We won. The fee change is off the table.
October 9, 2014
Final supporters
If you'd like to read more about the proposed FVF changes, please continue reading. If not, and you'd like to sign, please scroll down to the bottom of the page.
I'll also be using the blog section of this site from time to time, clickable link, second tab at the top.
Group on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/groups/614990138523558/?fref=ts
Two easy examples to highlight what will happen when this change comes into effect.
Both examples will be private sellers using the auction format and selling books in the book category. Item 1 sells for £150 with p & p costing £3. Current FVF model of 10% on only £150. So £15 with a total profit of £135 New model of 10% on the total, £153. FVF will be £15.30, with a total profit of £134.70 Item 2 sells for 99p. Current FVF model of 10% on only the 99p, FVF will be 10p (it gets rounded up) with a profit total of 89p. New model of 10% on £3.99, FVF will be 40p (again, rounded up) with a profit total of 59p. And think if you have to send an item out of the UK. Postage costs are considerably higher and will be fee payable.
So, Ebay are wanting to fee its users for service they do not provide. They want us, the sellers, to give them a % of our profits and then give us nothing in return for this fee. If this change goes ahead both sellers and buyers will loose out. Sellers will have to up their postage prices to compensate for the new fees, and buyers will have to pay higher prices for an item they want.
I haven't made any mention of Paypal (Ebay owned) fees, which includes a fee on the postage, as that will just confuse what this petition is about.
And I, and I hope anyone who signs this petition, am not against paying fees on Ebay. They are providing us the platform to sell goods around the world so the current FVF on item sale price is a very fair fee to have to pay to use this platform. 5,000 signatures is the target here, I think it is very do able. Private Seller news link http://www2.ebay.com/aw/uk/201308.shtml#2013-08-05115342 Business Sellers news link - Where is was first announced, and partly hidden from any private seller. http://sellerupdate.ebay.co.uk/autumn2013/fee-changes
Updates
Reached 1,000 supporters
July 15, 2014
August 16, 2013
The momentum is undeniable. This proves just how many of us are tired of these fees.
Reached 100 supporters
August 6, 2013
189 Comments
This is ridiculous, Ebay overrules postage cost for certain items (i.e mobile phones) and set to actual post office prices, issue is when being charged FVF for the P&P the seller is out of pocket. This is unfair and should be illegal
AN OUTRAGE CHARGING FINAL VALUE FEE'S ON POSTAGE COST. ROYAL MAIL & ALL OTHER COURIERS ARE NOT OWNED BY EBAY BUT THEY CHARGE FEES TO USE ROYAL MAIL ETC, WE CANNOT MAKE PROFITS ON POSTAGE BUT EBAY CAN????? UNBELIEVABLE.
utterly stupid and underhanded way of introducing a stealth charge on postage. Perhaps E-Bay should allow its customers to rate Royal Mail and lets see how many defect strikes they get, and will they get banned from E-Bay for lack of performance and meeting delivery scheduled service agreements
If ebay charge 10% we need to pass the cost on to the buyer at at least 11%. £1 p&p at 10% = 10p extra. If we charge £1.10 ebay takes 10% so that's then 11p. I'm still 1p out of pocket the buyer is 10p worse off for every £1 of postage FFS.
I sold 5 wooden bowls last week for £7.49. Ebay charged me £2.01 This is over 25% and it is extortionate. They have priced themselves out and I have just ended ALL my listings, around 30 I think.
Surely this can't be legal to make money from postage costs
Rip off when trying to keep costs down
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We won. The fee change is off the table.
October 9, 2014
Final supporters
If you'd like to read more about the proposed FVF changes, please continue reading. If not, and you'd like to sign, please scroll down to the bottom of the page.
I'll also be using the blog section of this site from time to time, clickable link, second tab at the top.
Group on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/groups/614990138523558/?fref=ts
Two easy examples to highlight what will happen when this change comes into effect.
Both examples will be private sellers using the auction format and selling books in the book category. Item 1 sells for £150 with p & p costing £3. Current FVF model of 10% on only £150. So £15 with a total profit of £135 New model of 10% on the total, £153. FVF will be £15.30, with a total profit of £134.70 Item 2 sells for 99p. Current FVF model of 10% on only the 99p, FVF will be 10p (it gets rounded up) with a profit total of 89p. New model of 10% on £3.99, FVF will be 40p (again, rounded up) with a profit total of 59p. And think if you have to send an item out of the UK. Postage costs are considerably higher and will be fee payable.
So, Ebay are wanting to fee its users for service they do not provide. They want us, the sellers, to give them a % of our profits and then give us nothing in return for this fee. If this change goes ahead both sellers and buyers will loose out. Sellers will have to up their postage prices to compensate for the new fees, and buyers will have to pay higher prices for an item they want.
I haven't made any mention of Paypal (Ebay owned) fees, which includes a fee on the postage, as that will just confuse what this petition is about.
And I, and I hope anyone who signs this petition, am not against paying fees on Ebay. They are providing us the platform to sell goods around the world so the current FVF on item sale price is a very fair fee to have to pay to use this platform. 5,000 signatures is the target here, I think it is very do able. Private Seller news link http://www2.ebay.com/aw/uk/201308.shtml#2013-08-05115342 Business Sellers news link - Where is was first announced, and partly hidden from any private seller. http://sellerupdate.ebay.co.uk/autumn2013/fee-changes
Updates
Reached 1,000 supporters
July 15, 2014
August 16, 2013
The momentum is undeniable. This proves just how many of us are tired of these fees.
Reached 100 supporters
August 6, 2013
189 Comments
If postage costs £10 and I charge £10 (as I'm not permitted to surcharge) I get £9. Will the man at the post office accept £9? NO! It's unfair, unjust and should be unlawful for ebay to charge for a service they are not providing.
This is ridiculous, Ebay overrules postage cost for certain items (i.e mobile phones) and set to actual post office prices, issue is when being charged FVF for the P&P the seller is out of pocket. This is unfair and should be illegal
AN OUTRAGE CHARGING FINAL VALUE FEE'S ON POSTAGE COST. ROYAL MAIL & ALL OTHER COURIERS ARE NOT OWNED BY EBAY BUT THEY CHARGE FEES TO USE ROYAL MAIL ETC, WE CANNOT MAKE PROFITS ON POSTAGE BUT EBAY CAN????? UNBELIEVABLE.
utterly stupid and underhanded way of introducing a stealth charge on postage. Perhaps E-Bay should allow its customers to rate Royal Mail and lets see how many defect strikes they get, and will they get banned from E-Bay for lack of performance and meeting delivery scheduled service agreements
If ebay charge 10% we need to pass the cost on to the buyer at at least 11%. £1 p&p at 10% = 10p extra. If we charge £1.10 ebay takes 10% so that's then 11p. I'm still 1p out of pocket the buyer is 10p worse off for every £1 of postage FFS.
I sold 5 wooden bowls last week for £7.49. Ebay charged me £2.01 This is over 25% and it is extortionate. They have priced themselves out and I have just ended ALL my listings, around 30 I think.
Surely this can't be legal to make money from postage costs
Rip off when trying to keep costs down
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If postage costs £10 and I charge £10 (as I'm not permitted to surcharge) I get £9. Will the man at the post office accept £9? NO! It's unfair, unjust and should be unlawful for ebay to charge for a service they are not providing.