I work within a mixed team of pure and applied mathematicians working on cutting-edge computer vision techniques and models, mostly within what is broadly called "AI". None of this would be possible without all of the pure mathematics we have learnt and continue to learn from our Pure Mathematics colleagues and teachers. You cannot have a Mathematics department in any meaningful sense without Pure Mathematicians.
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Benmoussa Mohammed tayeb
5 years ago
I want to let algebra working because no applied without theory
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D
5 years ago
We need mathematics
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Vaclav Krupicka
5 years ago
We need pure maths as we never know when they work might be crucial for solving real life problems
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Leonid Perlovsky
5 years ago
Please reconsider
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Paul Frank
5 years ago
No. No. No.
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Anonymous
5 years ago
Maths PhD graduate
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Jeffrey Schenker
5 years ago
The notion of eliminating "pure" mathematics is extremely short-sighted. "Applied" mathematics does not get created in a vacuum. One does not have to look very far in modern applied math to find ideas that were developed as pure mathematics applied to cutting edge technologies, e.g., in machine learning and data science. Modern successes in these fields build on a century or more of research in areas of pure mathematics.
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David Klompenhouwer
5 years ago
Please reconsider.
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J Whitehead
5 years ago
Machine Learning needs pure mathematics.
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Michael Ashelby
5 years ago
How idiotic! Without pure mathematics, AI doesn't happen!
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Anonymous
5 years ago
This is short sighted and does not make sense. Pure maths is too often considered as "ephemeral". Yet there are many examples in history where purely abstract mathematical concepts eventually led to powerful applications way beyond the context in which they were developed. Universities should be the breeding ground of new ideas.
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Graham Farr
5 years ago
Pure Mathematics has *lots* of applications! They tend to be far-reaching, but may take time to emerge. Any institution calling itself a "university" should nurture the foundational disciplines and look to the long term.
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Alexandr Gelfan
5 years ago
The problem is that funding decisions are made by officials, who perceive science not as a part of culture, but as a productive force. Pure mathematics does not make quick money or does not make it at all. This means, from the point of view of officials, that pure mathematics is not needed.
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Kartik Waghmare
5 years ago
Please reconsider. This would be disgraceful.
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Tashi Yangzom
5 years ago
esearch in Mathematics at Leicester is world-known and very important. It would be a shame to destroy it.
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Essakine Omar
5 years ago
Mathematics is not redundant
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Nikita Merkulov
5 years ago
Are these decision-makers like, "apply is money is good", "pure is no apply is bad"? That's literally the Middle Age way of thinking. Sure, some ignorant people share this stance even today, but I'm shocked to see those who are supposed to be educated and smart and see the bigger picture can suggest anything like this.
Louis Pasteur once said “There are no such things as applied sciences, only applications of science.” You can't just cut bits off science and pretend you still have a "future research identity" - or any future at all.
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Andrew Foulkes
5 years ago
I thought this was a wind up at first! An university mathematics department that is getting rid of pure mathematicians!! It's like a Michelin starred restaurant getting rid of its chefs and replacing them with a few apprentice mechanics who have never cooked in their lives! Pure mathematics is the backbone of mathematics and not having a pure mathematics presence in a mathematics department will detrimental to that department. Pure maths is the bread and butter of not just mathematics but other areas of science, including AI and Data Science. Rather than get rid of pure maths to replace it with AI/Data Science, why not be ambitious and expand the department and utilise pure mathematicians within those new areas? Doesn't make a great deal of sense. I do hope that this nonsensical proposal will be forgotten about soon, and the pure mathematicians at Leicester will keep do the amazing things that they are doing!
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Frederic Pierre-Jean Latremoliere
5 years ago
Going on with same logic of prioritizing money making scheme in place of academic pursuit, I recommend replacing astronomy with astrology --- I heard there are many more opportunities for publications, deals with various publishers, and easy, concrete connection with the public. Also, I recall Alchemy, unlike Chemistry, promised to deliver gold from trash; maybe this should also be explored. In fact, this more or less seem to be the proposed scheme: "shaping for excellence" a school with no research in mathematics is kind of claiming to turning lead into gold.
I work within a mixed team of pure and applied mathematicians working on cutting-edge computer vision techniques and models, mostly within what is broadly called "AI". None of this would be possible without all of the pure mathematics we have learnt and continue to learn from our Pure Mathematics colleagues and teachers. You cannot have a Mathematics department in any meaningful sense without Pure Mathematicians.
I want to let algebra working because no applied without theory
We need mathematics
We need pure maths as we never know when they work might be crucial for solving real life problems
Please reconsider
No. No. No.
Maths PhD graduate
The notion of eliminating "pure" mathematics is extremely short-sighted. "Applied" mathematics does not get created in a vacuum. One does not have to look very far in modern applied math to find ideas that were developed as pure mathematics applied to cutting edge technologies, e.g., in machine learning and data science. Modern successes in these fields build on a century or more of research in areas of pure mathematics.
Please reconsider.
Machine Learning needs pure mathematics.
How idiotic! Without pure mathematics, AI doesn't happen!
This is short sighted and does not make sense. Pure maths is too often considered as "ephemeral". Yet there are many examples in history where purely abstract mathematical concepts eventually led to powerful applications way beyond the context in which they were developed. Universities should be the breeding ground of new ideas.
Pure Mathematics has *lots* of applications! They tend to be far-reaching, but may take time to emerge. Any institution calling itself a "university" should nurture the foundational disciplines and look to the long term.
The problem is that funding decisions are made by officials, who perceive science not as a part of culture, but as a productive force. Pure mathematics does not make quick money or does not make it at all. This means, from the point of view of officials, that pure mathematics is not needed.
Please reconsider. This would be disgraceful.
esearch in Mathematics at Leicester is world-known and very important. It would be a shame to destroy it.
Mathematics is not redundant
Are these decision-makers like, "apply is money is good", "pure is no apply is bad"? That's literally the Middle Age way of thinking. Sure, some ignorant people share this stance even today, but I'm shocked to see those who are supposed to be educated and smart and see the bigger picture can suggest anything like this. Louis Pasteur once said “There are no such things as applied sciences, only applications of science.” You can't just cut bits off science and pretend you still have a "future research identity" - or any future at all.
I thought this was a wind up at first! An university mathematics department that is getting rid of pure mathematicians!! It's like a Michelin starred restaurant getting rid of its chefs and replacing them with a few apprentice mechanics who have never cooked in their lives! Pure mathematics is the backbone of mathematics and not having a pure mathematics presence in a mathematics department will detrimental to that department. Pure maths is the bread and butter of not just mathematics but other areas of science, including AI and Data Science. Rather than get rid of pure maths to replace it with AI/Data Science, why not be ambitious and expand the department and utilise pure mathematicians within those new areas? Doesn't make a great deal of sense. I do hope that this nonsensical proposal will be forgotten about soon, and the pure mathematicians at Leicester will keep do the amazing things that they are doing!
Going on with same logic of prioritizing money making scheme in place of academic pursuit, I recommend replacing astronomy with astrology --- I heard there are many more opportunities for publications, deals with various publishers, and easy, concrete connection with the public. Also, I recall Alchemy, unlike Chemistry, promised to deliver gold from trash; maybe this should also be explored. In fact, this more or less seem to be the proposed scheme: "shaping for excellence" a school with no research in mathematics is kind of claiming to turning lead into gold.