Petition to establish collective bargaining agreements between the VMA and Cory Weeds /Cellar Jazz Society / Coastal Jazz and Blues Society/ Pat's Pub
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Al Guraliuk
10 years ago
Hmm. There are VMA minimum tariffs in place already 9. Casual Engagements (1) Licensed Establishments $90 for 4 hrs. or even 10. Concert Engagements (3) Popular and Jazz 2 1/2 hrs $148.10 for sideman/$222.16. I’m I missing something? ( other than no matter what scale is there are musicians who will work for less and venues happy to pay them less)
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Blaine Tringham
10 years ago
No brainier.
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Mike Brown
10 years ago
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What if the Vancouver International Jazz Festival was a union gig with guaranteed scale and a pension? This is what I'm excited about!
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Sharman King
10 years ago
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In the past similar initiatives have run into difficulty because the people involved haven't presented a common, united front. I've written Chris with a long letter on some of the history but the success of Chris' proposal depends on each of us upholding the worth of our colleagues. Nothing more and nothing less. It's simple if we all agree to support each other. We are as important to these venues as the LCB or Sysco accounts - absent these suppliers the venues will have nothing to sell. Simple, really if we all get behind the initiative.
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Nick Apivor
10 years ago
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It's long overdue for PROFESSIONAL musicians to be treated as professionals by employers and live music establishments.
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Anita Eccleston
10 years ago
Thanks Chris! Let's get the conversation started.
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Jared Burrows
10 years ago
I support this in principle.
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Rod Murray
10 years ago
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I think something can easily be worked out. Our local has shown a willingness to be flexible with smaller venues in the past. Thank you for initiating this dialogue, Chris!
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Arnt
10 years ago
I am generally in favour of this...however, some details would need to be ironed out; for example, would these venues only be able to hire union musicians? Would people lose work over this? An in-person round-table discussion is needed...
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gary mussatto
10 years ago
I am in support of this petition.
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Jack Stafford
10 years ago
I believe Mr. Startup has made some very important points. I am behind this
100%.
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Michael Creber
10 years ago
Thanks Chris for doing this!
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Tom Keenlyside
10 years ago
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Thanks, Chris...it's high time this happened. Let's get our pension going for the jazz gigs we all love to play.
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Julia Nolan
10 years ago
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Equality - something we all have to be proactive in achieving. Jazz musicians at jazz-type venues are no less deserving of pension contributions than anyone else in the performance field. Chris is right though - we all have to do our part. Thanks for doing this Chris - Julia
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Bill Sample
10 years ago
It would be great to get pension and gst on these gigs.
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Laurence Mollerup
10 years ago
sounds like a good idea
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Cory Weeds
10 years ago
Perhaps the question that should be asked is IF these gigs at these venues are paying scale (which they are....above scale actually) then why are the musicians not wishing to put it through them through the union? Interesting.
Hmm. There are VMA minimum tariffs in place already 9. Casual Engagements (1) Licensed Establishments $90 for 4 hrs. or even 10. Concert Engagements (3) Popular and Jazz 2 1/2 hrs $148.10 for sideman/$222.16. I’m I missing something? ( other than no matter what scale is there are musicians who will work for less and venues happy to pay them less)
No brainier.
What if the Vancouver International Jazz Festival was a union gig with guaranteed scale and a pension? This is what I'm excited about!
In the past similar initiatives have run into difficulty because the people involved haven't presented a common, united front. I've written Chris with a long letter on some of the history but the success of Chris' proposal depends on each of us upholding the worth of our colleagues. Nothing more and nothing less. It's simple if we all agree to support each other. We are as important to these venues as the LCB or Sysco accounts - absent these suppliers the venues will have nothing to sell. Simple, really if we all get behind the initiative.
It's long overdue for PROFESSIONAL musicians to be treated as professionals by employers and live music establishments.
Thanks Chris! Let's get the conversation started.
I support this in principle.
I think something can easily be worked out. Our local has shown a willingness to be flexible with smaller venues in the past. Thank you for initiating this dialogue, Chris!
I am generally in favour of this...however, some details would need to be ironed out; for example, would these venues only be able to hire union musicians? Would people lose work over this? An in-person round-table discussion is needed...
I am in support of this petition.
I believe Mr. Startup has made some very important points. I am behind this 100%.
Thanks Chris for doing this!
Thanks, Chris...it's high time this happened. Let's get our pension going for the jazz gigs we all love to play.
Equality - something we all have to be proactive in achieving. Jazz musicians at jazz-type venues are no less deserving of pension contributions than anyone else in the performance field. Chris is right though - we all have to do our part. Thanks for doing this Chris - Julia
It would be great to get pension and gst on these gigs.
sounds like a good idea
Perhaps the question that should be asked is IF these gigs at these venues are paying scale (which they are....above scale actually) then why are the musicians not wishing to put it through them through the union? Interesting.
Thank you Chris !