The Nursery provides a needed service to the local community and should be retained.
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Sarod Yad
12 years ago
It seems as if the dance group and the association members have other plans for the building, maybe and this has been suggested that a local singing and dance business see the building as somewhere to relocate and come together with mutual businesses. They might feel that the nursery is in the way. Councillor gillies has a singing tuition business and her daughter a dance class, would be understandable to assume this could be the case. But as said before how many parents will be able to afford these extra classes if they are not working, because they have no local childcare
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James Bentley
12 years ago
My Little boy goes to Broadoaks Nursery which is a great little NURSERY within the Community. It provides a great starting block for Children pre school at a very cost effective level, this no doubt would change with an increase in rent to the proprietor. What plans do the association have that is making them sign an unfair agreement or an increase in rent! As far as I can see the association hasn't spent any reasonable level of money on the centre so does is the proposed increase being used to find this! Everybody understands things cost money but when an unjust proposal is submitted which doesn't carry reasonable grounds then people will oppose it! Why can't the community hall organisation work with Broadoaks to come to a sensible arrangement that suits both parties rather than a power happy committee dictating how it's going to be going forward?? Ultimately the parents will pay for this hike as Broadoaks has no other option other than increase it's prices to supplement the increase, potentially loosing business and putting good highly trained Nursery Staff out if a job...!! I suggest the community organisation gives great consideration to some of these points
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ian thomasson
12 years ago
surely these children are part of the community?
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colleen thornley
12 years ago
Yes I agree, all we need to do is discuss things. The nursery is open to discussion, name anytime and any venue, we are keen to talk
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czeslawa Manifold
12 years ago
A good and valued community facility like this should not be scrapped
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colleen thornley
12 years ago
This was in February concerning the safety of the dance floor, no report was found or shown to us. In August we were fed up of waiting so we paid for a structural survey which found the ceiling/ dance floor not strong enough for the purpose of dance.
Why did the committee have another test done if it had already been tested as stated by jean gillies?
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colleen thornley
12 years ago
It is my understanding that the agreement has just been put on hold until the investigation has taken place. As I understand it was someone from the NHS that where in the Nursery premises at the time when Zumba was taking place.
I have advised the Council regarding an inspection that took place by a construction engineer that I was party to and therefore I understand that this has to be confirmed. I have had sight of the letter that Shelley has sent to you and I understand that this is only an extension while this is sorted, and I do not think the committee mean that the offer is not there but in fact they are just concerned regarding the complaint and any damage it would cause to the room below which of course is the Nursery and they have an obligation to look into these complaints.
Dawn Lythgoe is as I understand no longer dealing with the centre and is off until next week.
I have advised you on many occasion that if you have any problems what so ever or concerns to please contact me.
As the lessee the Committee has a legal obligation to investigate any complaints and after being contacted by Shelley regarding the complaint I am getting her the answers so Shelley can go to committee with it. I understand that this complaint needs to be resolved as the Nursery are under the room and therefore the safety aspects of this need to addressed.
I have already asked for details of the complaint and I am dealing with it from this end, but ultimately the committee make the decision regarding the room hire and how they wish to proceed.
Please contact with any further requests and information that you require.
Kind regards
Cllr Gillies
Farnworth Ward
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colleen thornley
12 years ago
we had a visit from Ofsted last year with a list of issues raised by another department. The list referred to things within the nursery room and outside area's. When I informed Jean Gillies about the visit, she seemed to misunderstand and replied stating it was unusual for Ofsted to divulge where complaints had come from. Not what I said to her, so not sure why I got the reply that I did but no complaint was logged and the Ofsted inspector was more than happy with our provision
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Hannah Clark
12 years ago
would be a huge loss to the the community if it went. Great enviroment created by the employees
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Hannah Clark
12 years ago
great nursery, lovely & respectful staff that create a great environment for children & their parents. It will be a huge loss in the community if
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colleen thornley
12 years ago
This is how it as been all along. We and the children and families of the area are just being held to ransom, they wont discuss the opportunity of funding for two year old children, until we sign an agreement without any compromise. They think the only way to serve the community is by putting on an occasional fun day. They don'
t see that the nursery is a community service, its just all so ignorant. We wanted to discuss getting permission to buy and install a portakabin for extra space, they just not open to discussion
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nicola isherwood
12 years ago
cant belive they want to close the nursery its very sad my son spent atleast 3 yrs there he loved it.
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Mr Heathcote
12 years ago
We won't block you for trying to talk about things and stick to facts
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Mr Heathcote
12 years ago
I have seen comments on some people's social media that this petition is part of a hate campaign against a few people? This is an open petition for EVERYBODY to comment...
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Mr Heathcote
12 years ago
It would be nice. From our position we are thinking about the children we care for of the community.. this is why we want to stay. I wanted to also help a wider community by being on the committee but this was taken away from me by the HHCA.... i would love to be able to sit down and sort this out.
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Victoria kilroy
12 years ago
At the end of the day its all he said this...she said that. Do you not all think its about time you all got together like adults to sort all this out. Put any personal differences aside and start doing what's right for the community and children's welfare. The children are settled at their nursery and any nursery is a great part of any community so why close it. I think a meeting needs to be called to discuss all this. But like I said personal differences should not come in to it. Just think about the children and the community.
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colleen thornley
12 years ago
This is the best I could do to share Highfield not being open to discussion. One question was are you a parent of a child at nursery. Well dam right he was, it is same old, same old "we are beyond reproach" attitude. If you believe you are in the right, then you would be determined to argue your side, they are obviously not
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colleen thornley
12 years ago
eems the highfield community centre is just run as a family business and benefits just the committee and noboby else.
about an hour ago
Highfield Hall Community Centre Yes, from what is being said it appears that way. What we do for the community tells another story. I would advise against listening to rumours.
about an hour ago
Mark Penson So is it a rumour that some or all of the committee have business interests in the dance activities at the centre?
about an hour ago
Highfield Hall Community Centre None of the committee members own a business at the centre. Melissa owns Angels Tony has no part in voting and has declared an interest when it comes to Angels, I am assuming this is the committee member you are asking about.
about an hour ago
Mark Penson I've no knowledge of who the the members are, but the question of business interests, does the committee have indirect connections, I.e family members involved in the dance classes?
46 minutes ago
Highfield Hall Community Centre If your implying my children attending Angels yes they do attend,my children also attended BroadOaks nursery when I was first voted on as chair, does your child attend Broadoaks nursery?
40 minutes ago
Colleen Thornley Wouldn't it be a good idea to allow all user groups to have representative committee member, its in there interest to support and help the centre improve?
40 minutes ago
Colleen Thornley But it is true to say that most of the committee members are members of Angels dance or related to Angels Dance. Other than the association employee and the treasurer
38 minutes ago
Colleen Thornley And isn't it fair to say that the employee would have to be a little careful about going against any of her employers wishes
37 minutes ago
Colleen Thornley One last point, do the members of the dance understand that a member from the nhs actually complained about the ceiling and its safety. The nursery did not make any complaint
34 minutes ago
Bolton Nurseries Broad Oaks nursery
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colleen thornley
12 years ago
Bolton Nurseries
I have been blocked from posting on a page i created Highfield Hall Community Centre don't like a debate on a public page?
The Nursery provides a needed service to the local community and should be retained.
It seems as if the dance group and the association members have other plans for the building, maybe and this has been suggested that a local singing and dance business see the building as somewhere to relocate and come together with mutual businesses. They might feel that the nursery is in the way. Councillor gillies has a singing tuition business and her daughter a dance class, would be understandable to assume this could be the case. But as said before how many parents will be able to afford these extra classes if they are not working, because they have no local childcare
My Little boy goes to Broadoaks Nursery which is a great little NURSERY within the Community. It provides a great starting block for Children pre school at a very cost effective level, this no doubt would change with an increase in rent to the proprietor. What plans do the association have that is making them sign an unfair agreement or an increase in rent! As far as I can see the association hasn't spent any reasonable level of money on the centre so does is the proposed increase being used to find this! Everybody understands things cost money but when an unjust proposal is submitted which doesn't carry reasonable grounds then people will oppose it! Why can't the community hall organisation work with Broadoaks to come to a sensible arrangement that suits both parties rather than a power happy committee dictating how it's going to be going forward?? Ultimately the parents will pay for this hike as Broadoaks has no other option other than increase it's prices to supplement the increase, potentially loosing business and putting good highly trained Nursery Staff out if a job...!! I suggest the community organisation gives great consideration to some of these points
surely these children are part of the community?
Yes I agree, all we need to do is discuss things. The nursery is open to discussion, name anytime and any venue, we are keen to talk
A good and valued community facility like this should not be scrapped
This was in February concerning the safety of the dance floor, no report was found or shown to us. In August we were fed up of waiting so we paid for a structural survey which found the ceiling/ dance floor not strong enough for the purpose of dance. Why did the committee have another test done if it had already been tested as stated by jean gillies?
It is my understanding that the agreement has just been put on hold until the investigation has taken place. As I understand it was someone from the NHS that where in the Nursery premises at the time when Zumba was taking place. I have advised the Council regarding an inspection that took place by a construction engineer that I was party to and therefore I understand that this has to be confirmed. I have had sight of the letter that Shelley has sent to you and I understand that this is only an extension while this is sorted, and I do not think the committee mean that the offer is not there but in fact they are just concerned regarding the complaint and any damage it would cause to the room below which of course is the Nursery and they have an obligation to look into these complaints. Dawn Lythgoe is as I understand no longer dealing with the centre and is off until next week. I have advised you on many occasion that if you have any problems what so ever or concerns to please contact me. As the lessee the Committee has a legal obligation to investigate any complaints and after being contacted by Shelley regarding the complaint I am getting her the answers so Shelley can go to committee with it. I understand that this complaint needs to be resolved as the Nursery are under the room and therefore the safety aspects of this need to addressed. I have already asked for details of the complaint and I am dealing with it from this end, but ultimately the committee make the decision regarding the room hire and how they wish to proceed. Please contact with any further requests and information that you require. Kind regards Cllr Gillies Farnworth Ward
we had a visit from Ofsted last year with a list of issues raised by another department. The list referred to things within the nursery room and outside area's. When I informed Jean Gillies about the visit, she seemed to misunderstand and replied stating it was unusual for Ofsted to divulge where complaints had come from. Not what I said to her, so not sure why I got the reply that I did but no complaint was logged and the Ofsted inspector was more than happy with our provision
would be a huge loss to the the community if it went. Great enviroment created by the employees
great nursery, lovely & respectful staff that create a great environment for children & their parents. It will be a huge loss in the community if
This is how it as been all along. We and the children and families of the area are just being held to ransom, they wont discuss the opportunity of funding for two year old children, until we sign an agreement without any compromise. They think the only way to serve the community is by putting on an occasional fun day. They don' t see that the nursery is a community service, its just all so ignorant. We wanted to discuss getting permission to buy and install a portakabin for extra space, they just not open to discussion
cant belive they want to close the nursery its very sad my son spent atleast 3 yrs there he loved it.
We won't block you for trying to talk about things and stick to facts
I have seen comments on some people's social media that this petition is part of a hate campaign against a few people? This is an open petition for EVERYBODY to comment...
It would be nice. From our position we are thinking about the children we care for of the community.. this is why we want to stay. I wanted to also help a wider community by being on the committee but this was taken away from me by the HHCA.... i would love to be able to sit down and sort this out.
At the end of the day its all he said this...she said that. Do you not all think its about time you all got together like adults to sort all this out. Put any personal differences aside and start doing what's right for the community and children's welfare. The children are settled at their nursery and any nursery is a great part of any community so why close it. I think a meeting needs to be called to discuss all this. But like I said personal differences should not come in to it. Just think about the children and the community.
This is the best I could do to share Highfield not being open to discussion. One question was are you a parent of a child at nursery. Well dam right he was, it is same old, same old "we are beyond reproach" attitude. If you believe you are in the right, then you would be determined to argue your side, they are obviously not
eems the highfield community centre is just run as a family business and benefits just the committee and noboby else. about an hour ago Highfield Hall Community Centre Yes, from what is being said it appears that way. What we do for the community tells another story. I would advise against listening to rumours. about an hour ago Mark Penson So is it a rumour that some or all of the committee have business interests in the dance activities at the centre? about an hour ago Highfield Hall Community Centre None of the committee members own a business at the centre. Melissa owns Angels Tony has no part in voting and has declared an interest when it comes to Angels, I am assuming this is the committee member you are asking about. about an hour ago Mark Penson I've no knowledge of who the the members are, but the question of business interests, does the committee have indirect connections, I.e family members involved in the dance classes? 46 minutes ago Highfield Hall Community Centre If your implying my children attending Angels yes they do attend,my children also attended BroadOaks nursery when I was first voted on as chair, does your child attend Broadoaks nursery? 40 minutes ago Colleen Thornley Wouldn't it be a good idea to allow all user groups to have representative committee member, its in there interest to support and help the centre improve? 40 minutes ago Colleen Thornley But it is true to say that most of the committee members are members of Angels dance or related to Angels Dance. Other than the association employee and the treasurer 38 minutes ago Colleen Thornley And isn't it fair to say that the employee would have to be a little careful about going against any of her employers wishes 37 minutes ago Colleen Thornley One last point, do the members of the dance understand that a member from the nhs actually complained about the ceiling and its safety. The nursery did not make any complaint 34 minutes ago Bolton Nurseries Broad Oaks nursery
Bolton Nurseries I have been blocked from posting on a page i created Highfield Hall Community Centre don't like a debate on a public page?