/routes This MUST be about commuting/shopping/school commuting and not leisure cycling Copenhagen junctions are widely discredited in the cycling world, in the Netherlands and even in Copenhagen. Try the Dutch way. Am I right in thinking that the 24 hour Red Route is a compromise for bus lanes in both directions? This plan is going to take a lot of "policing" In my view it will take a critical mass of cyclists before motorists are fully aware that they must be considered. The lycra brigade are a problem for the acceptance of cycling by motorists In the Netherlands what were footpath pavements are now shared between cyclists and pedestrians even tough the 2 paths are sometimes very narrow. Again this is a question of learning and mutual acceptance and fewer tear away lycra cyclists. Many pavements in Edinburgh are lightly trafficked, I can think of almost the whole length of the Queensferry Road. There is a lack of confidence in Edinburgh's cycle lanes because of their discontinuities. In the Netherlands they are marked across junctions. The Netherlands may be flat but flatness allows a lot of wind. Most new traditional looking Dutch bikes now have 3 gears and the low i
Do it
Take the brave decision. We can't change our cultural car-dependency by making the alternatives longer, slower or harder.
Cycling infrastructure is the future. We have to prioritize it. If there are local disturbances that persist they can be addressed but in the initial implementation we must prioritize modern infrastructure.
It is very important for cyclists in Edinburgh that this route goes ahead more or less as planned as it is a step change in the provision for cyclists in the city - if this goes ahead and is seen to be a success (personally I would probably use it every day) then it validates the council strategy and gives reasons to do similar things elsewhere - there are only a couple of areas in the overall route that I would consider changing, and neither of them are in the contentious area. The opposition to this part of the route is based on misinformation. While some cyclists might be OK with the current route in this area, it is far from ideal, offering lots of potential for wheels to be trapped in the tram line, increased conflict with pedestrians and is also circuitous. The plans also offer better crossing facilities for pedestrians.
I support this!
If we are serious about getting more people on bikes and keeping them safer, then we need better, more direct routes like this.
Having often attempted to weave my way through Roseburn (and often just I've just dismounted at that part of my journey – I am not the bravest of cyclists), I know this would be of great value to people who make similar journeys. And, well, actually having evidence is good too!
Build it now!
We need more protected cycle lanes to encourage even more people out of their cars.
Fully support this.
I support the introduction of an East West cycle route, I'm also keen to work with campaigners and local businesses to mitigate the impact on local shops in terms of deliveries.
I think this is an important and welcome development for active travel in Edinburgh. We need safe cycling space go encourage more people to take up cycling and protect those people that do.
It really is time that more road space was given over to the less polluting methods of transport to encourage people out of their cars.
More protected cycle lanes please.
This will help to make Edinburgh a much better place for everyone.
I'm an ex-resident of Roseburn, a cyclist and motorist. I firmly believe that the proposed changes will bring benefits to those living in Roseburn, to those with shops, and also to traffic passing through.
I support this plan
Absurd idea