No Generative AI At Berklee- Disband Bots, Beats and Bytes
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Advait Dave
2 months ago
I love berklee, love the vibe and the people to come out from there, and have dreamed of going to berklee myself. F*** AI
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Ash Le
2 months ago
It's my dream to go to Berklee, but if this course stays imma just find somewhere else to go
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Andrew Resnick
2 months ago
Shameful.
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Emillio Daniel
2 months ago
Absolutely not. Musicians are artist, generative A.I. steals. Simple.
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Oliver
2 months ago
absolutely not bruh
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David Hollenbeck
2 months ago
the use of gen ai to "make" music is one of if not the most craven and unsouled applications of the technology
suno is blatant copyright theft also lol
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Jack Gardner
2 months ago
I am a musician, a writer, and a human. This kind of AI is anathema to all three. Berklee was a place where many of my favorite musicians taught or attended, where the name was synonymous with excellence, and while my path didn't take me there, a place that I loved visiting and attending the summer camps. Embracing generative AI has shattered that reputation for me all at once - and for the students I teach as well. I am also a volunteer member of PauseAI US, an AI safety org, and I have made many arguments in my work for the humanity in music. How musicians won't accept it. It's time to listen to your student body, and the broader public at large: no generative AI in your music school.
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Terran Bricklin
2 months ago
AI music is a theft of our human capacity for creativity and I yearn for a day where we all realize that and give up on it. Berklee teaches musicians, not venture capitalists, and it needs to stay that way.
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Andy Molholt
2 months ago
Absolutely 0, I mean ZERO professional musicians I work with or am friends with want to use generative AI to create music. The tech bros can try all they want––they WILL fail. Higher learning institutions need to be teaching songwriters, producers & instrumentalists to PROTECT themselves against AI, not to use it in their work. It is quite frankly embarrassing as hell that Berklee is ready to die on this hill. Just take a look at another (formerly) great institution here in Philadelphia, World Cafe Live, who went ALL IN on the Tech Bro™ Metaverse BS, and see what that did for them. Check in and see how they are doing lol. It makes me sad and ashamed that folks in power allowed these courses to be offered to students at all. They should be ashamed.
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Milo Darlington
2 months ago
AI in music is a demonstrably terrible idea! and then to try to INCORPORATE IT into CURRICULUM?? what the hell are we paying all this money for anyway?
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Derrick Obara
2 months ago
Suno clearly is a tool to rob students of their ability, rather than enhance it, to make them reliant, for a fee. Teach kids to create, not plagiarize, steal, and regurgitate.
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Derek Baker
2 months ago
Teaching students to use AI in songwriting is not forward thinking. It is shortsighted. Songwriting is not a frictionless process - by removing the friction, students will become reliant on the AI to write their songs, which sets them up for failure and prevents them from improving. As a business model, AI only takes more money out of the hands of artists, which will only make the music suffer. For millennia music has been synonymous with culture, but with AI, there will be no progression of culture, we will recirculate the same culture forever as innovation is drowned out and everything is homogenized. All of our lives will be worse for it. AI isn't inevitable - we are free to stop whenever. Stopping now would be great.
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Zachary
2 months ago
AI should not be part of any music education
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Benjamin
2 months ago
AI slop
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Aabir Mazumdar
2 months ago
Doctor of Musical Arts in Sonic Arts Composition here. Do not allow anyone to conflate products like Suno AI with the creative potential of AI technology. The fact that key figures in the Berklee administration have past or present links with the Suno AI corporation should set off alarm bells. Not to mention, Tech bro Suno AI CEO Mikey Shulman, who considers ethical artist and art industry practices as inconvenient, is using all of your user data and input to wipe out yours and others' future generations of artist opportunities.
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Matthew Zelden
2 months ago
Shameful. So much personal conflict of interest going on. Talk about ruining a reputation
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Anonymous
2 months ago
"Teaching" students to simultaneously stunt their creativity and ignore the plagiarism inherent in AI music services isn't going to end well...
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Alexi Karuna
2 months ago
This is not the way. Music, writing songs, playing an instrument are salvos for the soul. If someone thinks that is too hard... they should not be musicians and probably have some other endeavor they can get lost in. Teaching people how to pull songs out of their ass... is not becoming of a respected school.
I love berklee, love the vibe and the people to come out from there, and have dreamed of going to berklee myself. F*** AI
It's my dream to go to Berklee, but if this course stays imma just find somewhere else to go
Shameful.
Absolutely not. Musicians are artist, generative A.I. steals. Simple.
absolutely not bruh
the use of gen ai to "make" music is one of if not the most craven and unsouled applications of the technology suno is blatant copyright theft also lol
I am a musician, a writer, and a human. This kind of AI is anathema to all three. Berklee was a place where many of my favorite musicians taught or attended, where the name was synonymous with excellence, and while my path didn't take me there, a place that I loved visiting and attending the summer camps. Embracing generative AI has shattered that reputation for me all at once - and for the students I teach as well. I am also a volunteer member of PauseAI US, an AI safety org, and I have made many arguments in my work for the humanity in music. How musicians won't accept it. It's time to listen to your student body, and the broader public at large: no generative AI in your music school.
AI music is a theft of our human capacity for creativity and I yearn for a day where we all realize that and give up on it. Berklee teaches musicians, not venture capitalists, and it needs to stay that way.
Absolutely 0, I mean ZERO professional musicians I work with or am friends with want to use generative AI to create music. The tech bros can try all they want––they WILL fail. Higher learning institutions need to be teaching songwriters, producers & instrumentalists to PROTECT themselves against AI, not to use it in their work. It is quite frankly embarrassing as hell that Berklee is ready to die on this hill. Just take a look at another (formerly) great institution here in Philadelphia, World Cafe Live, who went ALL IN on the Tech Bro™ Metaverse BS, and see what that did for them. Check in and see how they are doing lol. It makes me sad and ashamed that folks in power allowed these courses to be offered to students at all. They should be ashamed.
AI in music is a demonstrably terrible idea! and then to try to INCORPORATE IT into CURRICULUM?? what the hell are we paying all this money for anyway?
Suno clearly is a tool to rob students of their ability, rather than enhance it, to make them reliant, for a fee. Teach kids to create, not plagiarize, steal, and regurgitate.
Teaching students to use AI in songwriting is not forward thinking. It is shortsighted. Songwriting is not a frictionless process - by removing the friction, students will become reliant on the AI to write their songs, which sets them up for failure and prevents them from improving. As a business model, AI only takes more money out of the hands of artists, which will only make the music suffer. For millennia music has been synonymous with culture, but with AI, there will be no progression of culture, we will recirculate the same culture forever as innovation is drowned out and everything is homogenized. All of our lives will be worse for it. AI isn't inevitable - we are free to stop whenever. Stopping now would be great.
AI should not be part of any music education
AI slop
Doctor of Musical Arts in Sonic Arts Composition here. Do not allow anyone to conflate products like Suno AI with the creative potential of AI technology. The fact that key figures in the Berklee administration have past or present links with the Suno AI corporation should set off alarm bells. Not to mention, Tech bro Suno AI CEO Mikey Shulman, who considers ethical artist and art industry practices as inconvenient, is using all of your user data and input to wipe out yours and others' future generations of artist opportunities.
Shameful. So much personal conflict of interest going on. Talk about ruining a reputation
"Teaching" students to simultaneously stunt their creativity and ignore the plagiarism inherent in AI music services isn't going to end well...
This is not the way. Music, writing songs, playing an instrument are salvos for the soul. If someone thinks that is too hard... they should not be musicians and probably have some other endeavor they can get lost in. Teaching people how to pull songs out of their ass... is not becoming of a respected school.
Please be ethical and respectful to artists.
NO GENERATIVE AI IN MUSIC AND ART.