Hi guys I am really seeking clarity on this one, so in a time of Pandemic and against the advice of numerous health professionals, you are having 100's of students drive in from all over the midwest to be together in rooms for consecutive days to take online tests on tablets they brought from home? For non-laboratory classes that require no contact or in person instructions? And you will be the Only local University to do so, because Mizu and KU are not taking the same chances with their student's families?
I know that Dr. Agocs the Academic Dean's response to these health concerns and disregard for CDC advice, was just that it's because he believes everyone in the student body is just a bunch of cheaters. So he is willing to drastically increase the risk ratio for all of our families and the entire local Kansas City area because he is unwilling to write a test that would be adequate enough to take open book. (Which as an educator is really quite silly considering that research has shown that open book tests vs closed book really makes little to no difference in class outcomes as sited in this Nationality recognized article https://www.npr.org/2012/12/13/167180405/open-or-closed-book-exams-which-style-works-best -Afshin Gharib associate professors of psychology at the Dominican University of California. )
Now don't get me wrong here, I get it. As a Credentialed Post-secondary Instructor of adults Myself, I know the frustration everyone is going through on both sides in this crazy time of Covid. Its tough! And so far the team at Cleveland Chiropractic College has been doing a great job of transitioning programs to keep the learning process afloat. I believe the administration as well as the students all deserve a pat on the back for dealing with the hand that has been dealt to everyone. Personally, I Love Cleveland U, my whole experience has been great! And no matter what platform the learning or testing is done on I am confident that I will do well.
However in
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Anonymous
6 years ago
This summer has been an adjustment to say the least, for both students and professors as well. Some professors have yet to come up with a organized and consistent game plan for weekly content and most students are at their maximum capacity for being understanding and showing patience in regards to classes and lack of communication. As graduate level students I believe everyone understands the consequences of cheating, whether that be dismissal or failure of boards later on. Not to mention that regardless the outcomes, we are still paying FULL tuition for half of the experience. While COVID-19 is on the verge of another large spike, this simply is not the time to test out a socially distanced campus at full capacity. At this point the cons vastly outweigh the pros of going back to campus for one week when we have already given everything/anything we have to adjust to this new ‘curriculum.’
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Mackienze Hylton
6 years ago
I’m really worried about the safety of our own health. We are in the healthcare profession but more concerned with cheating on tests than maintaining our wellness. We all know we HAVE to know the material we will see it again with all the testing we are required to take (boards, OSCEs etc.) therefore it’s OUR job as graduate level students to take this seriously.
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CUKC Alumni
6 years ago
These students are going through a tremendous amount of stress, as are every staff that must show up to proctor these exams exposing themselves to hundreds of people throughout the day (socially distanced or not). Logan is online, many other schools will remain online. In March CUKC touted about being a family friendly campus and when they know children cannot be away at camps, schools, or daycare during this time, they’re disregarding all families who must find alternate arrangements all week. This would be fine if it were under normal conditions, but we all know we are under exceptional circumstances. Some trimester 1 students have not began to move into Overland Park area because they were told they would be online, if we excuse them we must excuse everyone. The administration needs to work with the students they say they care about and accept online finals formats, the same as they did in the previous trimester without any major issues. They would be doing a disservice to the entire student body without doing so. I have nothing to gain as an alumni, but can clearly see what the right thing is. Our administration should too.
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Dustin A Scott
6 years ago
I can’t believe or acknowledge that going back to school for one week to take finals is worth the risk or spreading a deadly virus possibly to someone that’s at a higher risk. This decision seems very rational, inconsiderate, and unthoughtful.
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Christopher On
6 years ago
I personally don’t feel ready to go back with the large groups of people.
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Emily Pallesen
6 years ago
COVID-19 is real. people who have severe underlying medical conditions like heart or lung disease or diabetes seem to be at higher risk for developing more serious complications from COVID-19 illness.
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Lacy Ford
6 years ago
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It feels unfair to have finals given in person when we haven’t taken a single proctored exam in months. Furthermore, if it is safe to be on campus to have finals why isn’t it safe enough for me to come there to use resources I desperately need to study? Examples: quiet library hours, computer lab, printers, force lab, and other activities that can be done with “social distancing” that are currently not allowed.
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Alexander Walters
6 years ago
Not haveing finals online leaves to many uncontrollable variables.
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Anonymous
6 years ago
This would be dumb
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Sahira Tapia
6 years ago
Transferring of knowledge. We should test in the same conditions that we study.
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Elizabeth Fallert
6 years ago
To keep finals online
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Ethan Spore
6 years ago
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Coming to campus for finals would add tremendous amounts of stress to me during this time period. Especially since I have not moved up to the KC area due to covid reasons and being online. If I had to drive 4 hours everyday for on campus finals, this would be unfair as I would need and like to have that time to study. My plans for daycare would have to be altered and my whole daily routine would be hectic. It would add much stress, burden, and expenses to have to do that with a months notice.
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Zachary Chapman
6 years ago
It’s either good enough to have normal schedules, or it’s not. Returning to normal schedules the week before trimester break and immediately following Part I boards for the most stressful round of trimester tests is inconsiderate, to say the least.
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Jamie Campbell
6 years ago
Other states are now recommending that if you have traveled to Kansas you should self quarantine. Kansas cases are rising to reported cases as when we began the transition to online learning.
The school has not been able to adequately provide safety measures for students to be safe while on campus. Students are not properly wearing PPE and instructors or clinicians are not commenting to correct the issues.
For the safety of the students, do not hold finals on campus. Be the healthcare of the future.
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Adam Ludwin
6 years ago
I ain’t trying to catch NO RONA
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Emily Feldkamp
6 years ago
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The other day I went in for my class. There was no one there to take my temperature, make sure I was wearing a proper mask, or to sign a paper saying I had not been around anyone with COVID-19. My dad tested positive for COVID-19 last week. I have not been back home for awhile. BUT if I had been, I was able to walk into the school without signing the paper that we usually have to sign. Many other of my classmates did not have anyone there to take their temperature and sign the paper as well. So is CUKC really taking the correct measure to make sure ALL students are safe??
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Keenan Thomas
6 years ago
Not a greatest idea
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Clarissa L Busch
6 years ago
Prioritize safety over scores!!
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Anonymous
6 years ago
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I believe bringing us back to school during final exams is counterintuitive to what medical professionals are saying at this time. With cases on the rise and governments pumping the brakes on opening, and some even reversing the opening process, asking us to come back to campus seems wrong. In addition the school has not shown its proficiency in enforcing its campus policies to keep us safe. Walking through the clinic lounges on any given day you will see more students with masks of than on. I do not feel safe returning to campus
Hi guys I am really seeking clarity on this one, so in a time of Pandemic and against the advice of numerous health professionals, you are having 100's of students drive in from all over the midwest to be together in rooms for consecutive days to take online tests on tablets they brought from home? For non-laboratory classes that require no contact or in person instructions? And you will be the Only local University to do so, because Mizu and KU are not taking the same chances with their student's families? I know that Dr. Agocs the Academic Dean's response to these health concerns and disregard for CDC advice, was just that it's because he believes everyone in the student body is just a bunch of cheaters. So he is willing to drastically increase the risk ratio for all of our families and the entire local Kansas City area because he is unwilling to write a test that would be adequate enough to take open book. (Which as an educator is really quite silly considering that research has shown that open book tests vs closed book really makes little to no difference in class outcomes as sited in this Nationality recognized article https://www.npr.org/2012/12/13/167180405/open-or-closed-book-exams-which-style-works-best -Afshin Gharib associate professors of psychology at the Dominican University of California. ) Now don't get me wrong here, I get it. As a Credentialed Post-secondary Instructor of adults Myself, I know the frustration everyone is going through on both sides in this crazy time of Covid. Its tough! And so far the team at Cleveland Chiropractic College has been doing a great job of transitioning programs to keep the learning process afloat. I believe the administration as well as the students all deserve a pat on the back for dealing with the hand that has been dealt to everyone. Personally, I Love Cleveland U, my whole experience has been great! And no matter what platform the learning or testing is done on I am confident that I will do well. However in
This summer has been an adjustment to say the least, for both students and professors as well. Some professors have yet to come up with a organized and consistent game plan for weekly content and most students are at their maximum capacity for being understanding and showing patience in regards to classes and lack of communication. As graduate level students I believe everyone understands the consequences of cheating, whether that be dismissal or failure of boards later on. Not to mention that regardless the outcomes, we are still paying FULL tuition for half of the experience. While COVID-19 is on the verge of another large spike, this simply is not the time to test out a socially distanced campus at full capacity. At this point the cons vastly outweigh the pros of going back to campus for one week when we have already given everything/anything we have to adjust to this new ‘curriculum.’
I’m really worried about the safety of our own health. We are in the healthcare profession but more concerned with cheating on tests than maintaining our wellness. We all know we HAVE to know the material we will see it again with all the testing we are required to take (boards, OSCEs etc.) therefore it’s OUR job as graduate level students to take this seriously.
These students are going through a tremendous amount of stress, as are every staff that must show up to proctor these exams exposing themselves to hundreds of people throughout the day (socially distanced or not). Logan is online, many other schools will remain online. In March CUKC touted about being a family friendly campus and when they know children cannot be away at camps, schools, or daycare during this time, they’re disregarding all families who must find alternate arrangements all week. This would be fine if it were under normal conditions, but we all know we are under exceptional circumstances. Some trimester 1 students have not began to move into Overland Park area because they were told they would be online, if we excuse them we must excuse everyone. The administration needs to work with the students they say they care about and accept online finals formats, the same as they did in the previous trimester without any major issues. They would be doing a disservice to the entire student body without doing so. I have nothing to gain as an alumni, but can clearly see what the right thing is. Our administration should too.
I can’t believe or acknowledge that going back to school for one week to take finals is worth the risk or spreading a deadly virus possibly to someone that’s at a higher risk. This decision seems very rational, inconsiderate, and unthoughtful.
I personally don’t feel ready to go back with the large groups of people.
COVID-19 is real. people who have severe underlying medical conditions like heart or lung disease or diabetes seem to be at higher risk for developing more serious complications from COVID-19 illness.
It feels unfair to have finals given in person when we haven’t taken a single proctored exam in months. Furthermore, if it is safe to be on campus to have finals why isn’t it safe enough for me to come there to use resources I desperately need to study? Examples: quiet library hours, computer lab, printers, force lab, and other activities that can be done with “social distancing” that are currently not allowed.
Not haveing finals online leaves to many uncontrollable variables.
This would be dumb
Transferring of knowledge. We should test in the same conditions that we study.
To keep finals online
Coming to campus for finals would add tremendous amounts of stress to me during this time period. Especially since I have not moved up to the KC area due to covid reasons and being online. If I had to drive 4 hours everyday for on campus finals, this would be unfair as I would need and like to have that time to study. My plans for daycare would have to be altered and my whole daily routine would be hectic. It would add much stress, burden, and expenses to have to do that with a months notice.
It’s either good enough to have normal schedules, or it’s not. Returning to normal schedules the week before trimester break and immediately following Part I boards for the most stressful round of trimester tests is inconsiderate, to say the least.
Other states are now recommending that if you have traveled to Kansas you should self quarantine. Kansas cases are rising to reported cases as when we began the transition to online learning. The school has not been able to adequately provide safety measures for students to be safe while on campus. Students are not properly wearing PPE and instructors or clinicians are not commenting to correct the issues. For the safety of the students, do not hold finals on campus. Be the healthcare of the future.
I ain’t trying to catch NO RONA
The other day I went in for my class. There was no one there to take my temperature, make sure I was wearing a proper mask, or to sign a paper saying I had not been around anyone with COVID-19. My dad tested positive for COVID-19 last week. I have not been back home for awhile. BUT if I had been, I was able to walk into the school without signing the paper that we usually have to sign. Many other of my classmates did not have anyone there to take their temperature and sign the paper as well. So is CUKC really taking the correct measure to make sure ALL students are safe??
Not a greatest idea
Prioritize safety over scores!!
I believe bringing us back to school during final exams is counterintuitive to what medical professionals are saying at this time. With cases on the rise and governments pumping the brakes on opening, and some even reversing the opening process, asking us to come back to campus seems wrong. In addition the school has not shown its proficiency in enforcing its campus policies to keep us safe. Walking through the clinic lounges on any given day you will see more students with masks of than on. I do not feel safe returning to campus