NB Taxpayers demand to be taxed on vehicle purchase price, not government speculation
Gouging Vehicle speculation tax in New Brunswick
There is a new practice that has taken effect in recent years by service New Brunswick that has the potential of charging taxpayers a sales tax of 50 percent or more on a used vehicle purchase. It is a practice that unreasonably assigns an unrealistically high value to the vehicle that is being registered based on an average vehicle price that the said vehicle would have across the country. This average vehicle price is based solely on speculation with no real consideration of the actual value of the purchased vehicle, not taking into consideration such factors as vehicle condition, province in which the vehicle is from or of kilometers on the vehicle. Also this new practice does not allow appraisals to be accepted from licensed mechanics that would show a real value of the vehicle, instead allowing the bureaucracy to gouge the taxpayer.
My experience with this practice took place today. I found my hours at work reduced and had a need to sell my current vehicle and buy something more economical. I found a neighbor that was selling a used vehicle. The vehicle needed a couple things had a dirty interior and high kilometers and I was able to get it at a reasonable 1500 dollars. It being illegal to drive it without registering it I went to service New Brunswick and there was forced by law to pay a 710 dollar tax on my 1500 dollar purchase. A 47 percent tax! Because based on an average retail price of the vehicle in question they had at $4700. Again this average retail price does not take into consideration any aspects of the actual vehicle. For instance if you where to buy an old truck and put thousands of parts and labor into it to make it road legal regardless of my time and money the province will tax me to the level of a good working vehicle on my original purchase. While speaking to others I found many others went through this ridiculous abuse and they are as outraged as I am.
The premise of this practice seems to be that all taxpaying citizens that purchase a used vehicle are liars that can’t be trusted with telling you there actual purchase price of their vehicle or it is a blatant abuse of power by the province to gouge the taxpayer. The other side of this practice is that it in no way defends the consumer, for instance if you were to over pay for a vehicle you would not be afforded the same courtesy of paying less tax based on an average retail price. This tax is solely aimed at lower income individuals that cannot afford a new vehicle. The system is bad enough where the province will receive taxes on the asset changing hands over and over without abusing that tax payer with an unfair unavoidable tax that in my case was 47%. This abuse of the people of New Brunswick who already pay the highest sales tax in the country is inexcusable.
Updates
February 24, 2017
We just hit 1,000 signatures. That many people proves we are right to reject this unfair tax on our vehicle purchases. Email your MLA today to demand they stop this speculative valuation system immediately.
Reached 1,000 supporters
February 24, 2017
Reached 100 supporters
February 22, 2017
February 19, 2017
We are approaching one hundred signatures and need to maintain this momentum to prove our collective frustration. Post this link to your Facebook page right now and text three friends to get them to sign.
495 Comments
These "bureaucrats " tried to charge us 15% tax on the full price we paid for a vehicle we bought 3 years ago out west ... when we brought it back to nb . Ridiculous ! It's not worth the same as when we bought it ... money grubbing morons .
I don't know why the law even changed, you should pay the tax on the price you paid for the car. We live in a place where a car is rotten from salt after one year. buying a ten year old rust bucket then being charged more in tax than you paid is crooked.
My brother bought a wrecked car ( needed transmission, brakes,glass had 430,000kms) for $500 and SNB valued the car at $6200 and forced him to pay the taxes on their assessment. $930 in taxes for a $500 car that only lasted a few months.
Thievery...that is the only way to explain what SNB does to people trying to put a used car on the road. I had to pay $780 in taxes, book value of $6000 on a car that I paid $200 for from a friend and had to put a ton of work into in order to get it on the road...
We also brought a car for 1300 and they want 750 to change it over to my name . So now the car sits in the yard as we can't afford to change it over . So we wasted 1300 on something we can't drive . This is ridiculous. Very mad .
Its outrageous,
I agree completely
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NB Taxpayers demand to be taxed on vehicle purchase price, not government speculation
Gouging Vehicle speculation tax in New Brunswick
There is a new practice that has taken effect in recent years by service New Brunswick that has the potential of charging taxpayers a sales tax of 50 percent or more on a used vehicle purchase. It is a practice that unreasonably assigns an unrealistically high value to the vehicle that is being registered based on an average vehicle price that the said vehicle would have across the country. This average vehicle price is based solely on speculation with no real consideration of the actual value of the purchased vehicle, not taking into consideration such factors as vehicle condition, province in which the vehicle is from or of kilometers on the vehicle. Also this new practice does not allow appraisals to be accepted from licensed mechanics that would show a real value of the vehicle, instead allowing the bureaucracy to gouge the taxpayer.
My experience with this practice took place today. I found my hours at work reduced and had a need to sell my current vehicle and buy something more economical. I found a neighbor that was selling a used vehicle. The vehicle needed a couple things had a dirty interior and high kilometers and I was able to get it at a reasonable 1500 dollars. It being illegal to drive it without registering it I went to service New Brunswick and there was forced by law to pay a 710 dollar tax on my 1500 dollar purchase. A 47 percent tax! Because based on an average retail price of the vehicle in question they had at $4700. Again this average retail price does not take into consideration any aspects of the actual vehicle. For instance if you where to buy an old truck and put thousands of parts and labor into it to make it road legal regardless of my time and money the province will tax me to the level of a good working vehicle on my original purchase. While speaking to others I found many others went through this ridiculous abuse and they are as outraged as I am.
The premise of this practice seems to be that all taxpaying citizens that purchase a used vehicle are liars that can’t be trusted with telling you there actual purchase price of their vehicle or it is a blatant abuse of power by the province to gouge the taxpayer. The other side of this practice is that it in no way defends the consumer, for instance if you were to over pay for a vehicle you would not be afforded the same courtesy of paying less tax based on an average retail price. This tax is solely aimed at lower income individuals that cannot afford a new vehicle. The system is bad enough where the province will receive taxes on the asset changing hands over and over without abusing that tax payer with an unfair unavoidable tax that in my case was 47%. This abuse of the people of New Brunswick who already pay the highest sales tax in the country is inexcusable.
Updates
February 24, 2017
We just hit 1,000 signatures. That many people proves we are right to reject this unfair tax on our vehicle purchases. Email your MLA today to demand they stop this speculative valuation system immediately.
Reached 1,000 supporters
February 24, 2017
Reached 100 supporters
February 22, 2017
February 19, 2017
We are approaching one hundred signatures and need to maintain this momentum to prove our collective frustration. Post this link to your Facebook page right now and text three friends to get them to sign.
495 Comments
I totally agree, it should go back to the way it was. Not all of us can afford to pay the taxes on the red book price if we could we would be buying new vehicle's not second hand. We choose second hand as it's what we can afford.
These "bureaucrats " tried to charge us 15% tax on the full price we paid for a vehicle we bought 3 years ago out west ... when we brought it back to nb . Ridiculous ! It's not worth the same as when we bought it ... money grubbing morons .
I don't know why the law even changed, you should pay the tax on the price you paid for the car. We live in a place where a car is rotten from salt after one year. buying a ten year old rust bucket then being charged more in tax than you paid is crooked.
My brother bought a wrecked car ( needed transmission, brakes,glass had 430,000kms) for $500 and SNB valued the car at $6200 and forced him to pay the taxes on their assessment. $930 in taxes for a $500 car that only lasted a few months.
Thievery...that is the only way to explain what SNB does to people trying to put a used car on the road. I had to pay $780 in taxes, book value of $6000 on a car that I paid $200 for from a friend and had to put a ton of work into in order to get it on the road...
We also brought a car for 1300 and they want 750 to change it over to my name . So now the car sits in the yard as we can't afford to change it over . So we wasted 1300 on something we can't drive . This is ridiculous. Very mad .
Its outrageous,
I agree completely
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I totally agree, it should go back to the way it was. Not all of us can afford to pay the taxes on the red book price if we could we would be buying new vehicle's not second hand. We choose second hand as it's what we can afford.