Hi All!
I need your help to sign this petition to ensure that Pretzel does not become "declared" meaning the council will deem her as a danger to other dogs and humans. I find this all very amusing and most of those that know Pretzel will also find this rather absurd. However the council have said that if I do not dispute this then they will declare pretzel a dangerous beast, which will mean muzzling her in public, paying hefty dangerous dog registration fees and so on. I find all of this appalling even after the visit from the council where they were introduced to Pretzel and she greeted him with a kiss then was laying down for the next 20 minutes whilst he told me that he thought he had the wrong house!! I thought they would have some common sense and cancel this action, but alas here I am.
(added 12/19/2019) please see bottom of page for links to videos of pretzel with dogs and kids.
On the 27th of September I was playing with my dog Pretzel a mere meter from the back of my own property as I have been doing without issue for the past 2 years. The back of my house backs up to a vacant area of land where dogs often play off leash. We always get people walking their dogs through this lot so people are fully aware of any presence of animals or humans here and can clearly identify that I occasionally play with my dog off leash behind my house. Myself and Pretzel are fairly well known in the local vicinity.
On this occasion a couple that live across the road from me were walking their pet poodle straight into the vicinity where I was playing with Pretzel, they could see my dog and they had previously interacted with my dog and even had my dog in their own house when she got out one day. They were under the impression all was OK to walk into our direct vicinity. So in this instance they knew they were approaching an unrestrained dog which was not an issue to them and there was no fear in doing so. Because there were never previous signs of any aggression from my dog.
Pretzel ran over to the other dog and interacted as dogs do initially and in this instance play turned rough which is quite normal for dogs and by no means was it an "attack" or causing fear to any humans.
The male person walking the dog separated the dogs and it all was over in a matter of seconds. I did ask the owners if their dog was OK but they ignored me and continued walking their poodle down the road.
From my experiences of taking Pretzel to various dog parks for the past two years, what occurred here is nothing out of the ordinary that wouldn't happen every day in a dog park. I have been on the receiving end a number of times where it is usually other owners asking if my dog is Ok because of various types of rough play. Dogs will be dogs, rough play is normal. We could go into plenty of definitions and studies of how dogs interact and what is a normal interaction vs an attack to understand that this was not an aggressive dog attack. When dogs attack they lose all sense of reality and kill other dogs, they don't nibble on ears. If my dog did bite the poodles ear we can read here that it is not deemed a serious attack. "Dogs who bite at other dogs’ faces or ears are angry, but not usually serious about causing damage" REF: https://paws4udogs.wordpress.com/2015/05/26/dog-dog-aggression-between-housemates-part-two-bites/
The owners returned (20-30) minutes later (we were still playing) and asked me to come look at their dogs ear and blatantly told me that I should pay their vets bill. I said no as they initially ignored me and told them that I wasn't interested. If they had acknowledged me straight after the dogs were separated I would have happily obliged to inspect and assist, however both parties argued with me telling me that I must pay their vet bill or they would report me to the council. (So here we are)
They both walked away from me but were still in my vicinity talking to each other trying to figure out how they wanted to deal with the situation, so I did decide approach them to have a look at the dogs ear and visually I saw nothing but a scratch of dried up blood, far from an attack in my opinion (if it was my dog at all). If it was an actual dog attack there would have no doubt been a puncture to the ear or worse. A German Shepherd has a bite force of 238 pounds. If this was an attack the delicate ear tissue of a dog would have punctured or ripped off. If it was an attack the dog would have gone for the legs or throat rather than an ear.
Keep in mind that in the initial instance of the dogs separation neither of us knew that anything was wrong until 20-30 minutes later after their walk. They happily walked off without acknowledging me and I continued to play with my dog. If it was an actual attack would the dog and owners have walked off calmly without saying a word to me? Once someone or something is attacked they usually take action immediately not 30 minutes later.
It is also a fact that I do not know if another dog attacked them along their route or something happened to the ear whilst they were not in my vicinity? Neither party witnessed any damage immediately after the attack and there was a long period where we did not have any visual contact with each other. The ear was not visibly bleeding at this time, there was no indication of injury. The owners ignored me after the dogs were separated and I verbally asked them if their dog was ok. I did not receive a response.
There are up to 10-20 dogs every day walking via billan st and the vacant land block behind my house from morning to evening, leashed and off-leash. We often have dogs escaping, so it's not out of the question that it was perhaps another dog or cat that did this to the poodles ear (skin on that part of a dogs body is very superficial and there are a number of ways for it to be damaged)
Facts:
1. Pretzel is a 2 year old German Shepherd (with police pedigree background) She is highly intelligent and motivated and can perform a range of tricks, she normally listens but she is still 2 years old (puppy phase)
2. Pretzel is well known at the local dog parks. I am hoping to get some of her fans to sign this petition so I can submit to council. Pretzel has NEVER been involved in any incident since her birth, we often visit multiple dog parks and public places.
3. Pretzel has never attacked a person and has 0 aggression to people entering my property, she jumps on them to play.
4. Pretzel has never attacked another dog
5. Pretzel has stayed with over 10 different humans and animals whilst I have been away (I will ask them to sign this petition) - Can provide photo evidence and booking evidence of stays and website reviews.
6. Pretzel has her own Instagram where you can see her interacting with other dogs (@pretzthegermanshepherd) https://www.instagram.com/pretzthegermanshepherd/
7. Pretzel regular visits Bunnings (Cannon Hill)
8. The complainant was not suggesting reporting Pretzel for an attack initially they were upset that I refused to pay their vets bill (before they had even gone to the vet) So this report is simply out of spite for my reaction when they approached me 30 minutes later about their dogs ear.
9. The complainant lives across the road from me, they often walk behind my house with their dog, very close to my fence to make Pretzel bark. They could easily avoid walking behind my property.
10. The complainant has had Pretzel in their house playing with their dog previously for half a day or more.
11. I can provide a veterinary or professional opinion on Pretzels behavior or aggression levels. Pretzel is known by 2 local vets.
12. Pretzel has attended puppy school that can also provide a professional opinion.
13. Pretzel volunteers with children\adults at the wesley hospital at chermside (can provide a written reference)
For the council:
Pretzel will not be off leash in my back yard/vacant lot area any more so prevent anything like this occurring again
Please do not deem her to be dangerous as this would seriously disadvantage her lifestyle and mine. Pretzel does not deserve or require to be muzzled in public, we do not need to put more fear into people especially if the dog is no threat. Everyone adores this dog!
I can honestly say that I do not know if Pretzel caused the damage to her ear as it was not evident until 30 minutes later
No one can prove that it was Pretzel as the complainant left the scene for 30 minutes
Pretzel has caused no harm during her stays at other peoples places, with other peoples animals, dog parks or dog schools.
There is not sufficient grounds or evidence to declare her dangerous.
Here is some video footage from today 12/19/2019 of Pretzels interactions with dogs and kids at a local dog park: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_vCUm5ERnvmJyT7mewSQUw
Ryan.
Updates
December 18, 2019
I really cannot believe how many people have jumped on this to defend Pretzel because she is clearly just a sweetheart and not remotely a dangerous dog. Seeing all this backing makes me feel so much better since the council visit was honestly the most bizarre afternoon of my life. I am going to make sure they see this because there is no way they can call her a threat now.
18 Comments
I’m signing this petition as I have cared for pretzel for 6 days in a row! I myself have a small dog and also had a large dog at the time. I had no issues with Pretzel at all. All dogs, myself and my mother had no issues with Pretzel. She is the most lovely dog too have around and I’m happy too look after her again at anytime. Even the dog next was barking an growling at pretzel (apparently he doesn’t like darker dogs). Pretzel just walked away with not a bother. Therefore, to me this is a Ridiculous petition and not warranted for pretzel in anyway. Thank you Laura Creswell
I have known Pretzel since the day Ryan got her & have had my dachshunds (even as puppies) around her several times. We have never had an issue with any aggression during play, nor any aggression toward us. My small children often run & play with pretzel in the backyard & we have never felt we needed to be concerned. I find it extremely hard to believe that such a loving, obedient, fun dog would hurt another dog in malice when she has had so many dog interactions in her 2 years of life! Also, biting or mouthing of ears is an act of dominance, my dogs often do this to each other during play. Sounds a bit ridiculous to claim she is a dangerous dog!
Pretzel is far from a “dangerous” dog. I’ve never seen her do any harm to anyone or any dog, and nor do I see any potentials. She is nothing more than a big lovely and friendly girl who greeted me with a kiss the first time I met her (how she would greet many others if allowed). She’s also the most intelligent and well trained dog who follows basically every instruction given. What a joke.
This is a joke! If a German Shepherd bit a dog out of aggression there would be more than a bit of dried blood on the ear. I'm so sick of dogs being declared guilty without a propper investigation. Anyone that knows dogs would know this dog is clearly NOT dangerous!
Brisbane City Council need to start fining the people who make frivolous and vexatious complaints rather than penalising poor animals like Pretzel. Pretzel is definitely not hurting anyone; dog or human, and to put her into a position where she has to be muzzled and live in a confined environment is beyond cruel *for an incident that didn’t occur*.
Pretzel is well-trained and very intelligent. She's full of energy and loves to play and be around people. She is not a dangerous dog although sometimes she likes to play rough but that is just their nature. All you have to do is to tell her is to stop and she will oblige because she can understand your commands so well. She's amazing and the most adorable German Shepherd you'll ever meet. Before doing anything, go and spend an afternoon with her. You'll love her and understand why this complaint against her is unjust.
Ridiculous- I took have a GSD and we are automatically to blame when it's often little dogs that attack us! Good luck
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Hi All!
I need your help to sign this petition to ensure that Pretzel does not become "declared" meaning the council will deem her as a danger to other dogs and humans. I find this all very amusing and most of those that know Pretzel will also find this rather absurd. However the council have said that if I do not dispute this then they will declare pretzel a dangerous beast, which will mean muzzling her in public, paying hefty dangerous dog registration fees and so on. I find all of this appalling even after the visit from the council where they were introduced to Pretzel and she greeted him with a kiss then was laying down for the next 20 minutes whilst he told me that he thought he had the wrong house!! I thought they would have some common sense and cancel this action, but alas here I am.
(added 12/19/2019) please see bottom of page for links to videos of pretzel with dogs and kids.
On the 27th of September I was playing with my dog Pretzel a mere meter from the back of my own property as I have been doing without issue for the past 2 years. The back of my house backs up to a vacant area of land where dogs often play off leash. We always get people walking their dogs through this lot so people are fully aware of any presence of animals or humans here and can clearly identify that I occasionally play with my dog off leash behind my house. Myself and Pretzel are fairly well known in the local vicinity.
On this occasion a couple that live across the road from me were walking their pet poodle straight into the vicinity where I was playing with Pretzel, they could see my dog and they had previously interacted with my dog and even had my dog in their own house when she got out one day. They were under the impression all was OK to walk into our direct vicinity. So in this instance they knew they were approaching an unrestrained dog which was not an issue to them and there was no fear in doing so. Because there were never previous signs of any aggression from my dog.
Pretzel ran over to the other dog and interacted as dogs do initially and in this instance play turned rough which is quite normal for dogs and by no means was it an "attack" or causing fear to any humans.
The male person walking the dog separated the dogs and it all was over in a matter of seconds. I did ask the owners if their dog was OK but they ignored me and continued walking their poodle down the road.
From my experiences of taking Pretzel to various dog parks for the past two years, what occurred here is nothing out of the ordinary that wouldn't happen every day in a dog park. I have been on the receiving end a number of times where it is usually other owners asking if my dog is Ok because of various types of rough play. Dogs will be dogs, rough play is normal. We could go into plenty of definitions and studies of how dogs interact and what is a normal interaction vs an attack to understand that this was not an aggressive dog attack. When dogs attack they lose all sense of reality and kill other dogs, they don't nibble on ears. If my dog did bite the poodles ear we can read here that it is not deemed a serious attack. "Dogs who bite at other dogs’ faces or ears are angry, but not usually serious about causing damage" REF: https://paws4udogs.wordpress.com/2015/05/26/dog-dog-aggression-between-housemates-part-two-bites/
The owners returned (20-30) minutes later (we were still playing) and asked me to come look at their dogs ear and blatantly told me that I should pay their vets bill. I said no as they initially ignored me and told them that I wasn't interested. If they had acknowledged me straight after the dogs were separated I would have happily obliged to inspect and assist, however both parties argued with me telling me that I must pay their vet bill or they would report me to the council. (So here we are)
They both walked away from me but were still in my vicinity talking to each other trying to figure out how they wanted to deal with the situation, so I did decide approach them to have a look at the dogs ear and visually I saw nothing but a scratch of dried up blood, far from an attack in my opinion (if it was my dog at all). If it was an actual dog attack there would have no doubt been a puncture to the ear or worse. A German Shepherd has a bite force of 238 pounds. If this was an attack the delicate ear tissue of a dog would have punctured or ripped off. If it was an attack the dog would have gone for the legs or throat rather than an ear.
Keep in mind that in the initial instance of the dogs separation neither of us knew that anything was wrong until 20-30 minutes later after their walk. They happily walked off without acknowledging me and I continued to play with my dog. If it was an actual attack would the dog and owners have walked off calmly without saying a word to me? Once someone or something is attacked they usually take action immediately not 30 minutes later.
It is also a fact that I do not know if another dog attacked them along their route or something happened to the ear whilst they were not in my vicinity? Neither party witnessed any damage immediately after the attack and there was a long period where we did not have any visual contact with each other. The ear was not visibly bleeding at this time, there was no indication of injury. The owners ignored me after the dogs were separated and I verbally asked them if their dog was ok. I did not receive a response.
There are up to 10-20 dogs every day walking via billan st and the vacant land block behind my house from morning to evening, leashed and off-leash. We often have dogs escaping, so it's not out of the question that it was perhaps another dog or cat that did this to the poodles ear (skin on that part of a dogs body is very superficial and there are a number of ways for it to be damaged)
Facts:
1. Pretzel is a 2 year old German Shepherd (with police pedigree background) She is highly intelligent and motivated and can perform a range of tricks, she normally listens but she is still 2 years old (puppy phase)
2. Pretzel is well known at the local dog parks. I am hoping to get some of her fans to sign this petition so I can submit to council. Pretzel has NEVER been involved in any incident since her birth, we often visit multiple dog parks and public places.
3. Pretzel has never attacked a person and has 0 aggression to people entering my property, she jumps on them to play.
4. Pretzel has never attacked another dog
5. Pretzel has stayed with over 10 different humans and animals whilst I have been away (I will ask them to sign this petition) - Can provide photo evidence and booking evidence of stays and website reviews.
6. Pretzel has her own Instagram where you can see her interacting with other dogs (@pretzthegermanshepherd) https://www.instagram.com/pretzthegermanshepherd/
7. Pretzel regular visits Bunnings (Cannon Hill)
8. The complainant was not suggesting reporting Pretzel for an attack initially they were upset that I refused to pay their vets bill (before they had even gone to the vet) So this report is simply out of spite for my reaction when they approached me 30 minutes later about their dogs ear.
9. The complainant lives across the road from me, they often walk behind my house with their dog, very close to my fence to make Pretzel bark. They could easily avoid walking behind my property.
10. The complainant has had Pretzel in their house playing with their dog previously for half a day or more.
11. I can provide a veterinary or professional opinion on Pretzels behavior or aggression levels. Pretzel is known by 2 local vets.
12. Pretzel has attended puppy school that can also provide a professional opinion.
13. Pretzel volunteers with children\adults at the wesley hospital at chermside (can provide a written reference)
For the council:
Pretzel will not be off leash in my back yard/vacant lot area any more so prevent anything like this occurring again
Please do not deem her to be dangerous as this would seriously disadvantage her lifestyle and mine. Pretzel does not deserve or require to be muzzled in public, we do not need to put more fear into people especially if the dog is no threat. Everyone adores this dog!
I can honestly say that I do not know if Pretzel caused the damage to her ear as it was not evident until 30 minutes later
No one can prove that it was Pretzel as the complainant left the scene for 30 minutes
Pretzel has caused no harm during her stays at other peoples places, with other peoples animals, dog parks or dog schools.
There is not sufficient grounds or evidence to declare her dangerous.
Here is some video footage from today 12/19/2019 of Pretzels interactions with dogs and kids at a local dog park: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_vCUm5ERnvmJyT7mewSQUw
Ryan.
Updates
December 18, 2019
I really cannot believe how many people have jumped on this to defend Pretzel because she is clearly just a sweetheart and not remotely a dangerous dog. Seeing all this backing makes me feel so much better since the council visit was honestly the most bizarre afternoon of my life. I am going to make sure they see this because there is no way they can call her a threat now.
18 Comments
I’ve known Pretzel since a puppy. Pretzel is so clever and disciplined . I have never experience Pretzel exhibiting any antisocial or aggressive behavior for as long as I’ve known her.
I’m signing this petition as I have cared for pretzel for 6 days in a row! I myself have a small dog and also had a large dog at the time. I had no issues with Pretzel at all. All dogs, myself and my mother had no issues with Pretzel. She is the most lovely dog too have around and I’m happy too look after her again at anytime. Even the dog next was barking an growling at pretzel (apparently he doesn’t like darker dogs). Pretzel just walked away with not a bother. Therefore, to me this is a Ridiculous petition and not warranted for pretzel in anyway. Thank you Laura Creswell
I have known Pretzel since the day Ryan got her & have had my dachshunds (even as puppies) around her several times. We have never had an issue with any aggression during play, nor any aggression toward us. My small children often run & play with pretzel in the backyard & we have never felt we needed to be concerned. I find it extremely hard to believe that such a loving, obedient, fun dog would hurt another dog in malice when she has had so many dog interactions in her 2 years of life! Also, biting or mouthing of ears is an act of dominance, my dogs often do this to each other during play. Sounds a bit ridiculous to claim she is a dangerous dog!
Pretzel is far from a “dangerous” dog. I’ve never seen her do any harm to anyone or any dog, and nor do I see any potentials. She is nothing more than a big lovely and friendly girl who greeted me with a kiss the first time I met her (how she would greet many others if allowed). She’s also the most intelligent and well trained dog who follows basically every instruction given. What a joke.
This is a joke! If a German Shepherd bit a dog out of aggression there would be more than a bit of dried blood on the ear. I'm so sick of dogs being declared guilty without a propper investigation. Anyone that knows dogs would know this dog is clearly NOT dangerous!
Brisbane City Council need to start fining the people who make frivolous and vexatious complaints rather than penalising poor animals like Pretzel. Pretzel is definitely not hurting anyone; dog or human, and to put her into a position where she has to be muzzled and live in a confined environment is beyond cruel *for an incident that didn’t occur*.
Pretzel is well-trained and very intelligent. She's full of energy and loves to play and be around people. She is not a dangerous dog although sometimes she likes to play rough but that is just their nature. All you have to do is to tell her is to stop and she will oblige because she can understand your commands so well. She's amazing and the most adorable German Shepherd you'll ever meet. Before doing anything, go and spend an afternoon with her. You'll love her and understand why this complaint against her is unjust.
Ridiculous- I took have a GSD and we are automatically to blame when it's often little dogs that attack us! Good luck
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I’ve known Pretzel since a puppy. Pretzel is so clever and disciplined . I have never experience Pretzel exhibiting any antisocial or aggressive behavior for as long as I’ve known her.