Improving Thoroughbred racing through better surveillance and security along with tough penalties for those who violate the rules
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Jim Moriarty
11 years ago
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National body needed, and no cheating allowed. Suspend the trainer and horse for 6 months on first offense, two years for subsequent offense. Watch how quick that gets everyone in line.
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annette matejik
11 years ago
Can we not have one organization that oversees all tracks similar to the nfl/nhl to have consistency of rules. This would better serve all racing fans
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David Chamberlin
11 years ago
This is a major sport. Time to give it some integrity.
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William A. Boney
11 years ago
Job one is protecting horse and rider.
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gene todaro
11 years ago
we need this type of actoin to police the sport
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John De Angelo
11 years ago
Fewer racing days, reduce takeout, free admission and parking to live racing.
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Anonymous
11 years ago
CHRB members are brainless subhumans.
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Bill Curry
11 years ago
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I once saw a horse so drugged that he flipped over in hs stall, gave himself a bloody nose and his owners a win. I hope they enjoy their bloody victory photo. Before the race I came an inch from informing the stewards. I wish I had.
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glenn metelski
11 years ago
ok
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John Hendrickson
11 years ago
How about another petition for lowering takeouts and breakage?
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alan pensiero
11 years ago
The $2 horseplayer is the lifeblood of a multi-billion dollar industry. If no one bets, the entire industry crumbles to nothing. Therefore the bettor needs the most honest and fair game possible.
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Tom Delaney
11 years ago
The sport also needs a national body regulating the industry uniformly across the country.
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Jerry Jamgotchian
11 years ago
There is no place for dirty trainers like Baffert, Dutrow, etc in legitimate horseracing because they are NOT about the horse; just about the money!!!!!! The CHRB AND TOC protect these dirty trainers and this must stop doing it NOW! If not, the game will just get worse!
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Brian Meaney
11 years ago
I support cleaning up any mistreatment of the horses and cheating in any fashion which negatively impacts or disgraces the sport of horse racing.
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Chase Mullins
11 years ago
Get the rats out of the game
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Luigi Giovanni
11 years ago
We ultimately require Asian - Hong Kong, Japan - standards.
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Becky Runau
11 years ago
It seems more and more are getting by with bad test.... If you understand,where Iam coming from....While some are paying fines and getting license suspended...
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Becky Runau
11 years ago
Horses need to be tested for any blocking agent... I know I don't want to run against a horse that has been blocked...
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Eleanor Moore
11 years ago
It is time to do right by the horses, which will in turn sort the wheat from the chaff.
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Rich Halvey
11 years ago
As you might know I've been blogging about this for a while, specifically in relation to Wind of Bosphorus and Argenta. While I find purposeful cheating abhorrent, I believe the imposition of the death penalty, or even long sentences, must be reserved for the most egregious or repeated violations. Secondly, the cost of the extra security and testing will be most likely borne by the betting public, and that may affect takeout. We may inadvertently wind up punishing ourselves. Third, how do you punish owners, assistant trainers, grooms, etc. if they have not been collusive with a trainer? I understand the "too freaking bad" argument for owners and staff that are looking the other way, but most of the cases I've looked at have some ambiguity. I agree with Barry Meadow - when owners refuse to use a trainer known to push the limits of the envelope, either that trainer will come into conformity or lose his livelihood. If you read the CHRB decision in the case of Argenta, the CHRB basically said the trainer didn't intentionally try to change the TCO2 levels of the horse, but once she tested above the limit, that made a prima facie case for a violation. 180 days (135 suspended) was probably an appropriate penalty. Finally, I don't want to overestimate the ability of commissions (I won't say a name on the CHRB, but I'm sure you can speculate) nor underestimate the power of their staff people. These are often complicated, technical issues that are being decided by people who are not always technically adept. I could be wrong, but I believe it is rare to see a room full of horseplayers when most rulemaking is being pushed through by commissions. I couldn't agree more with the need for security and monitoring, and I couldn't agree more with the need to have strong rules with appropriate consequences. But based on my research, I perhaps have less faith in the ability of some current commissions to implement either. That being said, I support the concept being forwarded in this
National body needed, and no cheating allowed. Suspend the trainer and horse for 6 months on first offense, two years for subsequent offense. Watch how quick that gets everyone in line.
Can we not have one organization that oversees all tracks similar to the nfl/nhl to have consistency of rules. This would better serve all racing fans
This is a major sport. Time to give it some integrity.
Job one is protecting horse and rider.
we need this type of actoin to police the sport
Fewer racing days, reduce takeout, free admission and parking to live racing.
CHRB members are brainless subhumans.
I once saw a horse so drugged that he flipped over in hs stall, gave himself a bloody nose and his owners a win. I hope they enjoy their bloody victory photo. Before the race I came an inch from informing the stewards. I wish I had.
ok
How about another petition for lowering takeouts and breakage?
The $2 horseplayer is the lifeblood of a multi-billion dollar industry. If no one bets, the entire industry crumbles to nothing. Therefore the bettor needs the most honest and fair game possible.
The sport also needs a national body regulating the industry uniformly across the country.
There is no place for dirty trainers like Baffert, Dutrow, etc in legitimate horseracing because they are NOT about the horse; just about the money!!!!!! The CHRB AND TOC protect these dirty trainers and this must stop doing it NOW! If not, the game will just get worse!
I support cleaning up any mistreatment of the horses and cheating in any fashion which negatively impacts or disgraces the sport of horse racing.
Get the rats out of the game
We ultimately require Asian - Hong Kong, Japan - standards.
It seems more and more are getting by with bad test.... If you understand,where Iam coming from....While some are paying fines and getting license suspended...
Horses need to be tested for any blocking agent... I know I don't want to run against a horse that has been blocked...
It is time to do right by the horses, which will in turn sort the wheat from the chaff.
As you might know I've been blogging about this for a while, specifically in relation to Wind of Bosphorus and Argenta. While I find purposeful cheating abhorrent, I believe the imposition of the death penalty, or even long sentences, must be reserved for the most egregious or repeated violations. Secondly, the cost of the extra security and testing will be most likely borne by the betting public, and that may affect takeout. We may inadvertently wind up punishing ourselves. Third, how do you punish owners, assistant trainers, grooms, etc. if they have not been collusive with a trainer? I understand the "too freaking bad" argument for owners and staff that are looking the other way, but most of the cases I've looked at have some ambiguity. I agree with Barry Meadow - when owners refuse to use a trainer known to push the limits of the envelope, either that trainer will come into conformity or lose his livelihood. If you read the CHRB decision in the case of Argenta, the CHRB basically said the trainer didn't intentionally try to change the TCO2 levels of the horse, but once she tested above the limit, that made a prima facie case for a violation. 180 days (135 suspended) was probably an appropriate penalty. Finally, I don't want to overestimate the ability of commissions (I won't say a name on the CHRB, but I'm sure you can speculate) nor underestimate the power of their staff people. These are often complicated, technical issues that are being decided by people who are not always technically adept. I could be wrong, but I believe it is rare to see a room full of horseplayers when most rulemaking is being pushed through by commissions. I couldn't agree more with the need for security and monitoring, and I couldn't agree more with the need to have strong rules with appropriate consequences. But based on my research, I perhaps have less faith in the ability of some current commissions to implement either. That being said, I support the concept being forwarded in this