Reinstate Free Speech at the University of Edinburgh
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Ewen McLay
10 years ago
Absolutely supported. If one of the best of our universities lacks the the confidence to allow debate, then we're in trouble. Serious trouble.
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Magdalen Berns
10 years ago
"Safe space" censorship is also an issue for marginalised students because EUSA promotes a deeply unhealthy cult-like consensus toward politics via its student "liberation" groups; that includes bans on any students who express dissent, allowing totalitarian NUS policy to progress through EUSA council, unchallenged.
EUSA needs to figure out how to become more accountable to its 30,000 students instead of letting the NUS dictate that students should be banned from expressing ourselves and our views, like this.
"Safe space" no platforming must be abolished absolutely.
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Caleb Powell
10 years ago
Let's progress, not regress.
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Sean Macmillan
10 years ago
I really think it's vital that Uni's are spaces of intellectual expression and freedom of thought. This is a slippery slope.
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Anonymous
10 years ago
I disagree, and so you should be allowed too
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Stuart McKenzie
10 years ago
EUSA are fascist scum.
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Hypatia
10 years ago
as a woman and as a transwoman I feel there are more important things to be offended by than crossdressing
anyone who is that offended by something so trivial needs to get a life
Also who exactly is being protected by this rule and from what
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Andrew MacKenzie
10 years ago
The right to not be offended by anything, ever, is not a universal human right.
However, freedom of expression, thought and speech ARE.
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Anonymous
10 years ago
Edinburgh was the home of the Enlightenment. Many did not agree with them then, but they were free to discuss such a variety of topics without censorship.
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John Trainor
10 years ago
Freedom of expression above all should be defended in seats of learning!
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Steven Lewington
10 years ago
Should we ban jokes as well?
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Rachel Lawson
10 years ago
As a trans woman, I find it completely bizarre to attempt to ban guys dragging up at events.
Please realise that rules such as this just make you look officious.
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Vit Eese
10 years ago
I studied at EDI Uni in early 1990's. censorship was apparent even then: no Daily or Sunday Telegraph in EUML
Stop the censorship. Allow free speech and access in EUML & EUSA to all UK newspapers.
No "safe spaces", open debate anywhere.
Fancy dress is fun, stop censoring it. What next? Only real trans can dress as opposite gender?
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George Willey
10 years ago
In the 1980s the EUSA had more than it's fair share of narrow minded inadequates and things seem to have got a lot worse since then. Good luck!
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Lewis Johnston
10 years ago
This is just getting silly, this finding offence in everything has to end.
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John Wallace
10 years ago
Eff the student union reps. All o them.
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Dr Christopher Nicol
10 years ago
The clowns of PC need putting in their prams.
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Christoffer Aminoff
10 years ago
EUSA needs to learn that that there is no such thing as a right not to be offended and that the only society worth living in is one in which even your deepest feelings can be trodden upon. Only that way can there be a free marketplace of ideas where good ideas can beat bad ideas. As a fresher I am alarmed that EUSA, which is supposed to represent me and to defend free speech, is now among the worst suppressors of it, creating policy after policy an ever more toxic atmosphere for it.
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Lot of fuckin dudes here
10 years ago
this petition is kinda a sausage fest
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The Cast of Dawsons Creek
10 years ago
Preheat your oven to 450°F.
Combine the dry ingredients in a bowl, or in the bowl of a food processor.
Cut the butter into chunks and cut into the flour until it resembles course meal.
If using a food processor, just pulse a few times until this consistency is achieved.
Add the buttermilk and mix JUST until combined.
If it appears on the dry side, add a bit more buttermilk. It should be very wet.
Turn the dough out onto a floured board.
Gently, gently PAT (do NOT roll with a rolling pin) the dough out until it's about 1/2" thick. Fold the dough about 5 times, gently press the dough down to a 1 inch thick.
Use a round cutter to cut into rounds.
You can gently knead the scraps together and make a few more, but they will not be anywhere near as good as the first ones.
Place the biscuits on a cookie sheet- if you like soft sides, put them touching each other.
If you like"crusty" sides, put them about 1 inch apart- these will not rise as high as the biscuits put close together.
Bake for about 10-12 minutes- the biscuits will be a beautiful light golden brown on top and bottom.
Do not overbake.
Note: The key to real biscuits is not in the ingredients, but in the handling of the dough.
The dough must be handled as little as possible or you will have tough biscuits.
I have found that a food processor produces superior biscuits, because the ingredients stay colder and there's less chance of overmixing.
You also must pat the dough out with your hands, lightly.
Rolling with a rolling pin is a guaranteed way to overstimulate the gluten, resulting in a tougher biscuit.
Note 2: You can make these biscuits, cut them, put them on cookie sheets and freeze them for up to a month.
When you want fresh biscuits, simply place them frozen on the cookie sheet and bake at 450°F for about 20 minutes.
Absolutely supported. If one of the best of our universities lacks the the confidence to allow debate, then we're in trouble. Serious trouble.
"Safe space" censorship is also an issue for marginalised students because EUSA promotes a deeply unhealthy cult-like consensus toward politics via its student "liberation" groups; that includes bans on any students who express dissent, allowing totalitarian NUS policy to progress through EUSA council, unchallenged. EUSA needs to figure out how to become more accountable to its 30,000 students instead of letting the NUS dictate that students should be banned from expressing ourselves and our views, like this. "Safe space" no platforming must be abolished absolutely.
Let's progress, not regress.
I really think it's vital that Uni's are spaces of intellectual expression and freedom of thought. This is a slippery slope.
I disagree, and so you should be allowed too
EUSA are fascist scum.
as a woman and as a transwoman I feel there are more important things to be offended by than crossdressing anyone who is that offended by something so trivial needs to get a life Also who exactly is being protected by this rule and from what
The right to not be offended by anything, ever, is not a universal human right. However, freedom of expression, thought and speech ARE.
Edinburgh was the home of the Enlightenment. Many did not agree with them then, but they were free to discuss such a variety of topics without censorship.
Freedom of expression above all should be defended in seats of learning!
Should we ban jokes as well?
As a trans woman, I find it completely bizarre to attempt to ban guys dragging up at events. Please realise that rules such as this just make you look officious.
I studied at EDI Uni in early 1990's. censorship was apparent even then: no Daily or Sunday Telegraph in EUML Stop the censorship. Allow free speech and access in EUML & EUSA to all UK newspapers. No "safe spaces", open debate anywhere. Fancy dress is fun, stop censoring it. What next? Only real trans can dress as opposite gender?
In the 1980s the EUSA had more than it's fair share of narrow minded inadequates and things seem to have got a lot worse since then. Good luck!
This is just getting silly, this finding offence in everything has to end.
Eff the student union reps. All o them.
The clowns of PC need putting in their prams.
EUSA needs to learn that that there is no such thing as a right not to be offended and that the only society worth living in is one in which even your deepest feelings can be trodden upon. Only that way can there be a free marketplace of ideas where good ideas can beat bad ideas. As a fresher I am alarmed that EUSA, which is supposed to represent me and to defend free speech, is now among the worst suppressors of it, creating policy after policy an ever more toxic atmosphere for it.
this petition is kinda a sausage fest
Preheat your oven to 450°F. Combine the dry ingredients in a bowl, or in the bowl of a food processor. Cut the butter into chunks and cut into the flour until it resembles course meal. If using a food processor, just pulse a few times until this consistency is achieved. Add the buttermilk and mix JUST until combined. If it appears on the dry side, add a bit more buttermilk. It should be very wet. Turn the dough out onto a floured board. Gently, gently PAT (do NOT roll with a rolling pin) the dough out until it's about 1/2" thick. Fold the dough about 5 times, gently press the dough down to a 1 inch thick. Use a round cutter to cut into rounds. You can gently knead the scraps together and make a few more, but they will not be anywhere near as good as the first ones. Place the biscuits on a cookie sheet- if you like soft sides, put them touching each other. If you like"crusty" sides, put them about 1 inch apart- these will not rise as high as the biscuits put close together. Bake for about 10-12 minutes- the biscuits will be a beautiful light golden brown on top and bottom. Do not overbake. Note: The key to real biscuits is not in the ingredients, but in the handling of the dough. The dough must be handled as little as possible or you will have tough biscuits. I have found that a food processor produces superior biscuits, because the ingredients stay colder and there's less chance of overmixing. You also must pat the dough out with your hands, lightly. Rolling with a rolling pin is a guaranteed way to overstimulate the gluten, resulting in a tougher biscuit. Note 2: You can make these biscuits, cut them, put them on cookie sheets and freeze them for up to a month. When you want fresh biscuits, simply place them frozen on the cookie sheet and bake at 450°F for about 20 minutes.