Moog has officially confirmed that the Subharmonicon is entering mass production. This success belongs to the community that demonstrated such clear demand for this instrument. We will keep a close watch to ensure the final product remains true to the original design.
May 25, 2019
Final supporters
This petition is for Synth and Eurorack enthusiasts, who finally want to get their hands on their very own Subharmonicon.
Owning a Subharmonicon, I want the public to get their hands on one as well. But Moog won’t put it into production. But to show Moog that there is a demand for it, this petition was created for you to sign and support the Eurorack and Synth community. Now you can continue reading and find out more about the Subharmonicon and its business case, OR you jump right ahead to signing this petition ;)
THANKS for your support!
Why Demand seems to be the determining factor for Moog:
As of April 2019, more than 130k Racks were put together on ModularGrid.net, and the Moog Mother 32 is on 21st place of the most popular modules. Yet, it is rated 73rd place by users.
Thus, perceived quality cannot be the determining factor for Moog to withhold the Subharmonicon from the public.
Potential revenue seems to be less of an issue as well. Considering the Synth sold 8 times on Reverb.com for an average of 1,6k $. Coming back to perceived quality; This figure shows us that 93% of the people who got a Subharmonicon (120 in total), held on to their Synth. Yes, 120 is a rather ridicules sample population of the market, yet their behavior cannot be ignored. Holding on to this Synth, does show us something.
Now considering the markets willingness to pay, and the brand image of Moog, I would like to present the case of Cwejman. His modules are made-to-order and often sell for almost twice their retail price on the secondhand market (Supply and Demand). So, why shouldn't Moog approach the Subharmonicon with a similar business case. Made-to-order increases manufacturing costs, yes. But the market seems to be willing to pay the premium.
So, even though, "The Eurorack scene continues to expand both in terms of the number of modules available as well as synthists putting them to use"*, the assumption arises that the determining factor for Moog in going forward with the production of this Synth is demand.
So, let's give the community a way to raising their voice in the pursuit of the Subharmonicon. This petition being the tool to do so. Please sign for Moog to finally realize that demand exists.
So, either Moog will take action after this petition reaches critical mass, or some other manufacturer will take on the task of cloning it. Should the latter be the case, then I will be more than happy to provide my Subharmonicon for reference in cloning this magnificent beast.
Share this within the community of Synthists and make sure many people start supporting this.
Let's see what Steve Dunnington (creator of the Subharmonicon) and Moog will say once we reach critical mass.
Now please sign, and share with the community!
Many thanks,
Dry Wet Carrot
Sonic Examples of the Subharmonicon:
https://tinyurl.com/LoopopSubharmonicon
https://tinyurl.com/DryWetSubharmonicon
https://tinyurl.com/panfriedSubharmonicon
https://tinyurl.com/LoopopSubharmonicon2
* Quote from: https://reverb.com/news/the-best-selling-synths-an...
Updates
Reached 500 supporters
April 27, 2019
Reached 100 supporters
April 18, 2019
April 16, 2019
The momentum behind this initiative continues to build as we approach the threshold of one hundred signatures. Continued visibility is essential to ensure this request reaches the relevant stakeholders at Moog. Please consider directing others to this page while the current interest remains high.
411 Comments
I own the Mother 32 and DFAM synths and love how they work together. I'm currently using MakeNoise Maths and other Eurorack modules to emulate Subharmonicon, but its clearly not as good as the real thing, which is a fantastic innovation. I'd definitely buy one if Moog were to put Subharmonicon into production!
Would be the perfect match form my Mother 32 and DFAM: And I don't want it be made by no other company except Moog, a company owned by employees, where products are made with heart and soul. I'm willing to pay for this fact...as fast as it is realistic.
this would be a day 1 purchase if made available. its unique emphasis on polyrhythmic activity, sonic possibilities, connectivity, and functionality are all worthy additions to any synthesist's collection. Moog - lets make this happen.
I visited the factory in Asheville a short time ago and they had a Subharmonicon in the warehouse. It was awesome. I would very much like one, but the Moog folks said it wasn't going to happen. Hoping the experts are wrong! You'd have an instant sale from me. Thanks, Matthew
It doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Moog's other Moogfest products to have seen release, yet this one -- which has a lot to offer for the modular synthesist -- still sits idle. To me, though, it seems more like the logical 3rd piece in Moog's 60 hp endeavors. We really do need this to be properly available, and not some rare curiosity.
Please put the Spectravox into production, I have the the trilogy (Mother 32, DFAM and Subharmonicon) and would very much like this in my collection. (If you could do the same for the BFAM also it would be GREATLY APPRECIATED)!!! Thank you.
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Moog has officially confirmed that the Subharmonicon is entering mass production. This success belongs to the community that demonstrated such clear demand for this instrument. We will keep a close watch to ensure the final product remains true to the original design.
May 25, 2019
Final supporters
This petition is for Synth and Eurorack enthusiasts, who finally want to get their hands on their very own Subharmonicon.
Owning a Subharmonicon, I want the public to get their hands on one as well. But Moog won’t put it into production. But to show Moog that there is a demand for it, this petition was created for you to sign and support the Eurorack and Synth community. Now you can continue reading and find out more about the Subharmonicon and its business case, OR you jump right ahead to signing this petition ;)
THANKS for your support!
Why Demand seems to be the determining factor for Moog:
As of April 2019, more than 130k Racks were put together on ModularGrid.net, and the Moog Mother 32 is on 21st place of the most popular modules. Yet, it is rated 73rd place by users.
Thus, perceived quality cannot be the determining factor for Moog to withhold the Subharmonicon from the public.
Potential revenue seems to be less of an issue as well. Considering the Synth sold 8 times on Reverb.com for an average of 1,6k $. Coming back to perceived quality; This figure shows us that 93% of the people who got a Subharmonicon (120 in total), held on to their Synth. Yes, 120 is a rather ridicules sample population of the market, yet their behavior cannot be ignored. Holding on to this Synth, does show us something.
Now considering the markets willingness to pay, and the brand image of Moog, I would like to present the case of Cwejman. His modules are made-to-order and often sell for almost twice their retail price on the secondhand market (Supply and Demand). So, why shouldn't Moog approach the Subharmonicon with a similar business case. Made-to-order increases manufacturing costs, yes. But the market seems to be willing to pay the premium.
So, even though, "The Eurorack scene continues to expand both in terms of the number of modules available as well as synthists putting them to use"*, the assumption arises that the determining factor for Moog in going forward with the production of this Synth is demand.
So, let's give the community a way to raising their voice in the pursuit of the Subharmonicon. This petition being the tool to do so. Please sign for Moog to finally realize that demand exists.
So, either Moog will take action after this petition reaches critical mass, or some other manufacturer will take on the task of cloning it. Should the latter be the case, then I will be more than happy to provide my Subharmonicon for reference in cloning this magnificent beast.
Share this within the community of Synthists and make sure many people start supporting this.
Let's see what Steve Dunnington (creator of the Subharmonicon) and Moog will say once we reach critical mass.
Now please sign, and share with the community!
Many thanks,
Dry Wet Carrot
Sonic Examples of the Subharmonicon:
https://tinyurl.com/LoopopSubharmonicon
https://tinyurl.com/DryWetSubharmonicon
https://tinyurl.com/panfriedSubharmonicon
https://tinyurl.com/LoopopSubharmonicon2
* Quote from: https://reverb.com/news/the-best-selling-synths-an...
Updates
Reached 500 supporters
April 27, 2019
Reached 100 supporters
April 18, 2019
April 16, 2019
The momentum behind this initiative continues to build as we approach the threshold of one hundred signatures. Continued visibility is essential to ensure this request reaches the relevant stakeholders at Moog. Please consider directing others to this page while the current interest remains high.
411 Comments
I have been a Moog fan forever.. From my original Mini, Little Phatty II, Moogerfooger Pedals, Voyager Electric Blue, Mother 32, DFAM, Sirin and now to the Grandmother. Have a Matriarch on order. The Subharmonicon would be a great addition. Please look into building it again. Thanks
I own the Mother 32 and DFAM synths and love how they work together. I'm currently using MakeNoise Maths and other Eurorack modules to emulate Subharmonicon, but its clearly not as good as the real thing, which is a fantastic innovation. I'd definitely buy one if Moog were to put Subharmonicon into production!
Would be the perfect match form my Mother 32 and DFAM: And I don't want it be made by no other company except Moog, a company owned by employees, where products are made with heart and soul. I'm willing to pay for this fact...as fast as it is realistic.
this would be a day 1 purchase if made available. its unique emphasis on polyrhythmic activity, sonic possibilities, connectivity, and functionality are all worthy additions to any synthesist's collection. Moog - lets make this happen.
I visited the factory in Asheville a short time ago and they had a Subharmonicon in the warehouse. It was awesome. I would very much like one, but the Moog folks said it wasn't going to happen. Hoping the experts are wrong! You'd have an instant sale from me. Thanks, Matthew
It doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Moog's other Moogfest products to have seen release, yet this one -- which has a lot to offer for the modular synthesist -- still sits idle. To me, though, it seems more like the logical 3rd piece in Moog's 60 hp endeavors. We really do need this to be properly available, and not some rare curiosity.
Please put the Spectravox into production, I have the the trilogy (Mother 32, DFAM and Subharmonicon) and would very much like this in my collection. (If you could do the same for the BFAM also it would be GREATLY APPRECIATED)!!! Thank you.
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I have been a Moog fan forever.. From my original Mini, Little Phatty II, Moogerfooger Pedals, Voyager Electric Blue, Mother 32, DFAM, Sirin and now to the Grandmother. Have a Matriarch on order. The Subharmonicon would be a great addition. Please look into building it again. Thanks