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Final supporters
To Devourer of Souls, game developer of Sigrogana Legends 2:
The
petition of concerned players, users, and supporters draws to your
attention that:
- Metagaming is not allowed as stated on the
game's wiki page. It defines metagaming as utilitizing
out-of-character information in-character. Under various definitions
provided by multiple sources, metagaming isn't strictly confined to
this explanation. What Sarah did can be and is considered as blatant
metagaming, which is in direct violation of the game's rules, and
other roleplaying websites' guidelines. There is also evidence of
this player admitting to doing it.
- Godmodding is not
allowed as stated on the game's wiki page. It defines godmodding as “
when
you force a character or player to react in a certain way”. Under
various definitions provided by multiple sources, godmodding isn't
strictly confined to this explaination. What a certain character has
done in the past (running into an event after bypassing implied
security, posting up an advertisment, and running out in one post
without giving anyone a chance to react) can be and is considered as
blatant godmodding, which is direct violation of the game's rules,
and other roleplaying websites. There is evidence of a GM/ admin
publically stating that these actions were not godmodding.
-
GM/ admin favoritsim is definite in SL2. Allowing for certain players
to openly instigate OOC conflict, metagame, and godmod without
concrete reprecussions is biased. What shouldn't be acceptable for
all players shouldn't be accepted for particular players.
The
petitioners therefore request that Devourer of Souls consider these
reforms:
- To have Romek's arrest appealed.
- Acknowledgement that majority opinion that aforementioned examples are violations of the game's ruling system, including metagaming.
- Reprimending of staff for their lack of executing proper procedures in regards to these violations.
- Banning the involved parties who have violated the game's ruling system for a set amount of time.
- Reconsidering
those appointed as Gms/ admins for the game.
We,
as concerned players, would like to indulge in the right of free
speech. Attempting to stifle well-deserved complaints and critisims
by deleting posts, or the forum thread in its entirety is a direct
infringement on this right; we can gather to the consclusion that you
and your admin team are admitting to fault if this occurs. Inversely,
those who signed this petition and have volunteered their opnions
agree to maturely contribute to the topic at hand. Anyone who does
not abide by this is responsible for the consequences (i.e. being
removed from the conversation.
In conclusion, if these issues
are not addressed by Devourer of Souls, players can allude to a
reluctance to improve the game, and community and react accordingly
(i.e. quitting the game entirely).
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August 16, 2016
I have been reading through all the messages people are sending me about their own experiences with these rule breaks and it is honestly wild how many of you have dealt with this same specific brand of favoritism. The silence from the top is getting louder by the day but I am going to keep digging into the logs to find more proof because none of this should be happening in a game that claims to have actual rules.
17 Comments
I was shown enough evidence, albeit somewhat circumstantial, to agree with this reform. Although I haven't had too many issues with GMs personally, I do agree that they have dealt with too many situations lackadaisically, or have shrugged them off in its entirety. As a near ten year veteran, it's definite when I say that the situation at hand was handled poorly, and barely handled at all by all parties, however especially the GMs.
To keep role-play a natural state of the game, and to keep players from just running over the story of other players. The admin staff need to prevent the use of abusing ooc to punish a player IC. There is no single rp game where this would ever allowed. Allowing this happen just means players gaining positions of powers more liable to abuse it. You need to enforce the situation even if the player who was hurt by the metagaming deserved it. It should've been handle by admin staff or icly by recognizing the problems the person was causing. To cheat to punish him, will only build the foundations of more abuse.
I would like the rule of metagaming, and godmodding to be carefully reinforced to decide a well thought out end result with obvious neutral reasoning not biased ones.
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/degrassi/images/d/dd/Squidwarddd.jpg
Example done.
Hello, just a Floofball here. I'll try and keep this comment as short as I can, albeit having a lot to say. I've been playing SL2 for many a year now, and I've both been a victim and seen far more rubbish stir from afar. A lot of the things that have been said and done on the administrative team's part is not alright, and a fair few decisions that were made should definitely not have even been an option. What happened on SL2 that night, the situation with Romek and Sarah's character that is, is a prime example of what shouldn't be done nor be simply shrugged off. The fact that with solid evidence, nothing is being done about this is absolutely appalling. I implore the administrative team and creator of Sigrogana Legend 2 to rethink their decisions and possess a morally correct proactive stance on this. That is all I have to say, and I am more than willing to part ways from SL2.
As a long time player of SL2, I often enjoy playing for the past few years. However this has been going on for a while. And this time, there is solid proof. This needs to stop.
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Final supporters
To Devourer of Souls, game developer of Sigrogana Legends 2:
The
petition of concerned players, users, and supporters draws to your
attention that:
- Metagaming is not allowed as stated on the
game's wiki page. It defines metagaming as utilitizing
out-of-character information in-character. Under various definitions
provided by multiple sources, metagaming isn't strictly confined to
this explanation. What Sarah did can be and is considered as blatant
metagaming, which is in direct violation of the game's rules, and
other roleplaying websites' guidelines. There is also evidence of
this player admitting to doing it.
- Godmodding is not
allowed as stated on the game's wiki page. It defines godmodding as “
when
you force a character or player to react in a certain way”. Under
various definitions provided by multiple sources, godmodding isn't
strictly confined to this explaination. What a certain character has
done in the past (running into an event after bypassing implied
security, posting up an advertisment, and running out in one post
without giving anyone a chance to react) can be and is considered as
blatant godmodding, which is direct violation of the game's rules,
and other roleplaying websites. There is evidence of a GM/ admin
publically stating that these actions were not godmodding.
-
GM/ admin favoritsim is definite in SL2. Allowing for certain players
to openly instigate OOC conflict, metagame, and godmod without
concrete reprecussions is biased. What shouldn't be acceptable for
all players shouldn't be accepted for particular players.
The
petitioners therefore request that Devourer of Souls consider these
reforms:
- To have Romek's arrest appealed.
- Acknowledgement that majority opinion that aforementioned examples are violations of the game's ruling system, including metagaming.
- Reprimending of staff for their lack of executing proper procedures in regards to these violations.
- Banning the involved parties who have violated the game's ruling system for a set amount of time.
- Reconsidering
those appointed as Gms/ admins for the game.
We,
as concerned players, would like to indulge in the right of free
speech. Attempting to stifle well-deserved complaints and critisims
by deleting posts, or the forum thread in its entirety is a direct
infringement on this right; we can gather to the consclusion that you
and your admin team are admitting to fault if this occurs. Inversely,
those who signed this petition and have volunteered their opnions
agree to maturely contribute to the topic at hand. Anyone who does
not abide by this is responsible for the consequences (i.e. being
removed from the conversation.
In conclusion, if these issues
are not addressed by Devourer of Souls, players can allude to a
reluctance to improve the game, and community and react accordingly
(i.e. quitting the game entirely).
Updates
August 16, 2016
I have been reading through all the messages people are sending me about their own experiences with these rule breaks and it is honestly wild how many of you have dealt with this same specific brand of favoritism. The silence from the top is getting louder by the day but I am going to keep digging into the logs to find more proof because none of this should be happening in a game that claims to have actual rules.
17 Comments
It's one thing to have intentions or plans for a character and to guide the story a certain way, but to have a motivation of simply trying to protect someone's character because they care for it is an entirely different story. The world is a harsh and cruel place, and if you wanted to roleplay in a place where you remained unaffected by the world around you, I would suggest simply doing a private RP with your friends rather than playing an open RP game. Allowing such behavior to continue would only show that SL's judgement on what constitutes as acceptable roleplay is skewed and warped to the point where it's not even an RP game anymore. Instead, it's more or less a MMORPG with an emote function with a big "RP game" sign tacked on for aesthetic.
I was shown enough evidence, albeit somewhat circumstantial, to agree with this reform. Although I haven't had too many issues with GMs personally, I do agree that they have dealt with too many situations lackadaisically, or have shrugged them off in its entirety. As a near ten year veteran, it's definite when I say that the situation at hand was handled poorly, and barely handled at all by all parties, however especially the GMs.
To keep role-play a natural state of the game, and to keep players from just running over the story of other players. The admin staff need to prevent the use of abusing ooc to punish a player IC. There is no single rp game where this would ever allowed. Allowing this happen just means players gaining positions of powers more liable to abuse it. You need to enforce the situation even if the player who was hurt by the metagaming deserved it. It should've been handle by admin staff or icly by recognizing the problems the person was causing. To cheat to punish him, will only build the foundations of more abuse.
I would like the rule of metagaming, and godmodding to be carefully reinforced to decide a well thought out end result with obvious neutral reasoning not biased ones.
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/degrassi/images/d/dd/Squidwarddd.jpg
Example done.
Hello, just a Floofball here. I'll try and keep this comment as short as I can, albeit having a lot to say. I've been playing SL2 for many a year now, and I've both been a victim and seen far more rubbish stir from afar. A lot of the things that have been said and done on the administrative team's part is not alright, and a fair few decisions that were made should definitely not have even been an option. What happened on SL2 that night, the situation with Romek and Sarah's character that is, is a prime example of what shouldn't be done nor be simply shrugged off. The fact that with solid evidence, nothing is being done about this is absolutely appalling. I implore the administrative team and creator of Sigrogana Legend 2 to rethink their decisions and possess a morally correct proactive stance on this. That is all I have to say, and I am more than willing to part ways from SL2.
As a long time player of SL2, I often enjoy playing for the past few years. However this has been going on for a while. And this time, there is solid proof. This needs to stop.
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It's one thing to have intentions or plans for a character and to guide the story a certain way, but to have a motivation of simply trying to protect someone's character because they care for it is an entirely different story. The world is a harsh and cruel place, and if you wanted to roleplay in a place where you remained unaffected by the world around you, I would suggest simply doing a private RP with your friends rather than playing an open RP game. Allowing such behavior to continue would only show that SL's judgement on what constitutes as acceptable roleplay is skewed and warped to the point where it's not even an RP game anymore. Instead, it's more or less a MMORPG with an emote function with a big "RP game" sign tacked on for aesthetic.