The slope in big rock presents a danger to drilling construction of any kind. It’s dry now but wet winters can soak the ground and the extra weight presents severe landslide dangers!
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SABRINA ZARETTI
5 years ago
Worried for landslides known to Malibu
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Walter Zelman
5 years ago
Seems reasonable to me that approval of this project can wait until all safety issues can be resolved. These are serious challenges, the outcomes of which could impact many homes and homeowners in Big Rock
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Connie Goetz
5 years ago
Stop overbuilding!
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michael And Lyndell Paul
5 years ago
I agree with the concerns about the maintenance of the dewatering
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lisa newman
5 years ago
Please put a moratorium on construction in the Big Rock Mesa.
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RICHARD EHRMAN
6 years ago
Thank u
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Wendy Wolff
6 years ago
I support the improvement for the safety and preservation of Big Rocks geology.
Wendy Widell Wolff
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K Hill
6 years ago
A basic problem is that there is no executive authority to evaluate the outputs of the monitoring and render an expert opinion on the current stability of the local geology. Fugro does the monitoring, pulls all the data together in an annual report, but no one puts their name on the line to say what it all means. In the early years, Bign Yen would render an opinion. Nowadays, I guess it should be City geologist Chris Dean – or perhaps a (Fugro) consultant specialized in slides and dewatering – but it seems the City is reluctant to draw conclusions from the data, out of concern that any subjective interpretation could expose them to liability. That’s my speculation.
There has been some some movement of the hill in recent years, perhaps in isolated areas. Given the variety of observations made by neighbors – some factual, some more circumstantial – it would be prudent for the CIty to impose a moratorium on any further development that adds fixtures (sinks, toilets, etc) or otherwise increases water inputs to the hill (within that constraint, if you want to remodel or make an addition, that should be okay). A moratorium, especially because no authority will put its name on the line to certify the hill’s safety – apart from the City’s implicit assumption that it’s safe.
Note that just because the contract is up for renewal and out for bid, it doesn’t mean that Fugro won’t still be the selected contractor (unless you know something I don’t).
For years I’d read the annual report without questioning its findings too cynically. As I’ve looked closer in the past few years, that has changed. It’s clear that Big Rock is not getting what it’s paying for. The FinanceDTA report, on page 9 of 31 of the staff report, has a list of “facilities and maintenance financed.” Some significant number of those wells, hydraugers, etc have not been functional for years. For example, three hydraugers on my property have not worked for about 20 years. When Bing Yen was running the sho
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Gerhard Ihde
6 years ago
No new construction in an active landslide area.
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Sheryl Myerson
6 years ago
Yes - we need sustainable management of existing hillsides, not more development!
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Sheryl Myerson
6 years ago
Agree - we need sustainable management of existing hillsides, not more development!
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Nathalie D Smith
6 years ago
Please put a moratorium on development in Big Rock until we get a scientific answer from the City with regards to the stability of our hill.
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Wade Major
6 years ago
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For what we've paid, for as long as we've paid, it's unconscionably derelict that the dewatering installations have fallen into disrepair. The annual assessment is supposed to keep them consistently functional AT ALL TIMES. At the very least there should be an investigation and an accounting for why this was allowed to happen. And the cost of remedying the situation should fall on those who allowed it to happen - not the homeowners.
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Hak Wong
6 years ago
Better late than never for corrective actions.
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Nancy Corwin
6 years ago
We’ve had mudslides several times in the past!
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James Sarantinos
6 years ago
Is common sense / rational maintenance of our dewatering infrastructure too much to ask for?
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Georg Treu
6 years ago
fully behind this
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Marilou Hamill
6 years ago
Please let’s learn from the past and be diligent to maintain and improve the stability of Big Rock.
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RENATE L DOLIN
6 years ago
It is surprising that after the class action suit in the 80th and the following remedial installations of dewatering equipment - for which an assessment district was developed - and maintenance was kept at a minumum - despite extensive payments assessed on our tax bills - there seems no consideration given by the planning commission by granting permits for variances of housing size with additional water input into the hills. Must we wait for another slide with resulting law-suits to recognize that there is an enormous problem in a geological very sensitive area, supported by geological reports going back more than 30 years.
The slope in big rock presents a danger to drilling construction of any kind. It’s dry now but wet winters can soak the ground and the extra weight presents severe landslide dangers!
Worried for landslides known to Malibu
Seems reasonable to me that approval of this project can wait until all safety issues can be resolved. These are serious challenges, the outcomes of which could impact many homes and homeowners in Big Rock
Stop overbuilding!
I agree with the concerns about the maintenance of the dewatering
Please put a moratorium on construction in the Big Rock Mesa.
Thank u
I support the improvement for the safety and preservation of Big Rocks geology. Wendy Widell Wolff
A basic problem is that there is no executive authority to evaluate the outputs of the monitoring and render an expert opinion on the current stability of the local geology. Fugro does the monitoring, pulls all the data together in an annual report, but no one puts their name on the line to say what it all means. In the early years, Bign Yen would render an opinion. Nowadays, I guess it should be City geologist Chris Dean – or perhaps a (Fugro) consultant specialized in slides and dewatering – but it seems the City is reluctant to draw conclusions from the data, out of concern that any subjective interpretation could expose them to liability. That’s my speculation. There has been some some movement of the hill in recent years, perhaps in isolated areas. Given the variety of observations made by neighbors – some factual, some more circumstantial – it would be prudent for the CIty to impose a moratorium on any further development that adds fixtures (sinks, toilets, etc) or otherwise increases water inputs to the hill (within that constraint, if you want to remodel or make an addition, that should be okay). A moratorium, especially because no authority will put its name on the line to certify the hill’s safety – apart from the City’s implicit assumption that it’s safe. Note that just because the contract is up for renewal and out for bid, it doesn’t mean that Fugro won’t still be the selected contractor (unless you know something I don’t). For years I’d read the annual report without questioning its findings too cynically. As I’ve looked closer in the past few years, that has changed. It’s clear that Big Rock is not getting what it’s paying for. The FinanceDTA report, on page 9 of 31 of the staff report, has a list of “facilities and maintenance financed.” Some significant number of those wells, hydraugers, etc have not been functional for years. For example, three hydraugers on my property have not worked for about 20 years. When Bing Yen was running the sho
No new construction in an active landslide area.
Yes - we need sustainable management of existing hillsides, not more development!
Agree - we need sustainable management of existing hillsides, not more development!
Please put a moratorium on development in Big Rock until we get a scientific answer from the City with regards to the stability of our hill.
For what we've paid, for as long as we've paid, it's unconscionably derelict that the dewatering installations have fallen into disrepair. The annual assessment is supposed to keep them consistently functional AT ALL TIMES. At the very least there should be an investigation and an accounting for why this was allowed to happen. And the cost of remedying the situation should fall on those who allowed it to happen - not the homeowners.
Better late than never for corrective actions.
We’ve had mudslides several times in the past!
Is common sense / rational maintenance of our dewatering infrastructure too much to ask for?
fully behind this
Please let’s learn from the past and be diligent to maintain and improve the stability of Big Rock.
It is surprising that after the class action suit in the 80th and the following remedial installations of dewatering equipment - for which an assessment district was developed - and maintenance was kept at a minumum - despite extensive payments assessed on our tax bills - there seems no consideration given by the planning commission by granting permits for variances of housing size with additional water input into the hills. Must we wait for another slide with resulting law-suits to recognize that there is an enormous problem in a geological very sensitive area, supported by geological reports going back more than 30 years.