The developer believes the charm of this corner will appeal to potential condo buyers. With a three-year construction timeline and no plan for construction parking and only 27 public spaces hundreds of yards away, they may force closure of some of those very businesses they believe will help sell the condos.
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Jay Kanzler
6 years ago
Too much in too small a space. We still do not know how bad traffic will be with Centene. Let’s keep the smaller neighborhood feel where we can.
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Helene Frankel
6 years ago
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Besides destroying the charm of that lowrise area, I am concerned about more traffic on Hanley Road. We haven’t had time to experience the increase of traffic from the Centenne project or the new senior care project at Hanley and Clayton Road.
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Wayne Burkett
6 years ago
You’re talking about a parking lot, Rebecca.
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Wayne Burkett
6 years ago
Sounds awesome, Jane!
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Wayne Burkett
6 years ago
Whose culture? It fits my culture perfectly. I get that it doesn’t fit baby-boomer car culture, but that’s why it’s good.
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Wayne Burkett
6 years ago
You’re right, Shannon. Cars are dangerous and should be banned in urban areas entirely!
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Wayne Burkett
6 years ago
Looks to me like they’re working for the potential residents who will live in these units instead of kowtowing to every whim of current residents who want to keep everybody else out and keep the best parts of the city all to themselves.
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Siva Avvaru
6 years ago
Oh look the boomers are complaining about increasing tax revenue and continued new development lol. Since when does a parking lot take precedence for adding residential and commercial space? How about people get out and walk for a change?
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Jeanne Mulligan
6 years ago
So many reasons......
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MarkO
6 years ago
White material on upper floors looks like plastic. Why the cheep looking art deco or streamlined modern architecture? How about a traditional St. Louis style brick façade with windows rather than the massive voids of balconies. Where is the public sidewalk? Are pedestrians made to walk in the narrow pavement along the curb with traffic zooming by at 40mph? Or do pedestrians need to weave in between all of the tables that may fill that area below the covered walk area? The City should request 100% brick exterior designed more like the existing buildings and an additional level of below grade public parking added if ANY of their requested zoning changes are granted. It should be a give and take.
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S. Lengel
6 years ago
I am embarrassed to read the majority of these comments. To think a parking lot is somehow sacred is demonstrative of the downfall of our civilization. I’d prefer more residents adding to our tax base. I think the proposed building is attractive. Looks like my apartment building in Bethesda, MD which is similar in many ways to Clayton.
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Anonymous
6 years ago
Needs to be only 3 stories and all brick and stone to keep with area look.
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Jeff Vines
6 years ago
Looks like a great project to me and I hope it gets built. Everyone who is up in arms about losing the precious charming surface parking lot fails to acknowledge the new residents who will live in these units, which translates into a new built-in customer base for the adjacent businesses. This is not Town & Country-- Hanley on this stretch is already lined with several 20 story towers, so it’s disingenuous to pretend that a 4 story building is “so out of character” for the neighborhood. All the fear about increased traffic is overblown too, and is based on the scenario that all the cars that use the garage will come and go at the same time (which of course will not be the case). Besides, cars come and go from the current parking lot, so it’s not like it’s a serene refuge to sit and watch the butterflies. I’m having a flashback to when Highway 40 closed for reconstruction and everyone freaked out about impending gridlock and business closures and declining property values. And guess what- everyone survived! Just as we will if a 4 story building is built in place of a parking lot.
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sandeep sharma
6 years ago
It look like city administration is working for developer not for residents of area.
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Wayne Burkett
6 years ago
The comments here are shameful and absurd. The proposed building is fine and whether to allow it shouldn’t be up to neighborhood busybodies. If you don’t like people building new things near you, then move to the country. I long for the day when projects like this can be done by right, so that we don’t have to ask people like you guys for permission to build 4-story buildings. You all should be ashamed of yourselves.
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Sho Kang
6 years ago
No more heavy traffic. Too many buildings already.
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Anonymous
6 years ago
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Continued parking for access to local businesses seems a far more important function given the continuing elimination of street parking in the city. This lot is always full when one drives by especially during business hours.
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Marjorie Treeger
6 years ago
I have written my comments to the Mayor. I believe this would be a really terrible call
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Shannon Lenze
6 years ago
This seems out of proportion with the actual space available. This development and the resulting traffic will be dangerous for our children walking and biking to and from school.
The developer believes the charm of this corner will appeal to potential condo buyers. With a three-year construction timeline and no plan for construction parking and only 27 public spaces hundreds of yards away, they may force closure of some of those very businesses they believe will help sell the condos.
Too much in too small a space. We still do not know how bad traffic will be with Centene. Let’s keep the smaller neighborhood feel where we can.
Besides destroying the charm of that lowrise area, I am concerned about more traffic on Hanley Road. We haven’t had time to experience the increase of traffic from the Centenne project or the new senior care project at Hanley and Clayton Road.
You’re talking about a parking lot, Rebecca.
Sounds awesome, Jane!
Whose culture? It fits my culture perfectly. I get that it doesn’t fit baby-boomer car culture, but that’s why it’s good.
You’re right, Shannon. Cars are dangerous and should be banned in urban areas entirely!
Looks to me like they’re working for the potential residents who will live in these units instead of kowtowing to every whim of current residents who want to keep everybody else out and keep the best parts of the city all to themselves.
Oh look the boomers are complaining about increasing tax revenue and continued new development lol. Since when does a parking lot take precedence for adding residential and commercial space? How about people get out and walk for a change?
So many reasons......
White material on upper floors looks like plastic. Why the cheep looking art deco or streamlined modern architecture? How about a traditional St. Louis style brick façade with windows rather than the massive voids of balconies. Where is the public sidewalk? Are pedestrians made to walk in the narrow pavement along the curb with traffic zooming by at 40mph? Or do pedestrians need to weave in between all of the tables that may fill that area below the covered walk area? The City should request 100% brick exterior designed more like the existing buildings and an additional level of below grade public parking added if ANY of their requested zoning changes are granted. It should be a give and take.
I am embarrassed to read the majority of these comments. To think a parking lot is somehow sacred is demonstrative of the downfall of our civilization. I’d prefer more residents adding to our tax base. I think the proposed building is attractive. Looks like my apartment building in Bethesda, MD which is similar in many ways to Clayton.
Needs to be only 3 stories and all brick and stone to keep with area look.
Looks like a great project to me and I hope it gets built. Everyone who is up in arms about losing the precious charming surface parking lot fails to acknowledge the new residents who will live in these units, which translates into a new built-in customer base for the adjacent businesses. This is not Town & Country-- Hanley on this stretch is already lined with several 20 story towers, so it’s disingenuous to pretend that a 4 story building is “so out of character” for the neighborhood. All the fear about increased traffic is overblown too, and is based on the scenario that all the cars that use the garage will come and go at the same time (which of course will not be the case). Besides, cars come and go from the current parking lot, so it’s not like it’s a serene refuge to sit and watch the butterflies. I’m having a flashback to when Highway 40 closed for reconstruction and everyone freaked out about impending gridlock and business closures and declining property values. And guess what- everyone survived! Just as we will if a 4 story building is built in place of a parking lot.
It look like city administration is working for developer not for residents of area.
The comments here are shameful and absurd. The proposed building is fine and whether to allow it shouldn’t be up to neighborhood busybodies. If you don’t like people building new things near you, then move to the country. I long for the day when projects like this can be done by right, so that we don’t have to ask people like you guys for permission to build 4-story buildings. You all should be ashamed of yourselves.
No more heavy traffic. Too many buildings already.
Continued parking for access to local businesses seems a far more important function given the continuing elimination of street parking in the city. This lot is always full when one drives by especially during business hours.
I have written my comments to the Mayor. I believe this would be a really terrible call
This seems out of proportion with the actual space available. This development and the resulting traffic will be dangerous for our children walking and biking to and from school.