They are entitled to life within a sustainable evolved ecosystem, along with their predators and their parasites.
When the ecosystem is restored then we need not interfere.
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Ian Young
12 years ago
Is your comment a general one based on the premise that all carnivores should become vegetarians?
Or is it specific to the destruction of the UK landscape by overpopulation of deer and extirpation of their natural predators?
Perhaps you could back up your unequivocal assertion with some scientifically substantiated evidence?
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Carol Demirtas
12 years ago
please relesse the deer, they deserve life as we do!
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Mary Jenner
12 years ago
completely unnecessary to kill
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Ian Young
12 years ago
Relocation requires 'vacant' habitat with sufficient 'excess resources'. As all woodland in the UK currently has unsustainably high deer populations, where would you suggest?
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Ian Young
12 years ago
It is sickening that because of idiots our forests and virtually all other habitats have been decimated. It is sickening that all the naturally occurring apex predators, such as the wolf, and landscape engineering species, such as beaver, have been extirpated. But we are now left with what we've got, and what we've got is dysfunctional. Deer are forest-dwellers whose populations should be kept in check by predation. When predated to the appropriate numbers, a balance is achieved in which, with reduced browsing, forests are able to regenerate. This is not the case now. We have almost no regeneration whatsoever because of the explosion of numbers of deer due to lack of predators. It is absolutely essential that deer numbers are reduced, and shooting them is by far the most humane method. I will accept that many of the genuine but ignorant people who oppose this action might be vegetarians and would never sanction the death of an animal for human food, but I suspect that many happily eat beef. So I will ask, how does the life of one ungulate weigh greater than that of another? This is arbitrary morality at best. Be in no doubt, I am an animal lover. I am soft and sentimental. I still cry when I watch 'Bambi'. But the natural world, when it functions properly, is a horrorfest of trophic webs which determine species population numbers.And when it becomes dysfunctional due to human stupidity, the answer is not maintain a stance of stupidity, but to act positively to restore functionality, and to save the ecosystem; to save ALL the animal AND plant species. This is reality. It is visceral. Those who actually make the decisions based on science (established, peer-reviewed, universally accepted science) are the true animal-lovers. It's one hell of a tough call, but they are acting for the good of all species. Those who let their hearts rule their heads in this most important of fields, have no place in conservation.
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Barbara Coles
12 years ago
This seems an extreme measure - if their habitat was enclosed surely is can be un-enclosed? Did no-one think about this at the time the fences were erected?
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Stephanie Kerr
12 years ago
Every step should be taken to preserve life. Surely they could be relocated to nearby forest:lakeside locations with a little more effort as they will still need shot and transported. Therefore as already agreed a tranquilliser and transport to one of these areas seems just as feasible. The risk of them running to undergrowth, d
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paul tavernor
12 years ago
These are red deer! Hope they are let out.
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ashley butterworth
12 years ago
as if this even needs to be petitioned, this is a disgrace
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Sean Greenop
12 years ago
how can you complain about the cost of trangillizing them, how much is the new fence costing?
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Luis Juarez
12 years ago
Even a light in a dark space it a glow of hope
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Barb Haloulos
12 years ago
My God - why can't you just relocate them or let them live their lives as The Lord intended them to be? Does mankind (ha - now that's a word that needs to be changed man 'kind', have to kill every animal that gets in their way?
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James Fairweather
12 years ago
Utterly Disgraceful
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agnes harding
12 years ago
please think carefully your course of action,you are taking the easy option in my opinion,please dart them and rehome them.
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Marcie Newman-Perskin
12 years ago
This is Unconscionable Find another way w/ a NO Kill Option
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Audrey Muir
12 years ago
Why is the answer always to cull. Show some humanity please.
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Carrie Lundberg
12 years ago
Return them to their natural home in the wild!! It is not hard to do and it is the RIGHT thing!!
They are entitled to life within a sustainable evolved ecosystem, along with their predators and their parasites. When the ecosystem is restored then we need not interfere.
Is your comment a general one based on the premise that all carnivores should become vegetarians? Or is it specific to the destruction of the UK landscape by overpopulation of deer and extirpation of their natural predators? Perhaps you could back up your unequivocal assertion with some scientifically substantiated evidence?
please relesse the deer, they deserve life as we do!
completely unnecessary to kill
Relocation requires 'vacant' habitat with sufficient 'excess resources'. As all woodland in the UK currently has unsustainably high deer populations, where would you suggest?
It is sickening that because of idiots our forests and virtually all other habitats have been decimated. It is sickening that all the naturally occurring apex predators, such as the wolf, and landscape engineering species, such as beaver, have been extirpated. But we are now left with what we've got, and what we've got is dysfunctional. Deer are forest-dwellers whose populations should be kept in check by predation. When predated to the appropriate numbers, a balance is achieved in which, with reduced browsing, forests are able to regenerate. This is not the case now. We have almost no regeneration whatsoever because of the explosion of numbers of deer due to lack of predators. It is absolutely essential that deer numbers are reduced, and shooting them is by far the most humane method. I will accept that many of the genuine but ignorant people who oppose this action might be vegetarians and would never sanction the death of an animal for human food, but I suspect that many happily eat beef. So I will ask, how does the life of one ungulate weigh greater than that of another? This is arbitrary morality at best. Be in no doubt, I am an animal lover. I am soft and sentimental. I still cry when I watch 'Bambi'. But the natural world, when it functions properly, is a horrorfest of trophic webs which determine species population numbers.And when it becomes dysfunctional due to human stupidity, the answer is not maintain a stance of stupidity, but to act positively to restore functionality, and to save the ecosystem; to save ALL the animal AND plant species. This is reality. It is visceral. Those who actually make the decisions based on science (established, peer-reviewed, universally accepted science) are the true animal-lovers. It's one hell of a tough call, but they are acting for the good of all species. Those who let their hearts rule their heads in this most important of fields, have no place in conservation.
This seems an extreme measure - if their habitat was enclosed surely is can be un-enclosed? Did no-one think about this at the time the fences were erected?
Every step should be taken to preserve life. Surely they could be relocated to nearby forest:lakeside locations with a little more effort as they will still need shot and transported. Therefore as already agreed a tranquilliser and transport to one of these areas seems just as feasible. The risk of them running to undergrowth, d
These are red deer! Hope they are let out.
as if this even needs to be petitioned, this is a disgrace
how can you complain about the cost of trangillizing them, how much is the new fence costing?
Even a light in a dark space it a glow of hope
My God - why can't you just relocate them or let them live their lives as The Lord intended them to be? Does mankind (ha - now that's a word that needs to be changed man 'kind', have to kill every animal that gets in their way?
Utterly Disgraceful
please think carefully your course of action,you are taking the easy option in my opinion,please dart them and rehome them.
This is Unconscionable Find another way w/ a NO Kill Option
Why is the answer always to cull. Show some humanity please.
Return them to their natural home in the wild!! It is not hard to do and it is the RIGHT thing!!
Move the deer don't just kill them!
PRESERVE THE PRECIOUS LIFE AND BEAUTY,