I have never seen a wide field of fire present any safety challenges at matches anywhere in Phoenix. It is, in fact, a requirement in modern, competitive stage design and putting non-standard limitations on this would handicap the division and remove Ben Avery from being a competitive draw for the sport. Cactus Match league had a long history of safety and responsibility. I would argue that they should be allowed to continue that tradition for the benefit of Arizonans and the the legacy of Arizona Game and Fish in promoting the shooting sports. -- Michael Novack
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vince pesuti
10 years ago
All the other ranges we go shoot at let you no worries
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David A. Ramsay
10 years ago
I have shot about 100 wide field 3 Gun matches all over the west including the monthly match at the Usery Sportsmen's Range. The matches are very safe for the shooter, spectators a people in the area.
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Comson Chen
10 years ago
I agree that wide field should be allowed in the practical bays.
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Anonymous
10 years ago
Competitve shooters are far more safe an most hunters and have more skills than your scerage street cop. Ben Avery's existence has been funded over the years by USPSA and now 3gun.
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Michael Mayfield
10 years ago
I'm also a Match Director for a user group with BASF and thoroughly agree that wide field of fire is both safe and necessary to greatly expand the function and quality of the matches that we are able to run at this facility.
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Ryan Pytlewski
10 years ago
180 degree field of fire is definitely necessary.
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Dimitrios J Petrou
10 years ago
It's safer than driving your car.....
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Rick Cesak
10 years ago
I shoot into the side berms all the time at events.... This should be a non issue... BigGunner81.com
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austin helle
10 years ago
As a combat and competitive shooter, I can safely assert that the only thing dangerous about utilizing a full 180 degree dynamic course of fire is how much fun it is. Safety protocols have been in place since the begin to ensure shooters safety during any course of fire, the shooters position in no way changes this.
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Joseph Guthrie
10 years ago
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I've shot over 150 practical, "wide field" matches in both bays and in open terrain in the past 4 years at 25 different shooting clubs in 14 different states all across the country.
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Jeff Snope
10 years ago
Action shooting is extremely safe. I have never been to a match where a round has gone over the berm and left the range.
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Anonymous
10 years ago
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Ben Avery is the only range I've ever shot at that does not allow rounds to hit the side burm. It effects the quality of the matches and the attendance suffers because of it.
Many ranges have shorter burns and do not have problems with shooting a full 180 degrees.
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Tommy Thacker
10 years ago
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180 degree course of fire and side impact areas on flat berm ranges is commonplace. I shoot 25 major events per year as a professional action shooter and have never witnessed an accident from this practice. In most cases it is much safer than trying to run a course of fire directly away from a fixed firing line.
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Mark Chesnut
10 years ago
180-degree field of fire should not be considered a safety issue. I've seen it done safely at 3-gun matches around the country, and we have done it at our local matches for many years. Competitive shooters, under the direction of an RO, are among the safest shooters in the world.
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Mo Shaw
10 years ago
I compete nationally sit as the Co-Chair of the safety committee and I am a NRA CRSO. That being said the ability to shoot laterally is a necessity for dynamic shooting sports and when executed properly is safe.
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Mike Whitesides
10 years ago
The rise of competitive Shooting Sports is not only because of how fun and fullfilling the sport it is but because of the high level of safety exhibited by match directors range officers and competitors. The adherence to rules and safety are the first priority. I witness any injury due to a safety violation. We shoot up to 180 degree regularly with over 75 Shooters at each of our events.
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John Gilbert
10 years ago
The concerns of shooting into the side berms at BASF appears not to have been based on experience but to be based on perceptions. From the experiences of shooters and match directors from across the country the evidence appears to suggest that the safety concerns are over emphasized.
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Rob Potter
10 years ago
3-gun RO and Match director 180 degree shooting has never caused a legitimate safety issue in my experience.
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I have never seen a wide field of fire present any safety challenges at matches anywhere in Phoenix. It is, in fact, a requirement in modern, competitive stage design and putting non-standard limitations on this would handicap the division and remove Ben Avery from being a competitive draw for the sport. Cactus Match league had a long history of safety and responsibility. I would argue that they should be allowed to continue that tradition for the benefit of Arizonans and the the legacy of Arizona Game and Fish in promoting the shooting sports. -- Michael Novack
All the other ranges we go shoot at let you no worries
I have shot about 100 wide field 3 Gun matches all over the west including the monthly match at the Usery Sportsmen's Range. The matches are very safe for the shooter, spectators a people in the area.
I agree that wide field should be allowed in the practical bays.
Competitve shooters are far more safe an most hunters and have more skills than your scerage street cop. Ben Avery's existence has been funded over the years by USPSA and now 3gun.
I'm also a Match Director for a user group with BASF and thoroughly agree that wide field of fire is both safe and necessary to greatly expand the function and quality of the matches that we are able to run at this facility.
180 degree field of fire is definitely necessary.
It's safer than driving your car.....
I shoot into the side berms all the time at events.... This should be a non issue... BigGunner81.com
As a combat and competitive shooter, I can safely assert that the only thing dangerous about utilizing a full 180 degree dynamic course of fire is how much fun it is. Safety protocols have been in place since the begin to ensure shooters safety during any course of fire, the shooters position in no way changes this.
I've shot over 150 practical, "wide field" matches in both bays and in open terrain in the past 4 years at 25 different shooting clubs in 14 different states all across the country.
Action shooting is extremely safe. I have never been to a match where a round has gone over the berm and left the range.
Ben Avery is the only range I've ever shot at that does not allow rounds to hit the side burm. It effects the quality of the matches and the attendance suffers because of it. Many ranges have shorter burns and do not have problems with shooting a full 180 degrees.
180 degree course of fire and side impact areas on flat berm ranges is commonplace. I shoot 25 major events per year as a professional action shooter and have never witnessed an accident from this practice. In most cases it is much safer than trying to run a course of fire directly away from a fixed firing line.
180-degree field of fire should not be considered a safety issue. I've seen it done safely at 3-gun matches around the country, and we have done it at our local matches for many years. Competitive shooters, under the direction of an RO, are among the safest shooters in the world.
I compete nationally sit as the Co-Chair of the safety committee and I am a NRA CRSO. That being said the ability to shoot laterally is a necessity for dynamic shooting sports and when executed properly is safe.
The rise of competitive Shooting Sports is not only because of how fun and fullfilling the sport it is but because of the high level of safety exhibited by match directors range officers and competitors. The adherence to rules and safety are the first priority. I witness any injury due to a safety violation. We shoot up to 180 degree regularly with over 75 Shooters at each of our events.
The concerns of shooting into the side berms at BASF appears not to have been based on experience but to be based on perceptions. From the experiences of shooters and match directors from across the country the evidence appears to suggest that the safety concerns are over emphasized.
3-gun RO and Match director 180 degree shooting has never caused a legitimate safety issue in my experience.