Reform the NICE guidelines and end the bias towards Cognitive Behaviour Therapy (CBT) in the IAPT programme
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Anonymous
6 years ago
Accredited body - NRHP (National Register of Hypnotherapists and Psychotherapists who are an organisational member of UKCP
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Anonymous
7 years ago
The psychosocial ideology is unscientific misanthropic garbage. Enough of this nightmarish fairyland nonsense Modest proposal. You are killing people with this crap. Shame on all of those who push this on the sick and disabled.
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Dr Ann Marie Harrison
10 years ago
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Having been an employee of an IAPT service I cannot advocate working within a 'one size fits all' manner. As an integrative therapist, a highly skilled one at that, i was forced to become a private practitioner. I see clients who will not invest in nhs iapt service because they are largely unhappy about being made to feel 'faliures' because they do not want to fill in endless forms for therapists who manulaise their treatments and cannot deviate from that manual, or agenda based practices. I would call these services RAPT i that they restrict access to psychological therapirs in order to stay with a medicalised, safety net, way of working eith no psychology training in their bacground. Nursrs with one year of training does not make a psychological therapist.
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Emily Morris
10 years ago
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Really good therapists are being denied the chance to work effectively because of this ridiculous one size fits all approach. People with complex needs are expected to 'recover' in six weeks and therapists are put under pressure to achieve 50% recovery rate outcomes which is unrealistic at best and at worst leads to unethical manipulation of clients to ensure that their test scores improve. The compassion is being sucked out of the service and excellent practitioners are being wasted.
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Brian Mynott
11 years ago
As a professional Trauma Therapist and surivivor I fully agree with this
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Nic
11 years ago
I am alive today because of Person Centred (ie Rogerian/Humanistic) therapy. It is harder to quantify the impacts than CBT but provides a solid life-long grounding for recovery and growth - by addressing the human at the heart of mental health problems, rather than focussing on specific behavioural manifestations of those problems.
Mental health is too important to not listen to a wide breadth of academic input, even if the conclusions are more expensive or time-consuming.
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Nic
11 years ago
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I am alive today because of Person Centred (ie Rogerian/Humanistic) therapy. It is harder to quantify the impacts than CBT but provides a solid life-long grounding for recovery and growth - by addressing the human at the heart of mental health problems, rather than focussing on specific behavioural manifestations of those problems.
Mental health is too important to not listen to a wide breadth of academic input, even if the conclusions are more expensive or time-consuming.
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Angela Kennedy
11 years ago
I am a sociologist who has undertaken research and written about key problems of CBT approaches.
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Angela Kennedy
11 years ago
I am a sociologist who has undertaken research and written about key problems of CBT approaches.
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peter murphy
11 years ago
Life is not a 'cognitive behavioural trip'! Even in the Probation Service this fatuous utilitarian approach pervaded its work. Psychology becomes the administrative arm of the government.
It has parallels with Sociology in the !960-70's which became fulfilled a similar function for the West. Read Alvin Gouldner's works' from this time, in which he highlighted the conservative nature of much traditona lSocial Research. A great deal of Psychology appears to fulfill a similar function, also creating an aura of scientism about its achievements. Yet, people are right to insist that there is not one univocal way of resolving the social and political problems that exist.
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peter murphy
11 years ago
Life is not a 'cognitive behavioural trip'! Even in the Probation Service this fatuous utilitarian approach pervaded its work. Psychology becomes the administrative arm of the government.
It has parallels with Sociology in the !960-70's which became fulfilled a similar function for the West. Read Alvin Gouldner's works' from this time, in which he highlighted the conservative nature of much traditona lSocial Research. A great deal of Psychology appears to fulfill a similar function, also creating an aura of scientism about its achievements. Yet, people are right to insist that there is not one univocal way of resolving the social and political problems that exist.
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Anonymous
11 years ago
therapists and people in therapy need to be free to choose between different models of counselling/ therapy
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V Wagner
11 years ago
therapists and people in therapy need to be free to choose between different models of counselling/ therapy
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Fiona Anderson
11 years ago
One size fits all is a strange approach to treating the vast range of mental health problems. CBT *may* play a role in helping people with mild short term issues, but is like using a sticking plaster on a broken leg for serious long term issues. Would *you* want that for yourself?
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Fiona Anderson
11 years ago
One size fits all is a strange approach to treating the vast range of mental health problems. CBT *may* play a role in helping people with mild short term issues, but is like using a sticking plaster on a broken leg for serious long term issues. Would *you* want that for yourself?
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AJ Joseph
11 years ago
DBT has destroyed my life. It is not therapy, it is bullying.
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AJ Joseph
11 years ago
DBT has destroyed my life. It is not therapy, it is bullying.
Accredited body - NRHP (National Register of Hypnotherapists and Psychotherapists who are an organisational member of UKCP
The psychosocial ideology is unscientific misanthropic garbage. Enough of this nightmarish fairyland nonsense Modest proposal. You are killing people with this crap. Shame on all of those who push this on the sick and disabled.
Having been an employee of an IAPT service I cannot advocate working within a 'one size fits all' manner. As an integrative therapist, a highly skilled one at that, i was forced to become a private practitioner. I see clients who will not invest in nhs iapt service because they are largely unhappy about being made to feel 'faliures' because they do not want to fill in endless forms for therapists who manulaise their treatments and cannot deviate from that manual, or agenda based practices. I would call these services RAPT i that they restrict access to psychological therapirs in order to stay with a medicalised, safety net, way of working eith no psychology training in their bacground. Nursrs with one year of training does not make a psychological therapist.
Really good therapists are being denied the chance to work effectively because of this ridiculous one size fits all approach. People with complex needs are expected to 'recover' in six weeks and therapists are put under pressure to achieve 50% recovery rate outcomes which is unrealistic at best and at worst leads to unethical manipulation of clients to ensure that their test scores improve. The compassion is being sucked out of the service and excellent practitioners are being wasted.
As a professional Trauma Therapist and surivivor I fully agree with this
I am alive today because of Person Centred (ie Rogerian/Humanistic) therapy. It is harder to quantify the impacts than CBT but provides a solid life-long grounding for recovery and growth - by addressing the human at the heart of mental health problems, rather than focussing on specific behavioural manifestations of those problems. Mental health is too important to not listen to a wide breadth of academic input, even if the conclusions are more expensive or time-consuming.
I am alive today because of Person Centred (ie Rogerian/Humanistic) therapy. It is harder to quantify the impacts than CBT but provides a solid life-long grounding for recovery and growth - by addressing the human at the heart of mental health problems, rather than focussing on specific behavioural manifestations of those problems. Mental health is too important to not listen to a wide breadth of academic input, even if the conclusions are more expensive or time-consuming.
I am a sociologist who has undertaken research and written about key problems of CBT approaches.
I am a sociologist who has undertaken research and written about key problems of CBT approaches.
Life is not a 'cognitive behavioural trip'! Even in the Probation Service this fatuous utilitarian approach pervaded its work. Psychology becomes the administrative arm of the government. It has parallels with Sociology in the !960-70's which became fulfilled a similar function for the West. Read Alvin Gouldner's works' from this time, in which he highlighted the conservative nature of much traditona lSocial Research. A great deal of Psychology appears to fulfill a similar function, also creating an aura of scientism about its achievements. Yet, people are right to insist that there is not one univocal way of resolving the social and political problems that exist.
Life is not a 'cognitive behavioural trip'! Even in the Probation Service this fatuous utilitarian approach pervaded its work. Psychology becomes the administrative arm of the government. It has parallels with Sociology in the !960-70's which became fulfilled a similar function for the West. Read Alvin Gouldner's works' from this time, in which he highlighted the conservative nature of much traditona lSocial Research. A great deal of Psychology appears to fulfill a similar function, also creating an aura of scientism about its achievements. Yet, people are right to insist that there is not one univocal way of resolving the social and political problems that exist.
therapists and people in therapy need to be free to choose between different models of counselling/ therapy
therapists and people in therapy need to be free to choose between different models of counselling/ therapy
One size fits all is a strange approach to treating the vast range of mental health problems. CBT *may* play a role in helping people with mild short term issues, but is like using a sticking plaster on a broken leg for serious long term issues. Would *you* want that for yourself?
One size fits all is a strange approach to treating the vast range of mental health problems. CBT *may* play a role in helping people with mild short term issues, but is like using a sticking plaster on a broken leg for serious long term issues. Would *you* want that for yourself?
DBT has destroyed my life. It is not therapy, it is bullying.
DBT has destroyed my life. It is not therapy, it is bullying.
Assuming faulty cognition is psychiatric abuse
Assuming faulty cognition is psychiatric abuse
I am a registered member of UKCP