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Against the randomization of learning communites

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Sidney Erickson
6 years ago

The fact this change has been enacted and faculty are moving forward with it despite the clear disapproval of the nursing students - the people it actually affects - is disheartening. I would hope that the ASU nursing faculty would take our voices and concerns into consideration before forcing us into something. Several students have responded directly to faculty and have not had any reply. Ignoring our voices and steamrolling ahead is unprofessional and should not be the way this is handled.

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Ryland Rash
6 years ago

Nursing school is demanding. Nursing school is expensive. Nursing school is incredibly difficult. Attempting to have some semblance of a life outside of nursing school is challenging. Students are enrolled in clubs, after-school/extracurricular activities, live far from campus, some work full-time, some part-time, some students have families of their own that come with responsibilities and obligations. I, myself, work full-time on top of being a full-time student in order to provide for my wife and 1-year-old son. Before this proposed change, I was able to build my schedule in a way that permitted me to work and spend time with my family while still being able to pursue my education. This change in policy takes that from me. There is a good chance that I will be randomly assigned a schedule that is not conducive to working outside of school. I cannot take that chance. I NEED to be able to work. I have a family of my own that relies on me. This change in policy will create more issues and challenges for students than it will solve. I understand that the intentions are pure, but I fear that this will create a much larger problem than it is solving.

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Will
6 years ago

I’m not in nursing school but this is highly unfair. These people are trying to make the best of a bad situation and you are taking away the small rights they have. People plan their lives around school and you have no right to control them like this.

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Sean Jaszczur
6 years ago

This is fascist and has no place in The United States of America

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Kim Ehmann
6 years ago

Something to consider in this decision is the students who have friends they are able to carpool. Some student may not be able to afford the transportation. Building relationships is important and they are built over time, as it takes time to build trust. Most college students have choices in classes they choose students should have the option to choose.

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Anonymous
6 years ago

NO RANDOMIZATION

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Amarom
6 years ago

For nursing students and from nursing students, please do not take our choices away from us. Nursing school is difficult as is. We should be allowed to stand for ourselves and choose not only the groups we wish to be in, but our own schedules. I personally have to work to support myself through school and I have to carefully choose my schedule in order to manage work, my personal life, and school. Not to mention, I’ve already made life-long friends in my group. We understand each other on different levels. We support each other in studying, giving each other reminders, and providing overwhelming amounts of emotional support. No one understands me better. I don’t doubt I will have trouble meeting people outside of my group, but I do believe that it be difficult to find friends who have similar characteristics and desirable qualities of a successful group that I already have. We work so well with each other, and it would hurt to lose any of them. I refuse to allow our rights to be stripped away as hardworking and paying students. I feel as though it’d be different if we had known this from the beginning, but you gave us the choice first. Now we’ve found our matches and you want us to start all over. There’s just too much to lose now.

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Anonymous
6 years ago Featured

That awkward moment when you're forced to advocate for patient's autonomy but the program strips you of yours...

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Samantha Tunny
6 years ago Featured

It is not right to change the program halfway through on us, and to give no warning less than a week before registration. Having a LC you stick with throughout the program is a huge plus! We should have the option to switch or stay with our current community...like we already did. If some students want to be randomized, then let them, but everyone should not be forced to change, especially when the entire group wishes to stay together.

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Anonymous
6 years ago

I think the randomized learning communities is a bad idea, especially when they were so persistent about developing a study group. We couldn’t do that if the people were constantly changing.

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David Starr
6 years ago

This is dumb. The absolute minimum you could have done was let us know a month ago that they would be randomized schedules. Holding it until the absolute last minute is cowardice. You knew what the reaction would be because you know it's a dumb decision.

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Juan
6 years ago

I strongly disagree with the randomization of classes! This random decision to switch everything up simply because a few people don't like their group, isn't fair to those students that do appreciate theirs. Nursing school is already hard as it is, but when you create a rapport with your group that makes it a little easier. These groups help each other get through everything, from classes, clinicals and studying together to succeed in the program. This randomization not only is unfair to the students that like their groups, but also to their parents. I say that because, switching this last minute can affect the students performance in the program. This could lead to having to pay more money to retake classes or even risking the program. That usually falls into the parents hands, since they're usually the ones covering students expenses. So why risk messing everything up last minute, considering that this currents class is almost due to graduate next semester. If its not broken, why fix it. If there's groups that need a switch for their good, then their group should be switch amongs themselves. This new switch would've made sense if it was implemented at the beginning of a new graduating class,but not at the end for those graduating spring 2020. Those who want to be together should have the option to be together and those that want new groups should be randomizes amongst themselves! This random switch does more harm to the students involved, than it would benefit. The students are old enough to decide for themselves, they shouldn't be FORCE because of a few others that don't like their groups. They pay a lot of money already to to not even have the RIGHT to choose their own group, that's not right nor fair. These groups help each other motivate, push, and succeed in the program all the way to the finish line.

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Heidi Ross
6 years ago

I strongly disagree with the randomization of classes! Those who want to be together should have the option to be together and those that want new groups should be randomizes amongst themselves!

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Lauren
6 years ago

I personally think the reasoning that administration has told us for choosing our LCs for us is a bad excuse. If others felt pressured to stay in their LCs or had difficulties with their LCs, that was up to those students to change. The rest of us should not be subject to changes because of a select group of people who felt uncomfortable. As others have stated, there are many people who need to choose their LCs for various reasons. If administration had another reason for selecting our LCs for us, then things would be different, but I personally am very annoyed at the reasoning behind this. Nursing school is already stressful enough and I personally rely heavily on my friends in my LC to get through difficult tests, simulations, and labs. Please do not give us a choice in one term and then take that away in the next, this is completely unfair.

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Alexi
6 years ago

I already paid all this money to be here. Plus I work to pay to be here. It's a lose lose

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Michelle Manous
6 years ago

The program choosing our LC's for us inhibits students from building their own learning experience.

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Anonymous
6 years ago

I already sold my soul to be in this program. We should at least have the freedom to pick our own schedules, like every other ASU student.

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Anonymous
6 years ago Featured

These past semesters, we have built up a community within our LCs that fosters learning through trust, cooperation, and shared experience. Taking away our choice of who we are in an LC with will be counterproductive to the majority's quality of education. Additionally, some students live and carpool together, so this change would cause undue financial burden. Please reconsider this decision for the benefit of the students.

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Anonymous
6 years ago Featured

I joined my specific LC because we have a group of people that live within walking distance of each other so we can easily carpool to and from our clinicals together, on time, safely while alleviating financial burdens. I am financially unable to have a car so not being able to participate in this carpool would be difficult and a burden if I would not be able to ride with them. If people can't advocate for themselves to get out of a group they feel pressured to be in, then how will they advocate for their patients?

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Anonymous
6 years ago

Please let us choose our LCs! A lot of people carpool with their friends and have weekend jobs and can’t risk having weekend clinicals. This also fosters a healthy learning environment and greatly helps with the stress of nursing school. Please let us have this one choice.