Develop Historic Broadway NOT wastefully widen the roadway
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R Maires
10 years ago
We can choose a future or build another iteration of the past. When you look at the 3 Imagine Greater Tucson maps showing differing projected densities of some future Tucson ranging from business as usual sprawl to dense and urban what's interesting is a majority of people chose the dense version. You don't promote density by widening a roadway in the central core from 4 to 6 lanes. 6 lanes is death for to a walkable urban environment. Medianized roadways with multiple lanes of speeding traffic are barriers to anybody not in an automobile. What's driving this decision is fear and greed. Fear on the part of the electeds, what if we got it wrong and the automobile really is our future? The greed part is using other people's money. You can't straddle the fence on this one, our future is the one or the other. What the so-called progressives on the city council need to realise is being progressive doesn't mean doing the same thing over and over again and magically thinking the result will be different. We've done it the one way for the past 100 years. We won't be able to do it into the future for the next hundred years. The time is now M&C, put up or shut up.
And to the Greg Clarks of this world. Yeah, you've been held hostage by the city and this roadway for several decades, I feel your pain. I have a business in the path of another roadway project but really does it make sense to sacrifice a city's entire central core to make sure you get a fair deal? Greater good works in both directions.
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Francine Smith
10 years ago
Please reconsider. Broadway has so much potential widening the road as plan will be a terrible for the current business and will discourage any new development.
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Cara
10 years ago
Please don't destroy historic buildings to widen Broadway, extend the streetcar down the middle instead!
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Anonymous
10 years ago
Save Lerua's!
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Dena Cowan
10 years ago
DO NOT WIDEN FOR CARS. Instead, build more and better bike lanes and sidewalks, and plant shade trees. Preserve historic buildings.
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Stuart gibson
10 years ago
Please don't demolish this historic area!
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Anonymous
10 years ago
There are never traffic backups in this stretch of Broadway. It seems this proposed project is misguided.
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Anonymous
10 years ago
This street does not need to be widened. It will cost more than what the voters were told in 2006 just like the trolley ended up costing more. The city of Tucson is doing nothing to help businesses that are going to be demolished to re-establish. For example: Lerua's has been there since I was a little girls. That was back in the 50's, My mother went to Lerua's when she was a little girl. If Broadway is widened this long time establishment will have to close its doors for good.
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Kathryn Van Kirk
10 years ago
As a third generation Tucsonan, it breaks my heart that so many buildings and established Tucson businesses are in danger of being destroyed by the Broadway widening. I hope that the City Council listens to the concerns of citizens and and votes not to widen Historic Broadway.
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Ed Hubert
10 years ago
Turn down the "free" money and leave Broadway as it is.
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Randy Serraglio
10 years ago
City of Tucson: Git yer brain outta the 20th century! Transportation is about moving PEOPLE, not just CARS!
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Eleanor Kedney Schaffer
10 years ago
Let's do what is right for the store iwners in Broadwar and revitalize it.
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Anonymous
10 years ago
Think about the reasons people move here. The history, the quirkiness... please think about that before you start tearing more buildings down.
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Les the Bicyclero
10 years ago
Cui bono -- who benefits -- from the proposed Broadway widening?
- Cars? Nope. Neither the volume of cars shoved through Broadway nor the overall throughput speed will improve.
- Transit? Nope. Inclusion of bus pullouts automatically disqualifies any professed concern for transit performance.
- Bicyclists? Nope. Replacing the current center turn lane with raised medians forces bicycles to remain in traffic and unsafe longer when simple left turns are taken away and replaced by an overshoot, u-turn, and double-back dance.
- Pedestrians? Nope. Wheelchair users and stroller pushers face the same barriers as bicyclists, being forced blocks out of their way just to cross the street.
- Business and commerce? Not hardly. If six-lane medianized throughways created go-to destinations that draw customers and grow businesses, East Speedway Blvd and East 22nd Street would look quite different.
The proposed plan does not improve performance or functionality for ANYONE, and in fact reduces it overall. RTA has said quite clearly that it will not fund any plan that reduces functionality. It is time for them to demand a serious and considered redesign and focus of resources on a plan that actually WORKS for ALL transport modes. Taxpayers deserve better.
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Michael Ebert
10 years ago
1.The Aviation Corridor is not completed.
2. Broadway traffic volume does not warrant this dramatic alignment as proposed.
3. Saving some of our cultural architecture is important.
I say complete a few bus pullouts and creating some beautification standards without sterilizing lower Broadway is the answer.
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Christy Voelkel
10 years ago
I live at Country Club and Broadway and ride my bike downtown on Broadway every day so obviously I know every crevice and pothole. I care.
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Don Jones
10 years ago
Against Widening
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William Craig
10 years ago
Originally too many different issues were linked together. Other parts of town wanted road changes which had nothing to do with Broadway. When the vote was in it ALL passed. Broadway widening should never have been tied to the other road issues. Ten years later we are paying for our folly.
Time for cooler heads to prevail. Take a step back and see this huge outlay of cash for what it is. A small saving of time for two short periods a day. A huge cost to neighborhoods and the tax base.
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Abby Jensen
10 years ago
There are better ways to modernize Broadway than the current plan. Please sends those plans back to the drawing board and listen to what the people affected by this upgrade want: a livable, walkable & bikable community.
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MICHAELEEN MCNERNEY
10 years ago
Tucson has lost most many historic structures in the name of growth. Please, please come up with a growth plan that builds on our history and culture, not one that just adds more lanes.
We can choose a future or build another iteration of the past. When you look at the 3 Imagine Greater Tucson maps showing differing projected densities of some future Tucson ranging from business as usual sprawl to dense and urban what's interesting is a majority of people chose the dense version. You don't promote density by widening a roadway in the central core from 4 to 6 lanes. 6 lanes is death for to a walkable urban environment. Medianized roadways with multiple lanes of speeding traffic are barriers to anybody not in an automobile. What's driving this decision is fear and greed. Fear on the part of the electeds, what if we got it wrong and the automobile really is our future? The greed part is using other people's money. You can't straddle the fence on this one, our future is the one or the other. What the so-called progressives on the city council need to realise is being progressive doesn't mean doing the same thing over and over again and magically thinking the result will be different. We've done it the one way for the past 100 years. We won't be able to do it into the future for the next hundred years. The time is now M&C, put up or shut up. And to the Greg Clarks of this world. Yeah, you've been held hostage by the city and this roadway for several decades, I feel your pain. I have a business in the path of another roadway project but really does it make sense to sacrifice a city's entire central core to make sure you get a fair deal? Greater good works in both directions.
Please reconsider. Broadway has so much potential widening the road as plan will be a terrible for the current business and will discourage any new development.
Please don't destroy historic buildings to widen Broadway, extend the streetcar down the middle instead!
Save Lerua's!
DO NOT WIDEN FOR CARS. Instead, build more and better bike lanes and sidewalks, and plant shade trees. Preserve historic buildings.
Please don't demolish this historic area!
There are never traffic backups in this stretch of Broadway. It seems this proposed project is misguided.
This street does not need to be widened. It will cost more than what the voters were told in 2006 just like the trolley ended up costing more. The city of Tucson is doing nothing to help businesses that are going to be demolished to re-establish. For example: Lerua's has been there since I was a little girls. That was back in the 50's, My mother went to Lerua's when she was a little girl. If Broadway is widened this long time establishment will have to close its doors for good.
As a third generation Tucsonan, it breaks my heart that so many buildings and established Tucson businesses are in danger of being destroyed by the Broadway widening. I hope that the City Council listens to the concerns of citizens and and votes not to widen Historic Broadway.
Turn down the "free" money and leave Broadway as it is.
City of Tucson: Git yer brain outta the 20th century! Transportation is about moving PEOPLE, not just CARS!
Let's do what is right for the store iwners in Broadwar and revitalize it.
Think about the reasons people move here. The history, the quirkiness... please think about that before you start tearing more buildings down.
Cui bono -- who benefits -- from the proposed Broadway widening? - Cars? Nope. Neither the volume of cars shoved through Broadway nor the overall throughput speed will improve. - Transit? Nope. Inclusion of bus pullouts automatically disqualifies any professed concern for transit performance. - Bicyclists? Nope. Replacing the current center turn lane with raised medians forces bicycles to remain in traffic and unsafe longer when simple left turns are taken away and replaced by an overshoot, u-turn, and double-back dance. - Pedestrians? Nope. Wheelchair users and stroller pushers face the same barriers as bicyclists, being forced blocks out of their way just to cross the street. - Business and commerce? Not hardly. If six-lane medianized throughways created go-to destinations that draw customers and grow businesses, East Speedway Blvd and East 22nd Street would look quite different. The proposed plan does not improve performance or functionality for ANYONE, and in fact reduces it overall. RTA has said quite clearly that it will not fund any plan that reduces functionality. It is time for them to demand a serious and considered redesign and focus of resources on a plan that actually WORKS for ALL transport modes. Taxpayers deserve better.
1.The Aviation Corridor is not completed. 2. Broadway traffic volume does not warrant this dramatic alignment as proposed. 3. Saving some of our cultural architecture is important. I say complete a few bus pullouts and creating some beautification standards without sterilizing lower Broadway is the answer.
I live at Country Club and Broadway and ride my bike downtown on Broadway every day so obviously I know every crevice and pothole. I care.
Against Widening
Originally too many different issues were linked together. Other parts of town wanted road changes which had nothing to do with Broadway. When the vote was in it ALL passed. Broadway widening should never have been tied to the other road issues. Ten years later we are paying for our folly. Time for cooler heads to prevail. Take a step back and see this huge outlay of cash for what it is. A small saving of time for two short periods a day. A huge cost to neighborhoods and the tax base.
There are better ways to modernize Broadway than the current plan. Please sends those plans back to the drawing board and listen to what the people affected by this upgrade want: a livable, walkable & bikable community.
Tucson has lost most many historic structures in the name of growth. Please, please come up with a growth plan that builds on our history and culture, not one that just adds more lanes.