Building a 4 story unit is inconsistent with the present landscape. Density of this kind will make Providence Rd even more of a traffic bottleneck.
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Paula Hansbrough
7 years ago
Traffic is a major concern.
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Lynne Booth
7 years ago
This area cannot handle the additional traffic this project would create.
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Penny Perryman
7 years ago
I am excited to have a senior center nearby for my mom and maybe my mother-in-law. I very much welcome our elderly family to our neighborhood! Is there a reason why seniors shouldn't live in the area? We can simply walk over and visit! Perfect!
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Sheryl Johnson
7 years ago
This density and the additional traffic is unacceptable on this section of Providence Rd. Preserve R-3 zoning!
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Anne Wood
7 years ago
Deny rezoning petition
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Anonymous
7 years ago
Deny Rezoning Petition.
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Chuck Haster
7 years ago
I live nearby and agree with your assessment, Philip. The developer seems to be more than reasonable and the over-reaction by Dennis, Doyle, and others is going to end up putting us in a worse spot than we might otherwise be in if we just make an effort to work with the developer. I hate the traffic just as much as anyone, but development progress is inevitable and we can’t force people not to sell their homes. I’d rather take our chances with this group than see what awful plan the next developer will have who might not be at all reasonable.
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Philip Stafford
7 years ago
Doyle George, thank you and I would be happy to discuss. Just to be clear I am an adjacent property owner, I commute Uptown on the bus (and thus have to physically cross this street every day during rush hour), so I am among the most affected. I understand your points but they go far beyond the scope of this rezoning request. To refocus back to the matter at hand, if you have a viable strategy to prevent this property from being developed I would be interested in hearing that. My position rests on the belief this land will be developed so I find the focus on the preexisting traffic problem that Providence Road has long had irrelevant to the rezoning request.
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K Doyle George
7 years ago
Philip & Cory-The intention of this petition is to elicit comments from those who are most affected by this proposed development. Comments that are pro and con are perfectly fine. The issues are not that the property owners in Oxford Acres do not have the right to band together and sell their properties to a developer, or that the 20 acres will never be redeveloped for a use other than single-family homes on large lots. The concern is this is just one of many projects proposed for both Providence and Park Roads that are not examined based on a comprehensive zoning plan for Charlotte. The traffic impacts are cumulative. Providence Road is not designed to handle this volume of traffic. There is no assurance that a traffic light will be approved by NCDOT and CDOT for the entrance to this development which CDOT indicates will generate 1,220 vehicle trips/day over 670 vehicle trips if 61 single family replaced the existing 8 residences. It is doubtful with the topography that 61 single-family homes could be constructed. On the issue of density, if a density of 20 dwelling units/acre is approved future rezonings will cite this rezoning to justify similar densities resulting in an area that will be more densely developed, again with no comprehensive zoning plan to serve as a development guide. The test under the North Carolina statutes is whether a proposed density is consistent with densities that have been previously approved. With respect to the location and height of the 200 unit building, no site plan that has been submitted to the planning department shows its location relative to Providence Road. That is to be determined, but based on the existing topography, you could begin at a height of 605 feet and add 4 stories with a maximum height for the building of 55 feet. The building would probably be a prominent building from the standpoint of someone on Providence Road. Finally, my profession is not relevant but I have been a commercial real estate attorney in Char
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Jennifer Miloy
7 years ago
Why is everyone so angry? The homeowners got together to sell their land. It is going to be sold, end of story. People who have not attended the community meetings should not sign any petition. The current developer has gone above and beyond to be reasonable. I live adjacent to the property – I will see the change every day from my windows and I SUPPORT the development. These developers are great to work with (have you tried talking with them one on one?) – they have increased their setback, offered vegetation buffers, they are working with NCDOT and CDOT, etc. Maybe if you do not like the traffic on Providence it is time for you to ride the bus or at the least ask our Council to increase bus service – did you know the last Express bus in the morning from the Arboretum leaves at 7:48 a.m? Why not later to get people off the roads? Please look for solutions. I believe blocking this is opening us to a bunch of houses slammed into 20 acres. I’ll take a senior center any day!
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Jennifer Miloy
7 years ago
From Saddlebrook Court, 28226. Thank you for your reasonable post Cory - The sun will rise tomorrow. Let's keep working together - the developers seem very open to suggestions. I've only read one post on Nextdoor, but the facts are not all there or wrong and I dread the thought of people signing this who have not been informed first hand. Thanks (again, i'm not from Matthews - i don't know how that was picked up). Jennifer
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Patricia G Elrod
7 years ago
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As a resident of 1200 Old Farm Road, Charlotte,NC 28226 I see daily the traffic and Uturns into our street.
It is more and more difficult to enter Providence Road safely.
This plan does not fit the current population of our neighborhood.
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Anonymous
7 years ago
Residents in Old Farm are unable to make left hand turns due to traffic and speed on Providence Rd. Brockton Lane residents regularly encounter uturns from Folger Lane in Lansdowne. With the blind curb and speed there have been multiple wrecks on this section of Providence. Adding additional residential units further down on Providence will inevitably cause more wrecks in a highly congested area.
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Jennifer Miloy
7 years ago
Well, i'm not from Matthews but Saddlebrook Court, next to the proposed development. Not sure how it added Matthews!
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Philip Stafford
7 years ago
Cory Benulis, thank you for being a voice of reason. I too find this petition and objection to the proposed development an absurd overreaction. I too would love something different there, like a wooded city park, and I too, as a rational adult, know good and well that is not going to happen.
The first CRITICAL point all of need to understand is the current owners of this land got together and found a possible buyer, not the other way around. They have a legal right to sell their property and I don’t think a single one of us wants to live in a land where property owners do not have that right. But the result is this means the property WILL BE DEVELOPED whether we like it or not, even if we defeat this rezoning request. (Note this property CAN be developed as it is currently zoned, with a significant increase in the number of properties and density.)
I do not believe most of the points made in the petition will have a real impact on my life. Some of them — such as Charlotte Water not having sufficient information to recommend whether additional sewer capacity will be required — are irrelevant to me. I am certain the sewer capacity needs will be managed through proper process without the need that I/we intervene.
Most of the comments below so far bring up traffic. I agree Providence Road has a congestion problem. We all live that daily and it is not created by this (possible) project — and it will not be solved by blocking the project. I find it unlikely it will be as noticeably worsened by this as some are suggesting. I suspect whatever comes of this property will most likely have a more or less equivalent impact.
Proffitt Dixon has reached out to us all well in advance, signaled willingness to work with us (or even withdraw from the project, in which case we should be aware another project will almost certainly take its place).
I very strongly believe the best approach for all of us to protect our own interests as homeowners is to meet
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Donna Casey
7 years ago
Too much traffic as it is right now.
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Cory Benulis
7 years ago
*puts on flame suit*
To be clear, I DO NOT support this density, but everyone on here, and especially on Nextdoor, sounds like Chicken Little. THE SKY IS FALLING! Everyone acts like they are a developer, civil engineer, lawyer, and contractor at the same time. It’s almost as funny as the arguments about coyotes and deer. Vomiting misinformation and sensationalizing all over social media only undermines our credibility as we fight this.
Raymond- Are you a civil engineer, what do you know about hardscape or storm water management?
Doyle – I guess you have not looked at the plan online or attended any of the meetings? The building was not shown up against the road like at Fairview???
That being said…
Is everyone here really that naïve that they think we are going to stop any/all development from happening on that site? Lets be real and look at the facts:
-It’s a huge piece of land in a part of town where people want to live.
-It’s NOT the best use of the land in my opinion, but it is not the worst.
-The city wants more affordable housing. Do you want the Charlotte Housing Authority to throw a bunch of apartments there like what is at Old Providence and Providence? CLT has $50 million in bonds to spend.
-If the owners want to sell, we cant stop them.
-If you went to the meeting a few weeks ago, Councilman Driggs said to take a list of concerns and requests to the developer and see what concessions we can get. Is anyone heading this up?
-Other petitions like this have had the number of units reduced, buildings shortened, include additional greenspace, infrastructure improvements, move buildings. What are we asking for??
Now I will be the devil’s advocate:
-We unite, chain ourselves to the doors of city hall, sing kumbaya in a drum circle, and rezoning is denied or withdrawn.
-We celebrate like it’s St Patrick’s day in Dublin.
-The owners sell to someone else who develops at current zoning (R-3).
-In the dark of night, they cut down every tree
Signed and supporting.
Building a 4 story unit is inconsistent with the present landscape. Density of this kind will make Providence Rd even more of a traffic bottleneck.
Traffic is a major concern.
This area cannot handle the additional traffic this project would create.
I am excited to have a senior center nearby for my mom and maybe my mother-in-law. I very much welcome our elderly family to our neighborhood! Is there a reason why seniors shouldn't live in the area? We can simply walk over and visit! Perfect!
This density and the additional traffic is unacceptable on this section of Providence Rd. Preserve R-3 zoning!
Deny rezoning petition
Deny Rezoning Petition.
I live nearby and agree with your assessment, Philip. The developer seems to be more than reasonable and the over-reaction by Dennis, Doyle, and others is going to end up putting us in a worse spot than we might otherwise be in if we just make an effort to work with the developer. I hate the traffic just as much as anyone, but development progress is inevitable and we can’t force people not to sell their homes. I’d rather take our chances with this group than see what awful plan the next developer will have who might not be at all reasonable.
Doyle George, thank you and I would be happy to discuss. Just to be clear I am an adjacent property owner, I commute Uptown on the bus (and thus have to physically cross this street every day during rush hour), so I am among the most affected. I understand your points but they go far beyond the scope of this rezoning request. To refocus back to the matter at hand, if you have a viable strategy to prevent this property from being developed I would be interested in hearing that. My position rests on the belief this land will be developed so I find the focus on the preexisting traffic problem that Providence Road has long had irrelevant to the rezoning request.
Philip & Cory-The intention of this petition is to elicit comments from those who are most affected by this proposed development. Comments that are pro and con are perfectly fine. The issues are not that the property owners in Oxford Acres do not have the right to band together and sell their properties to a developer, or that the 20 acres will never be redeveloped for a use other than single-family homes on large lots. The concern is this is just one of many projects proposed for both Providence and Park Roads that are not examined based on a comprehensive zoning plan for Charlotte. The traffic impacts are cumulative. Providence Road is not designed to handle this volume of traffic. There is no assurance that a traffic light will be approved by NCDOT and CDOT for the entrance to this development which CDOT indicates will generate 1,220 vehicle trips/day over 670 vehicle trips if 61 single family replaced the existing 8 residences. It is doubtful with the topography that 61 single-family homes could be constructed. On the issue of density, if a density of 20 dwelling units/acre is approved future rezonings will cite this rezoning to justify similar densities resulting in an area that will be more densely developed, again with no comprehensive zoning plan to serve as a development guide. The test under the North Carolina statutes is whether a proposed density is consistent with densities that have been previously approved. With respect to the location and height of the 200 unit building, no site plan that has been submitted to the planning department shows its location relative to Providence Road. That is to be determined, but based on the existing topography, you could begin at a height of 605 feet and add 4 stories with a maximum height for the building of 55 feet. The building would probably be a prominent building from the standpoint of someone on Providence Road. Finally, my profession is not relevant but I have been a commercial real estate attorney in Char
Why is everyone so angry? The homeowners got together to sell their land. It is going to be sold, end of story. People who have not attended the community meetings should not sign any petition. The current developer has gone above and beyond to be reasonable. I live adjacent to the property – I will see the change every day from my windows and I SUPPORT the development. These developers are great to work with (have you tried talking with them one on one?) – they have increased their setback, offered vegetation buffers, they are working with NCDOT and CDOT, etc. Maybe if you do not like the traffic on Providence it is time for you to ride the bus or at the least ask our Council to increase bus service – did you know the last Express bus in the morning from the Arboretum leaves at 7:48 a.m? Why not later to get people off the roads? Please look for solutions. I believe blocking this is opening us to a bunch of houses slammed into 20 acres. I’ll take a senior center any day!
From Saddlebrook Court, 28226. Thank you for your reasonable post Cory - The sun will rise tomorrow. Let's keep working together - the developers seem very open to suggestions. I've only read one post on Nextdoor, but the facts are not all there or wrong and I dread the thought of people signing this who have not been informed first hand. Thanks (again, i'm not from Matthews - i don't know how that was picked up). Jennifer
As a resident of 1200 Old Farm Road, Charlotte,NC 28226 I see daily the traffic and Uturns into our street. It is more and more difficult to enter Providence Road safely. This plan does not fit the current population of our neighborhood.
Residents in Old Farm are unable to make left hand turns due to traffic and speed on Providence Rd. Brockton Lane residents regularly encounter uturns from Folger Lane in Lansdowne. With the blind curb and speed there have been multiple wrecks on this section of Providence. Adding additional residential units further down on Providence will inevitably cause more wrecks in a highly congested area.
Well, i'm not from Matthews but Saddlebrook Court, next to the proposed development. Not sure how it added Matthews!
Cory Benulis, thank you for being a voice of reason. I too find this petition and objection to the proposed development an absurd overreaction. I too would love something different there, like a wooded city park, and I too, as a rational adult, know good and well that is not going to happen. The first CRITICAL point all of need to understand is the current owners of this land got together and found a possible buyer, not the other way around. They have a legal right to sell their property and I don’t think a single one of us wants to live in a land where property owners do not have that right. But the result is this means the property WILL BE DEVELOPED whether we like it or not, even if we defeat this rezoning request. (Note this property CAN be developed as it is currently zoned, with a significant increase in the number of properties and density.) I do not believe most of the points made in the petition will have a real impact on my life. Some of them — such as Charlotte Water not having sufficient information to recommend whether additional sewer capacity will be required — are irrelevant to me. I am certain the sewer capacity needs will be managed through proper process without the need that I/we intervene. Most of the comments below so far bring up traffic. I agree Providence Road has a congestion problem. We all live that daily and it is not created by this (possible) project — and it will not be solved by blocking the project. I find it unlikely it will be as noticeably worsened by this as some are suggesting. I suspect whatever comes of this property will most likely have a more or less equivalent impact. Proffitt Dixon has reached out to us all well in advance, signaled willingness to work with us (or even withdraw from the project, in which case we should be aware another project will almost certainly take its place). I very strongly believe the best approach for all of us to protect our own interests as homeowners is to meet
Too much traffic as it is right now.
*puts on flame suit* To be clear, I DO NOT support this density, but everyone on here, and especially on Nextdoor, sounds like Chicken Little. THE SKY IS FALLING! Everyone acts like they are a developer, civil engineer, lawyer, and contractor at the same time. It’s almost as funny as the arguments about coyotes and deer. Vomiting misinformation and sensationalizing all over social media only undermines our credibility as we fight this. Raymond- Are you a civil engineer, what do you know about hardscape or storm water management? Doyle – I guess you have not looked at the plan online or attended any of the meetings? The building was not shown up against the road like at Fairview??? That being said… Is everyone here really that naïve that they think we are going to stop any/all development from happening on that site? Lets be real and look at the facts: -It’s a huge piece of land in a part of town where people want to live. -It’s NOT the best use of the land in my opinion, but it is not the worst. -The city wants more affordable housing. Do you want the Charlotte Housing Authority to throw a bunch of apartments there like what is at Old Providence and Providence? CLT has $50 million in bonds to spend. -If the owners want to sell, we cant stop them. -If you went to the meeting a few weeks ago, Councilman Driggs said to take a list of concerns and requests to the developer and see what concessions we can get. Is anyone heading this up? -Other petitions like this have had the number of units reduced, buildings shortened, include additional greenspace, infrastructure improvements, move buildings. What are we asking for?? Now I will be the devil’s advocate: -We unite, chain ourselves to the doors of city hall, sing kumbaya in a drum circle, and rezoning is denied or withdrawn. -We celebrate like it’s St Patrick’s day in Dublin. -The owners sell to someone else who develops at current zoning (R-3). -In the dark of night, they cut down every tree
Please do not make Providence Road more crowded.