Ban Easter Monday Whipping and Water-pouring of women in the European Union. Save millions of women from this inappropriate tradition.
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Martin Emil
6 years ago
The only problem with your argument is that it is based on (ill-informed) belief that this tradition is as you said "socially disturbing", and that it is violent towards women. Which I don't blame you for given all the media madness that always shows the man-woman relationship as a persecutor-victim one. You seem to be a victim of that lie.
If you have ever experienced this tradition or at least talked to different Slavic women and men, you would not have said that. The quick google search will tell you that the purpose of the Oblievačka is to make a girl healthy, pretty and fertile (scientific nonsense obviously). Nothing more! Now if you are a violent person you will do it with buckets of ice cold water even if the girl is clearly suffering. If you are a normal man you will do it with couple drops of lukewarm water or just with a perfume. Many girls require (!!) that you do it with a big bucket of water and are disappointed if you don't or even if you don't visit them! Myself with my brothers would have a small (500ml) bottle which I transformed into a water-gun and lasted me for the whole day (3-5) visits of my cousins, aunts and friends.
Your final remark comparing this tradition to believing in "flat earth" is ridiculous. You would have to ban all the religions just because they have no scientific sense. That is the whole point of a tradition, it doesn't have any logic or or scientific sense! It is a way of remembering where we come from, remembering our past and to socialize with our family and neighbors today. The fact that it can turn violent is not a fault of the tradition, but of the violent person! You choose what you do with a knife - you can hurt somebody, or you can cook a delicious meal for somebody you love. That is the WHY you talked about. And that's why we don't ban knives in Slovakia, we "ban" the assassins and that's why we will not ban this tradition either.
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Martin Emil
6 years ago
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Prepacte Lucia ale zda sa mi, ze "premietate" vasu vlastnu subjektivnu skusenost na cele narody, kde tato tradicia uz storocia funguje. Ako ste napisala "can be severely detrimental to both female physical and mental well-being immediately and into the future and might project women as obedient subordinates." Bolo vam fyzicky ublizene? Mate psychicke nasledky z olievacky? Ak ano, preco si myslite ze to tak bolo aj v ostatnych milionov pripadov na celom svete?
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Martin Emil
6 years ago
You have never heard about this, yet you are quick to have an opinion about it based on one primitive article. Why don't you do some research about this centuries-long tradition and speak to both women and men who lived it and actually KNOW something about it. You then might be very surprised to hear their responses.
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Martin Emil
6 years ago
Yes, we need more restrictions, bans and fines. No touching, hugging nor shaking hands. Everybody locked up in their apartments glued to their HD flat screen! Viva la revolucion!!!!
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Martin Emil
6 years ago
Tessa, what the article (intentionally) fails to mention is that on the following day it is the women who do the same to men. I guess that you will classify that as a women empowerment, rather than a violence towards the men. Am I right?
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Martin Emil
6 years ago
Well, well, well. What do we have here? Westerners who have long lost their traditions trying to force the other cultures to get rid of theirs! Dear British and Americans, I know it must be hard to live in your sterile world, where the only real tradition is shopping, consuming and watching TV, but don't project your frustrations onto us. Don't import your sick neomarxist ideologies to our countries! Just look at your crime, rape and general violence statistics. Clean up your own mess and leave the others alone. No one asked for your ill-informed opinions.
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Brahim Seba
6 years ago
feminism has not killed nobody.
unfortunately this is not the case with machismo.
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Stanislav Vasil
6 years ago
I'm also wondering, if the woman who created this petition, cared about women in Middle East for being stoned to death, for being raped. Or if she's against a Female Genital Mutilation. Or any other Really worrying things which really are a danger to women! Does she have a petition for those too?
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Stanislav Vasil
6 years ago
Look at these comments. Only people who have no idea about this tradition are commenting. Don't be sheeple guys...read before you give in to someone's idea. 55mil women...wondering where she got this number from. Lol. This tradition is a celebration of Jesus's resurrection and women (who were washing clothes in a river) were splashing water all over themselves from happiness, when they saw him.
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Gui
6 years ago
Absolutely unacceptable
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Anonymous
6 years ago
Another reason we needed BREXIT.
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Omiros Sarikas
6 years ago
I appreciate and respect this is a “tradition” in some parts of Europe and some people actually support it. I also come to understand the practice can be a “playful” game and not always with bad intent. However, I must admit, I strongly support the petitioner and admire them for their courage to voice their opinion. One can genuinely seek to ask what lessons we teach the younger generation and what examples we provide and admire in our communities. We must always seek to understand what what we do and WHY. Otherwise we keep doing the same (wrong) things for ever. History has many sad examples of socially accepted disturbing behaviour. What do we teach are boys by encouraging them to spank girls (even as a joke) and what do we teach our girls by accepting and rewarding it? I congratulate the petitioner for thinking laterally. Once upon a time the world was flat. But it is not....We must evolve. Respectfully and without prejudice. Rerum Cognoscere Causas.
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Latto
6 years ago
Please respect woman'as human being because they have human rights.
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Juli Klubertová
6 years ago
I am so full of those feminist bullsh.ts... I mean, as an adult woman I must say, this petition is a shame of woman logic. Really. This is a tradition from slavic culture. You pour the water on a girl as a sign to be beautiful and healthy for the whole year. So you won't have a damn gynecologal discharge (f.e.). This petition is totally absurd and everyone who signs this, should read more about traditions and what actually feminism is (btw feminism in 21th century in Europe is totally useless, because women are totally equal to men, have the same rights and resposibilities). And if you don't want to be splashed with water and be parfumed with old lady parfume, just kocke yourself at home and watch Netflix.
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Stella gerolymatou
6 years ago
Dear lord, we need social distance!!
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Janko Hrasko
6 years ago
tak Tebe to dobre jebe!!!
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Tessa Rolink
6 years ago
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Disgusting and unacceptable, men participating in this should be legally prosecuted.
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Descours Joseph
6 years ago
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I never heard of this.
I hope my children will never hear of this except in history books.
Tradition must change or disappear when they do not respect human beings.
The only problem with your argument is that it is based on (ill-informed) belief that this tradition is as you said "socially disturbing", and that it is violent towards women. Which I don't blame you for given all the media madness that always shows the man-woman relationship as a persecutor-victim one. You seem to be a victim of that lie. If you have ever experienced this tradition or at least talked to different Slavic women and men, you would not have said that. The quick google search will tell you that the purpose of the Oblievačka is to make a girl healthy, pretty and fertile (scientific nonsense obviously). Nothing more! Now if you are a violent person you will do it with buckets of ice cold water even if the girl is clearly suffering. If you are a normal man you will do it with couple drops of lukewarm water or just with a perfume. Many girls require (!!) that you do it with a big bucket of water and are disappointed if you don't or even if you don't visit them! Myself with my brothers would have a small (500ml) bottle which I transformed into a water-gun and lasted me for the whole day (3-5) visits of my cousins, aunts and friends. Your final remark comparing this tradition to believing in "flat earth" is ridiculous. You would have to ban all the religions just because they have no scientific sense. That is the whole point of a tradition, it doesn't have any logic or or scientific sense! It is a way of remembering where we come from, remembering our past and to socialize with our family and neighbors today. The fact that it can turn violent is not a fault of the tradition, but of the violent person! You choose what you do with a knife - you can hurt somebody, or you can cook a delicious meal for somebody you love. That is the WHY you talked about. And that's why we don't ban knives in Slovakia, we "ban" the assassins and that's why we will not ban this tradition either.
Prepacte Lucia ale zda sa mi, ze "premietate" vasu vlastnu subjektivnu skusenost na cele narody, kde tato tradicia uz storocia funguje. Ako ste napisala "can be severely detrimental to both female physical and mental well-being immediately and into the future and might project women as obedient subordinates." Bolo vam fyzicky ublizene? Mate psychicke nasledky z olievacky? Ak ano, preco si myslite ze to tak bolo aj v ostatnych milionov pripadov na celom svete?
You have never heard about this, yet you are quick to have an opinion about it based on one primitive article. Why don't you do some research about this centuries-long tradition and speak to both women and men who lived it and actually KNOW something about it. You then might be very surprised to hear their responses.
Yes, we need more restrictions, bans and fines. No touching, hugging nor shaking hands. Everybody locked up in their apartments glued to their HD flat screen! Viva la revolucion!!!!
Tessa, what the article (intentionally) fails to mention is that on the following day it is the women who do the same to men. I guess that you will classify that as a women empowerment, rather than a violence towards the men. Am I right?
Well, well, well. What do we have here? Westerners who have long lost their traditions trying to force the other cultures to get rid of theirs! Dear British and Americans, I know it must be hard to live in your sterile world, where the only real tradition is shopping, consuming and watching TV, but don't project your frustrations onto us. Don't import your sick neomarxist ideologies to our countries! Just look at your crime, rape and general violence statistics. Clean up your own mess and leave the others alone. No one asked for your ill-informed opinions.
feminism has not killed nobody. unfortunately this is not the case with machismo.
I'm also wondering, if the woman who created this petition, cared about women in Middle East for being stoned to death, for being raped. Or if she's against a Female Genital Mutilation. Or any other Really worrying things which really are a danger to women! Does she have a petition for those too?
Look at these comments. Only people who have no idea about this tradition are commenting. Don't be sheeple guys...read before you give in to someone's idea. 55mil women...wondering where she got this number from. Lol. This tradition is a celebration of Jesus's resurrection and women (who were washing clothes in a river) were splashing water all over themselves from happiness, when they saw him.
Absolutely unacceptable
Another reason we needed BREXIT.
I appreciate and respect this is a “tradition” in some parts of Europe and some people actually support it. I also come to understand the practice can be a “playful” game and not always with bad intent. However, I must admit, I strongly support the petitioner and admire them for their courage to voice their opinion. One can genuinely seek to ask what lessons we teach the younger generation and what examples we provide and admire in our communities. We must always seek to understand what what we do and WHY. Otherwise we keep doing the same (wrong) things for ever. History has many sad examples of socially accepted disturbing behaviour. What do we teach are boys by encouraging them to spank girls (even as a joke) and what do we teach our girls by accepting and rewarding it? I congratulate the petitioner for thinking laterally. Once upon a time the world was flat. But it is not....We must evolve. Respectfully and without prejudice. Rerum Cognoscere Causas.
Please respect woman'as human being because they have human rights.
I am so full of those feminist bullsh.ts... I mean, as an adult woman I must say, this petition is a shame of woman logic. Really. This is a tradition from slavic culture. You pour the water on a girl as a sign to be beautiful and healthy for the whole year. So you won't have a damn gynecologal discharge (f.e.). This petition is totally absurd and everyone who signs this, should read more about traditions and what actually feminism is (btw feminism in 21th century in Europe is totally useless, because women are totally equal to men, have the same rights and resposibilities). And if you don't want to be splashed with water and be parfumed with old lady parfume, just kocke yourself at home and watch Netflix.
Dear lord, we need social distance!!
tak Tebe to dobre jebe!!!
Disgusting and unacceptable, men participating in this should be legally prosecuted.
I never heard of this. I hope my children will never hear of this except in history books. Tradition must change or disappear when they do not respect human beings.
Why is this even a tradition?