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Seattle's New LED Streetlights are Unpleasant

120 Signatures Goal: 250

This is a petition to the Seattle City Council, Mayor Ed Murray and Seattle City Light addressing the installation of LED street lamps in strictly residential areas. We find these lights to be offensive for different reasons, not all of us for the same reason, but among the ones we’ve heard are: 1. Intensity. They are far too bright. They obscure the night sky from below and create sharp and distinct shadows of cars, trees, etc. Some of us have taken to wearing beaked caps, like baseball caps, to walk through the neighborhood at night. 2.Glare. The light bounces off any metal object (as in, cars) and against the wet pavement to create an unpleasant reflection up. 3.Expanse. Their cone of bright light is broad. (E.g., the streetlight at 50th Ave South and Lake Washington Boulevard now lights up the entire beach and bench area at the lake across the boulevard. It’s like sitting in a soccer field.) 4.Color. The Engineer’s prepared response about the “color temperature that is similar to moonlight” and the 60% less energy use and the patronizing tone of your email instructing all of us on this. From the letter from the Joint Use and Streetlight Engineering Manager at City Light: “I hope that you can understand the reasons for this change and that you can appreciate some of the benefits these new lights will provide.” “I hope you can appreciate” is veiled scorn, as anyone can see. The “will provide” tells us exactly how our complaints are heard. There will be no change, as far as City Light is concerned. 5. Intrusiveness. Where people have complained about the light intrusiveness into the house in an area of dark (along or in view of Lake Washington) and where people often had no curtains but now have had to cover their windows instead of keeping their view, we are told the Resident Engineer will check it out and then told he found it “not overly lit.” We request the city, through whatever means are effective, to address this issue. We are paying large taxes. This is a quality of life and ambience issue for people living in formerly light-quiet neighborhoods. While the lights may meet your engineering criteria, they do not meet the happiness quotient. We are not happy with the amber, sweetly lighting lamps being replaced with these howling, though energy-efficient, streetlights. Many of us would like to go back, but all of us want something (filters? a lesser light?) done before summer. These lights do not work, no matter what the Lighting Engineers say.

ledstreetlightsseattle@gmail.com This is an email created specifically for this petition.

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Mary Travers maryptravers@gmail.com

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July 12
Petition has reached 100 signatures!
March 6
The city can install shields and reduce driver output. Email Stephen.Crume@seattle.gov with the post number and the address and area affected by the light. My home is now in blissful dark again.

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  • Gerlinde Whetzell
    Gerlinde Whetzell United States, Seattle
    Apr 21, 2017
    Apr 21, 2017
    We had a major glaring issue with the new LED street lamps. They blinded us in our condo and made the evenings very unpleasant. When researching how other people coped with this problem, I noticed a post here that recommended to touch bases with Stephen.Crume@seattle.gov. I finally e-mailed him on Easter Sunday (with lamp post numbers, description of the issues and attached photos) and received a friendly reply the next morning with the promise that he would investigate. Then, on the next day, two engineers worked on our issue. They took care of one of our problems, but the family room still had some glaring issues, reduced but not completely eliminated. We reported back to Mr. Crume and he sent his crew out again, within two days. At that time, the engineers changed out both of the lamps and now we have no glaring issues whatsoever. Two thumbs up on the outstanding service from Seattle Lights. The responsiveness was impressive. The employees really care. We feel lucky that our issues are completely resolved - within four days after first contacting Mr. Crume.
  • Sarah
    Sarah United States, Dallas
    Apr 15, 2017
    Apr 15, 2017
    The color temperature should be no great than 2700K (2000K would be even better). Consider PC Amber LEDs, filtered 2700K LEDs, or "wait," as the technology is changing so fast for the better.
  • Carrie Shevelson
    Carrie Shevelson United States, Seattle
    Feb 15, 2017
    Feb 15, 2017
    I have had to cover my window with foam core. No lie. This is awful. It wakes me up every night. I have made several complaints with the city. Unbearable.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous
    Jan 24, 2017
    Jan 24, 2017
    I am so glad to have come across this petition and to have found others who also have to drive with their visors down (at night!) and who get headaches from the new LED streetlights. I have been in touch with the city several times and after seeming like they cared, I finally got my last response which read,
    "Good day Ms. d'Armand,
    In response to your question below, I am sorry to tell you City Light will no longer be ordering high pressure sodium cobra head street lights. They are being phased out and in just a few short years will be obsolete."
    This was after sharing my deep concern for the danger these lights pose for drivers and for their adverse health effects. I used to look forward to my evening walk with the dog and now I find I have headaches when I get home. The lights are so piercing that they hurt my eyes, and, even without looking directly at them (which is almost impossible to do unless you are adept at walking with your eyes only on your feet and even there it looks as though you've come across a murder investigation scene) I still get a headache. I have endured many changes in Seattle in the 26 years I have been a resident here and I pay my taxes dutifully, but this change is simply rude and thoughtless to its residents. I am all for energy savings and I recycle and compost with the best of them. But this? This affects my quality of life deeply. No more looking at the night sky. I have always kept my curtains open and now I find I am closing them earlier and earlier and I absolutely hate it. I feel trapped in my own home. Seattle has always been a beautiful city, one that has combined natural beauty and city life so well. Naturally, we want to be a leader in energy savings, but you can't tell me there weren't other options here and you can't tell me they couldn't have put this up to a public vote. With the old sodium lights, they cast a light so that, as I driver, I could scan the road without thinking and see if there was anything in the way, a dog, a child, a pedestrian, a biker. A few weeks ago, I drove down to PCC in Fremont on a very rainy dark night and with the headlights coming at me, strobing bike lights coming at me, and these horrid streetlights, I did not see a huge burm that has been put in the middle of the street for construction and I barely missed a pedestrian coming into the street, something I would have seen with the old lights. I am a conscientious driver, I watch for people, allow them to cross the street... imagine if I were one of the hundreds of drivers who had her eyes on her cell phone to boot. I am livid about this change and I think the city should find a kinder alternative so its long-time residents can sleep better and look at the views they moved here for without a cold, glaring spotlight in the way. Please let me know what I can do to help get more signatures on this petition. I am happy to help. Although, I feel very negative about the city ever listening.

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    Gerlinde Whetzell United States
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