I might not be alive today to do the duties and be involved in St. John Ambulance, if a member had not stepped out of MFR protocols and used their nursing training, at a duty I did a number of years ago. If insurance is the main concern, it would be far more proactive to find out how much insuring people with other than MFR training would cost. OFA 3s can have the insurance by paying the OFA Association dues - not cheap at $80/year, but anybody who works in that field is well advised to have the coverage, and would get it for their work anyway, so it would not cost St. John Ambulance anything. For other professionals, there may be other arrangements that can and should be made,
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Mary Loblaw
12 years ago
I might not be alive today to do the duties and be involved in St. John Ambulance, if a member had not stepped out of MFR protocols and used their nursing training, at a duty I did a number of years ago. If insurance is the main concern, it would be far more proactive to find out how much insuring people with other than MFR training would cost. OFA 3s can have the insurance by paying the OFA Association dues - not cheap at $80/year, but anybody who works in that field is well advised to have the coverage, and would get it for their work anyway, so it would not cost St. John Ambulance anything. For other professionals, there may be other arrangements that can and should be made,
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Mary Loblaw
12 years ago
I might not be alive today to do the duties and be involved in St. John Ambulance, if a member had not stepped out of MFR protocols and used their nursing training, both at a duty I did a number of years ago.
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Toron Petersen
12 years ago
This is backwards .... how can SJA remain a leader in first aid, when their volunteers are being told they are allowed to do less to help those that need it most?
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Tina Murray
12 years ago
It feels like we are moving backwards instead of forwards, that will lose us respect both in the community and Emergency Services
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Patricia Threlfall
12 years ago
the changes will reduce st john ambulance ability to help in our community
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Jim Aitken
12 years ago
ok not to start a panic but i got an e-mail from a person i know at work safe and apparently they are looking at enforcing harsh penalties against licensed people that start administering first aid to a patient and then not treating that person to the full extent of their training I do not know this for sure but I for one am going to keep my ears open because I am an ofa3 and i love what i do
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Jim Aitken
12 years ago
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I can't believe the changes that are happening to the MFR the removal of spinal to start with we do a lot of duty in the rural areas and mountain's that surround our community more than once I have been in areas that we had access but BCAS could not get in and even then they where more than 30 minuets away from the closest point to us .
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Debbie Poon
12 years ago
Reducing scope and quality of practice is not In Service to Mankind.
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Cole Shaver
12 years ago
What BC is doing to MFR is not what is best for our patients or the professional development of our members. BC should follow Ontario's approach which is "Medical First Response" not "First Aid". They need to recognize the higher levels of training and allow members to work at these higher levels. We have many EMRs, PCPs, ALS and higher and they should be able to work at their higher levels; especially since MFR is being watered down to less than a OFA2.
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Kay-Uwe Konojacki
12 years ago
We need to Upgrade our standards to remain competive with other organizations that are doing puplic duties. We also have gained respect of our community with our advanced training and professionalism. Let move forward and above our compitition.
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arlene berube
12 years ago
nanaimo bc canada
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Richard Maybury
12 years ago
I concur with the petition
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Debbie Osborne
12 years ago
I am very sad about these changes, maybe those people making these changes should come out and work in the field again and see what is going on. It seems they have lost what we are all about!
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Nick Barrett
12 years ago
Nanaino, BC, Canada
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Shawn Cameron
12 years ago
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These changes are a pretty sad change. The world is being run by lawyers it seems. SJA is taking the path of least resistance and trying to make their legal team happy. It's turning into a competition to do whatever meets the absolute minimum requirements of first aid care while trying to minimalize anything that could possibly have the organization get sued over.
MFR's are of volunteer service to our communities, we should NOT be forced to only offer near basic first aid - city events rely on us, we need to have proper, advanced training. The new changes will reduce our skills greatly, which will inhibit our ability to help people. These new cut backs will drastically ruin what it means to be a MFR, making it closer to basic first aid. Not to mention, if these changes happen, we will lose a lot of old and potential MFR brigade members. People aren't interested in volunteering to learn basic first aid; the majority become involved to learn more advanced skills for various reasons or to keep advanced skills up to date. I am personally involved because I am interested in disaster preparedness and my prior interest was going over seas to help earth disaster areas. We are still expecting an earthquake here. If I was forced to lose all those skills as an MFR it would interfere with my goals and I'd be forced to learn elsewhere, which is a shame because I highly enjoy volunteering with the Brigade at community events. The Brigade is planned to be working with ESS in the event of any disaster. Many of us might be available during disaster when paramedics are not. We need to be able to keep our current levels of first aid so we can be of service to the community if something cataclysmic were to go down, let alone at community events. Call me paranoid, but that is the whole reason I got my certificates, but if they are to drastically decrease the skills of a medical first responder, I think we would be ill prepared and not even fit for community first aiders, let alone to help out in a disaster situation. The Brigade gives me a place to learn and keep up to date all the time with all the advanced first aid skills that I am passionate about. Please don't let them cut out the things we can learn as MFR's because this is the only place where I can become strong and confident in my skills for my future.
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Kevan Ibbotson
12 years ago
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If they are going to our scope of practice they might as well lower our training requirments and go back to having the members only need Stardard enhances with CPR and AED. If we cannot use is why are we spending the time commitment to train to the MFR level?
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Larry Joe
12 years ago
I agree. Plus OFA3 allows pressure points. MFR1 doesn't? Don't lower our standards please.
I might not be alive today to do the duties and be involved in St. John Ambulance, if a member had not stepped out of MFR protocols and used their nursing training, at a duty I did a number of years ago. If insurance is the main concern, it would be far more proactive to find out how much insuring people with other than MFR training would cost. OFA 3s can have the insurance by paying the OFA Association dues - not cheap at $80/year, but anybody who works in that field is well advised to have the coverage, and would get it for their work anyway, so it would not cost St. John Ambulance anything. For other professionals, there may be other arrangements that can and should be made,
I might not be alive today to do the duties and be involved in St. John Ambulance, if a member had not stepped out of MFR protocols and used their nursing training, at a duty I did a number of years ago. If insurance is the main concern, it would be far more proactive to find out how much insuring people with other than MFR training would cost. OFA 3s can have the insurance by paying the OFA Association dues - not cheap at $80/year, but anybody who works in that field is well advised to have the coverage, and would get it for their work anyway, so it would not cost St. John Ambulance anything. For other professionals, there may be other arrangements that can and should be made,
I might not be alive today to do the duties and be involved in St. John Ambulance, if a member had not stepped out of MFR protocols and used their nursing training, both at a duty I did a number of years ago.
This is backwards .... how can SJA remain a leader in first aid, when their volunteers are being told they are allowed to do less to help those that need it most?
It feels like we are moving backwards instead of forwards, that will lose us respect both in the community and Emergency Services
the changes will reduce st john ambulance ability to help in our community
ok not to start a panic but i got an e-mail from a person i know at work safe and apparently they are looking at enforcing harsh penalties against licensed people that start administering first aid to a patient and then not treating that person to the full extent of their training I do not know this for sure but I for one am going to keep my ears open because I am an ofa3 and i love what i do
I can't believe the changes that are happening to the MFR the removal of spinal to start with we do a lot of duty in the rural areas and mountain's that surround our community more than once I have been in areas that we had access but BCAS could not get in and even then they where more than 30 minuets away from the closest point to us .
Reducing scope and quality of practice is not In Service to Mankind.
What BC is doing to MFR is not what is best for our patients or the professional development of our members. BC should follow Ontario's approach which is "Medical First Response" not "First Aid". They need to recognize the higher levels of training and allow members to work at these higher levels. We have many EMRs, PCPs, ALS and higher and they should be able to work at their higher levels; especially since MFR is being watered down to less than a OFA2.
We need to Upgrade our standards to remain competive with other organizations that are doing puplic duties. We also have gained respect of our community with our advanced training and professionalism. Let move forward and above our compitition.
nanaimo bc canada
I concur with the petition
I am very sad about these changes, maybe those people making these changes should come out and work in the field again and see what is going on. It seems they have lost what we are all about!
Nanaino, BC, Canada
These changes are a pretty sad change. The world is being run by lawyers it seems. SJA is taking the path of least resistance and trying to make their legal team happy. It's turning into a competition to do whatever meets the absolute minimum requirements of first aid care while trying to minimalize anything that could possibly have the organization get sued over.
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MFR's are of volunteer service to our communities, we should NOT be forced to only offer near basic first aid - city events rely on us, we need to have proper, advanced training. The new changes will reduce our skills greatly, which will inhibit our ability to help people. These new cut backs will drastically ruin what it means to be a MFR, making it closer to basic first aid. Not to mention, if these changes happen, we will lose a lot of old and potential MFR brigade members. People aren't interested in volunteering to learn basic first aid; the majority become involved to learn more advanced skills for various reasons or to keep advanced skills up to date. I am personally involved because I am interested in disaster preparedness and my prior interest was going over seas to help earth disaster areas. We are still expecting an earthquake here. If I was forced to lose all those skills as an MFR it would interfere with my goals and I'd be forced to learn elsewhere, which is a shame because I highly enjoy volunteering with the Brigade at community events. The Brigade is planned to be working with ESS in the event of any disaster. Many of us might be available during disaster when paramedics are not. We need to be able to keep our current levels of first aid so we can be of service to the community if something cataclysmic were to go down, let alone at community events. Call me paranoid, but that is the whole reason I got my certificates, but if they are to drastically decrease the skills of a medical first responder, I think we would be ill prepared and not even fit for community first aiders, let alone to help out in a disaster situation. The Brigade gives me a place to learn and keep up to date all the time with all the advanced first aid skills that I am passionate about. Please don't let them cut out the things we can learn as MFR's because this is the only place where I can become strong and confident in my skills for my future.
If they are going to our scope of practice they might as well lower our training requirments and go back to having the members only need Stardard enhances with CPR and AED. If we cannot use is why are we spending the time commitment to train to the MFR level?
I agree. Plus OFA3 allows pressure points. MFR1 doesn't? Don't lower our standards please.