We are breeders if Englsih Golden Retrievers and this new law restricts the import of our pups to the USA needlessly. Our adult Goldens are all vaccinated against rabies and British Columbia has had limited rabies concern or problem if at all.
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Kathy Adorjan
11 years ago
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The confinement agreement is also frightening. To have to muzzle an 8 week old puppy just to take it out to pee, and to continue to have to do so until it is 4 months of age. And not allow it any contact with people or other pets. Scary stuff!
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Kathy Adorjan
11 years ago
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I've already had to turn away 5 excellent working/show homes for puppies from my upcoming litter because they were in the US. I have partnerships with breeders in the US that I will no longer be able to have. If I use a US stud dog they will no longer be able to take a puppy back in lieu of a stud fee. My breed cannot be given a rabies vaccine until 5 months of age. I do not have the space, nor can I afford to house multiple puppies until 6 months of age, and it is not in the best interest of the puppies to do so!
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teri Herrera
11 years ago
Chris and Ashley- you are one of only two people that I have seen with approved confinement agreements. Can you share what reasons you gave for needing the agreement? One of the approval guidelines stipulates that you must give a reason why you need one and why you cannot wait until 16 weeks. That seems so vague and arbitrary. It would be interesting to know what reasons you gave in hopes of starting a precedence.
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Sharon Robertson
· petition starter
11 years ago
It is almost impossible to get the CDC to approve a confinement agreement
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Lorna Christie
11 years ago
Chris, I feel for you and what you have gone through ... the stress before you had to go through the process you describe - totally unnecessary I say. I am so thankful that the puppy from the last litter who was adopted by a couple in the USA crossed the border on Friday, Aug. 8th!! No problems at all and the Cdn. and USA Border Personnel knew they were coming to get a puppy - all they wanted to ensure was that they weren't dealing with a 'puppy mill'; my clients smiled and said: "NO" ... she is a home-hobby breeder and her dogs are part of her home/family; they shared that they had visited and liaised quite a bit with me too :) I am so happy for them and for me too. Trust all's well with you and the puppy, Chris.
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Ashley
11 years ago
The CDC may approve a "dog confinement agreement" for a dog that does not have vaccinations but this is what "confinement" means: “restriction of a dog or cat to a building or other enclosure at a U.S. port, en route to destination and at destination, in isolation from other animals and from persons except for contact necessary for its care or, if the dog is allowed out of the enclosure, muzzling and keeping it on a leash.” How is this great for puppies? At 8 weeks they are at a critical stage for socialization and learning. If they can't be let out into public places until 16 weeks, thats EIGHT weeks of this "confinement". NOT reasonable for a puppy.
This makes me wonder, of the 55,000 deaths due to rabies across the globe, how many have been in the USA from IMPORTED DOGS? I bet not that many. And instead they are going to cause a lot of strife for breeders, owners and puppies. Not to mention what effect this will have on their behavior as adults. I'd imagine this would cause MORE grief than aid in the US due to unsocialized puppies. Socialization at that age is SO IMPORTANT!
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Crystal Meadows
11 years ago
Chris,
I am also approved to bring a puppy home on Aug. 20th. Can you please reply and let me know how everything went at the border. Did they have your info from the CDC? Did you print off your email to show them approval? Did they have to call one of the CDC offices to confirm your approval?
Thanks!
Crystal
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Leslie Snipes
11 years ago
The statute hasn't changed. The regulation for the statute hasn't changed. The only thing that has happened is a clarification and issuance of "guidance" (which may be leading to enforcement of long existing laws). Click on "docket details" near the bottom of this page if you want all the details: http://www.cdc.gov/animalimportation/lawsregulations/issuance-enforcement-guidance-dog-confinement-agreements.html
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Leanne Tucker
11 years ago
Chris how hard was it to get the confinement agreement. I've been contacted by the media and would like some concrete info on how "easily" it is obtained.
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Kristen Henry
11 years ago
I co-breed show dogs with a woman in Canada. We take turns breeding with our personal dogs. This will complicate me getting my own dogs back.
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Don Robertson
11 years ago
I encourage every single breeder to email their member of Parliament, Ag Canada, CDC, the opposition members, the media......anyone that will listen. How wrong is it that Canadians are banned from selling healthy puppies to the United States yet they are able to sell their puppies to Canadians with no problems at all.
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Sharon Robertson
· petition starter
11 years ago
Susan, please post your comments to the petition page
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susan ware
11 years ago
The new regulations have alarming and far-reaching implications for the small scale responsible breeder. The petition gives an excellent comprehensive overview of the issues involved. Hopefully it will be well supported as increasing numbers of serious breeders become aware of the new situation, and add their weight to the appeal.
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Cherie Perks
11 years ago
This is the most ludicrous, obnoxious thing I have ever heard of. Wildlife can walk, swim or fly across our borders. Are they going to have guards lined up shoulder to shoulder to shoot everything that tried to enter? If the mother of a litter is current on her vaccines, a puppy will have immunity. This is Peta and their partners in crime (HSUS and USDA) getting their foot in the door to seeing their vision of nobody owning a pet, and no domestic animals period becoming reality.
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Chris Scallon
11 years ago
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I am in the process of importing a 8 week old boxer puppy from Canada. I actually booked flights/hotels/car at the end of July and the airlines knew nothing about this new law. 5 days before my departure my Canadian breeder informs me that they just learned about the new law. I am due to travel back with puppy only 3 days after law goes into effect. What a nightmare! Long story short, I have applied for and been approved for a "dog confinement agreement" from the CDC that will allow me to import an unvacinated for rabies puppy (8 weeks old). That is the good news but I can't even begin to describe the emotional distress this has caused.
Crazy
not at all realistic, these are babies,
We are breeders if Englsih Golden Retrievers and this new law restricts the import of our pups to the USA needlessly. Our adult Goldens are all vaccinated against rabies and British Columbia has had limited rabies concern or problem if at all.
The confinement agreement is also frightening. To have to muzzle an 8 week old puppy just to take it out to pee, and to continue to have to do so until it is 4 months of age. And not allow it any contact with people or other pets. Scary stuff!
I've already had to turn away 5 excellent working/show homes for puppies from my upcoming litter because they were in the US. I have partnerships with breeders in the US that I will no longer be able to have. If I use a US stud dog they will no longer be able to take a puppy back in lieu of a stud fee. My breed cannot be given a rabies vaccine until 5 months of age. I do not have the space, nor can I afford to house multiple puppies until 6 months of age, and it is not in the best interest of the puppies to do so!
Chris and Ashley- you are one of only two people that I have seen with approved confinement agreements. Can you share what reasons you gave for needing the agreement? One of the approval guidelines stipulates that you must give a reason why you need one and why you cannot wait until 16 weeks. That seems so vague and arbitrary. It would be interesting to know what reasons you gave in hopes of starting a precedence.
It is almost impossible to get the CDC to approve a confinement agreement
Chris, I feel for you and what you have gone through ... the stress before you had to go through the process you describe - totally unnecessary I say. I am so thankful that the puppy from the last litter who was adopted by a couple in the USA crossed the border on Friday, Aug. 8th!! No problems at all and the Cdn. and USA Border Personnel knew they were coming to get a puppy - all they wanted to ensure was that they weren't dealing with a 'puppy mill'; my clients smiled and said: "NO" ... she is a home-hobby breeder and her dogs are part of her home/family; they shared that they had visited and liaised quite a bit with me too :) I am so happy for them and for me too. Trust all's well with you and the puppy, Chris.
The CDC may approve a "dog confinement agreement" for a dog that does not have vaccinations but this is what "confinement" means: “restriction of a dog or cat to a building or other enclosure at a U.S. port, en route to destination and at destination, in isolation from other animals and from persons except for contact necessary for its care or, if the dog is allowed out of the enclosure, muzzling and keeping it on a leash.” How is this great for puppies? At 8 weeks they are at a critical stage for socialization and learning. If they can't be let out into public places until 16 weeks, thats EIGHT weeks of this "confinement". NOT reasonable for a puppy. This makes me wonder, of the 55,000 deaths due to rabies across the globe, how many have been in the USA from IMPORTED DOGS? I bet not that many. And instead they are going to cause a lot of strife for breeders, owners and puppies. Not to mention what effect this will have on their behavior as adults. I'd imagine this would cause MORE grief than aid in the US due to unsocialized puppies. Socialization at that age is SO IMPORTANT!
Chris, I am also approved to bring a puppy home on Aug. 20th. Can you please reply and let me know how everything went at the border. Did they have your info from the CDC? Did you print off your email to show them approval? Did they have to call one of the CDC offices to confirm your approval? Thanks! Crystal
The statute hasn't changed. The regulation for the statute hasn't changed. The only thing that has happened is a clarification and issuance of "guidance" (which may be leading to enforcement of long existing laws). Click on "docket details" near the bottom of this page if you want all the details: http://www.cdc.gov/animalimportation/lawsregulations/issuance-enforcement-guidance-dog-confinement-agreements.html
Chris how hard was it to get the confinement agreement. I've been contacted by the media and would like some concrete info on how "easily" it is obtained.
I co-breed show dogs with a woman in Canada. We take turns breeding with our personal dogs. This will complicate me getting my own dogs back.
I encourage every single breeder to email their member of Parliament, Ag Canada, CDC, the opposition members, the media......anyone that will listen. How wrong is it that Canadians are banned from selling healthy puppies to the United States yet they are able to sell their puppies to Canadians with no problems at all.
Susan, please post your comments to the petition page
The new regulations have alarming and far-reaching implications for the small scale responsible breeder. The petition gives an excellent comprehensive overview of the issues involved. Hopefully it will be well supported as increasing numbers of serious breeders become aware of the new situation, and add their weight to the appeal.
This is the most ludicrous, obnoxious thing I have ever heard of. Wildlife can walk, swim or fly across our borders. Are they going to have guards lined up shoulder to shoulder to shoot everything that tried to enter? If the mother of a litter is current on her vaccines, a puppy will have immunity. This is Peta and their partners in crime (HSUS and USDA) getting their foot in the door to seeing their vision of nobody owning a pet, and no domestic animals period becoming reality.
I am in the process of importing a 8 week old boxer puppy from Canada. I actually booked flights/hotels/car at the end of July and the airlines knew nothing about this new law. 5 days before my departure my Canadian breeder informs me that they just learned about the new law. I am due to travel back with puppy only 3 days after law goes into effect. What a nightmare! Long story short, I have applied for and been approved for a "dog confinement agreement" from the CDC that will allow me to import an unvacinated for rabies puppy (8 weeks old). That is the good news but I can't even begin to describe the emotional distress this has caused.