we did it and the zoning board decided to uphold the decision to deny that massive house. it feels so good to know we kept the neighborhood character intact by sticking together on this.
February 17, 2016
Final supporters
Dear Town of Orangetown Zoning Board of Appeals,
We, the undersigned, are in support of the Historic Area Board of Review’s (HABR’s) decision to deny the construction of a 10,000/12,000 sq ft home located at 246 Route 9W in Palisades, N.Y.: HABR #15-15
HABR #15-15 was denied THREE times at their HABR appearances on September 8, October 13 and November 10, 2015.
The approval of THIS home, of this size (10,000/12,000 sq ft ) and height (41 ft) will set a NEW precedent of sq/footage and height of residential buildings in the Historic District.It's size EXCEEDS the long-standing, existing homes in its surrounding area and is NOT in harmony; which violates the guidelines of the Historic Area Board of Review.
Sizes of homes abutting the property:
- Hey Hoe Woods Road: range 2,000 - 3,800 sq ft
- Closter and Oak Tree Roads: range 1,500 - 3,000 sq ft (Commercial building Yonder Hill is 7,000 sq ft)
- RT 9W range: 2,000 - 5,500 sq ft
- Kopec Lane 10 homes averaging 4,400 sq ft. Two exceptions: 5,330 & 6,559 sq feet
- This house will be almost TWICE the size of the largest home and up to FOUR times the size of the average 2,500 sq ft home.
We are steadfastly against the Zoning Board of Appeals' overturn of HABR’s decision on the grounds that:
- HABR was established and charged with the responsibility to make decisions on the construction of and renovation to homes within the Historic District that protect and preserve the overall historic character and integrity of our Historic District,
- these decisions include size, appearance and harmony to neighboring residences,
- upholding the denial of HABR #15-15 benefits the historic character of ALL of Palisades AND the Town of Orangetown,
- it is agreed by HABR and the outpouring of Palisades residents that residential buildings of this immense size and mass do not belong in the Historic District of Palisades,
- and the approval of this size, sets an UNACCEPTABLE precedent in Historic Districts for future development.
If the decision by HABR to oppose the planned HABR #15-15 building is overturned, we, the undersigned, believe that it will undermine the very purpose of HABR and further erode the ability of HABR to effectively protect the overall historic character within Tappan and Palisades.
Updates
Reached 250 supporters
December 2, 2015
Reached 100 supporters
December 1, 2015
154 Comments
Historic districts exist for a reason. Homes that don't meet the guidelines have ample opportunity to build almost everywhere else. Places like Alpine abound; places like Palisades are rare. Each serves a purpose and each has its adherents. Only the HABR and Zoning Board can insure that one doesn't become the other.
HABR's decision is in keeping with Article 12-4 G of the Town Code in that "New structures are to harmonize in general character with structures built in the immediate surrounding area. " This application is clearly disharmonious.
As a former resident of Palisades, one who is aware of how recent construction has already changed the character of the community, I oppose the construction of a home that is so out of keeping with the historic nature of Palisades.
The proposed house is out of character with the rest of the Historic District. While its size may be legal, HABR was established to protect the district as-a-whole from being destroyed by over-sized buildings.
Shows just how little consideration the people building this "home" have for their neighbors and neighborhood. Not to mention what a structure that size will do to the surrounding landscape both visually and more importantly, environmentally.
Deny construction of 10,000/12,000 sq ft home locaated at 246 Route 9W in Palisades, NY HABR#15-15
please observe the hist. board of review decision to deny the construction!
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we did it and the zoning board decided to uphold the decision to deny that massive house. it feels so good to know we kept the neighborhood character intact by sticking together on this.
February 17, 2016
Final supporters
Dear Town of Orangetown Zoning Board of Appeals,
We, the undersigned, are in support of the Historic Area Board of Review’s (HABR’s) decision to deny the construction of a 10,000/12,000 sq ft home located at 246 Route 9W in Palisades, N.Y.: HABR #15-15
HABR #15-15 was denied THREE times at their HABR appearances on September 8, October 13 and November 10, 2015.
The approval of THIS home, of this size (10,000/12,000 sq ft ) and height (41 ft) will set a NEW precedent of sq/footage and height of residential buildings in the Historic District.It's size EXCEEDS the long-standing, existing homes in its surrounding area and is NOT in harmony; which violates the guidelines of the Historic Area Board of Review.
Sizes of homes abutting the property:
- Hey Hoe Woods Road: range 2,000 - 3,800 sq ft
- Closter and Oak Tree Roads: range 1,500 - 3,000 sq ft (Commercial building Yonder Hill is 7,000 sq ft)
- RT 9W range: 2,000 - 5,500 sq ft
- Kopec Lane 10 homes averaging 4,400 sq ft. Two exceptions: 5,330 & 6,559 sq feet
- This house will be almost TWICE the size of the largest home and up to FOUR times the size of the average 2,500 sq ft home.
We are steadfastly against the Zoning Board of Appeals' overturn of HABR’s decision on the grounds that:
- HABR was established and charged with the responsibility to make decisions on the construction of and renovation to homes within the Historic District that protect and preserve the overall historic character and integrity of our Historic District,
- these decisions include size, appearance and harmony to neighboring residences,
- upholding the denial of HABR #15-15 benefits the historic character of ALL of Palisades AND the Town of Orangetown,
- it is agreed by HABR and the outpouring of Palisades residents that residential buildings of this immense size and mass do not belong in the Historic District of Palisades,
- and the approval of this size, sets an UNACCEPTABLE precedent in Historic Districts for future development.
If the decision by HABR to oppose the planned HABR #15-15 building is overturned, we, the undersigned, believe that it will undermine the very purpose of HABR and further erode the ability of HABR to effectively protect the overall historic character within Tappan and Palisades.
Updates
Reached 250 supporters
December 2, 2015
Reached 100 supporters
December 1, 2015
154 Comments
I live at 2 Clinton Avenue in South Nyack. These old neighborhoods have, through the mix and match of family homes, a feeling that fosters relationship and community. These big houses foster isolation, separation and and competition. We need more of one and less of the other. Jody Richards
Historic districts exist for a reason. Homes that don't meet the guidelines have ample opportunity to build almost everywhere else. Places like Alpine abound; places like Palisades are rare. Each serves a purpose and each has its adherents. Only the HABR and Zoning Board can insure that one doesn't become the other.
HABR's decision is in keeping with Article 12-4 G of the Town Code in that "New structures are to harmonize in general character with structures built in the immediate surrounding area. " This application is clearly disharmonious.
As a former resident of Palisades, one who is aware of how recent construction has already changed the character of the community, I oppose the construction of a home that is so out of keeping with the historic nature of Palisades.
The proposed house is out of character with the rest of the Historic District. While its size may be legal, HABR was established to protect the district as-a-whole from being destroyed by over-sized buildings.
Shows just how little consideration the people building this "home" have for their neighbors and neighborhood. Not to mention what a structure that size will do to the surrounding landscape both visually and more importantly, environmentally.
Deny construction of 10,000/12,000 sq ft home locaated at 246 Route 9W in Palisades, NY HABR#15-15
please observe the hist. board of review decision to deny the construction!
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I live at 2 Clinton Avenue in South Nyack. These old neighborhoods have, through the mix and match of family homes, a feeling that fosters relationship and community. These big houses foster isolation, separation and and competition. We need more of one and less of the other. Jody Richards