Mathematics (and theoretical computer science) are fundamental to the very disciplines (AI, computational modelling, digitalisation and data science) Leicester wants to develop.
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Shengyong
5 years ago
Pure mathematics is important
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Rodrigo Rill-Garcia
5 years ago
This is the kind of approach that makes students hate mathematics: they don't understand the fundaments. And, without mathematics, all the fields of knowledge lack the opportunity to acquire fundamental tools for their development
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Ian Galloway
5 years ago
Reorganisation, a wicked way to manage human resources at the best of times, but more so when the University fails to recognise the nature of research.
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Aurore Alcolei
5 years ago
Post-doc, University of Bologna
How are we supposed to understand artificial intelligence if we do not understand the intelligence of maths?
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Anonymous
5 years ago
There are many Universities in the US that made similarly short-sighted restructuring plans and are now suffering as they discover what their students(and as importantly their parents) really want is a solid foundational education. Cancelling you pure maths options is a mistake.
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Christian RETORE
5 years ago
skipping math and TCS is stupid in the long term
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Amélie Gheerbrant
5 years ago
So admin people at the University of Leicester are planning to make it a second grade University. Why ? Those admin people are precisely the ones that should be made redundant.
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Valerio Proietti
5 years ago
Before making this decision, I would suggest that the University VC consult with some experts in AI, computational modeling, and data science. I bet you'd find out that said experts oppose this plan.
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Erik Christensen
5 years ago
Denmark
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Riccardo Pengo
5 years ago
Pure mathematics lies at the intersection of almost all applied sciences.
"AI, computational modelling, digitalisation and data science" would not exist without the efforts of pure mathematicians.
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Morten Risager
5 years ago
Mathematics is not redundant.
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Anonymous
5 years ago
I can see that this risks causing a lot of damage to the department, and this comes from a direct competitor in terms of undergraduate students.
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Alexander Frei
5 years ago
*Reference for formal dispute:*
https://arxiv.org/abs/2001.04383
The field of data science is at high interdisciplinary connection with the field of "Operator Algebras" from the pure mathematics area.
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Michaël Quisquater
5 years ago
short-sighted proposition, research doesn't work this way!
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Michel Bauer
5 years ago
Those who believe in a long term research ecosystem without a strong investment in theoretical knowledge not directly linked with
applications should look at history.
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Jean-Marie Madiot
5 years ago
Researcher, INRIA Paris
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Yuezhao Li
5 years ago
I stand together with the math community.
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Jacinta Torres
5 years ago
Pure mathematics is fundamental for the development of mankind.
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Jonathan Fanning
5 years ago
ou will struggle "to ensure a future research identity in AI, computational modelling, digitalisation and data science" without a solid base of new knowledge in pure mathematics.
What they mean is we will get academics churning out software that simply rejigs existing output "in AI, computational modelling, digitalisation and data science" and try and flog it to industry, probably at below real economic cost.
Mathematics (and theoretical computer science) are fundamental to the very disciplines (AI, computational modelling, digitalisation and data science) Leicester wants to develop.
Pure mathematics is important
This is the kind of approach that makes students hate mathematics: they don't understand the fundaments. And, without mathematics, all the fields of knowledge lack the opportunity to acquire fundamental tools for their development
Reorganisation, a wicked way to manage human resources at the best of times, but more so when the University fails to recognise the nature of research.
Post-doc, University of Bologna How are we supposed to understand artificial intelligence if we do not understand the intelligence of maths?
There are many Universities in the US that made similarly short-sighted restructuring plans and are now suffering as they discover what their students(and as importantly their parents) really want is a solid foundational education. Cancelling you pure maths options is a mistake.
skipping math and TCS is stupid in the long term
So admin people at the University of Leicester are planning to make it a second grade University. Why ? Those admin people are precisely the ones that should be made redundant.
Before making this decision, I would suggest that the University VC consult with some experts in AI, computational modeling, and data science. I bet you'd find out that said experts oppose this plan.
Denmark
Pure mathematics lies at the intersection of almost all applied sciences. "AI, computational modelling, digitalisation and data science" would not exist without the efforts of pure mathematicians.
Mathematics is not redundant.
I can see that this risks causing a lot of damage to the department, and this comes from a direct competitor in terms of undergraduate students.
*Reference for formal dispute:* https://arxiv.org/abs/2001.04383 The field of data science is at high interdisciplinary connection with the field of "Operator Algebras" from the pure mathematics area.
short-sighted proposition, research doesn't work this way!
Those who believe in a long term research ecosystem without a strong investment in theoretical knowledge not directly linked with applications should look at history.
Researcher, INRIA Paris
I stand together with the math community.
Pure mathematics is fundamental for the development of mankind.
ou will struggle "to ensure a future research identity in AI, computational modelling, digitalisation and data science" without a solid base of new knowledge in pure mathematics. What they mean is we will get academics churning out software that simply rejigs existing output "in AI, computational modelling, digitalisation and data science" and try and flog it to industry, probably at below real economic cost.