Hoping that next year we can succeed in overcomimg this crazy rule !
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Leo Reynders
11 years ago
The problem is not that F1C models fly too high, the problem is that some, sometimes return to the ground too soon (and too fast!). SAFETY is the priority and for that reason RELIABILITY is the priority. Instead of reducing the motor run I propose to drop the 20 sec rule: When the model touches the ground the flight is finished, whatever the flight time, and no second trial. This will strongly stimulate development towards more reliable and thus safer models.
To further stimulate safety I also propose that, if the model touches the ground within the first 20 seconds, it has to be in DT mode, whatever technique is used to activate the DT (radio control, altitude sensor, position sensor…) This would imply that RDT remains very useful but does not have to be mandatory. The competitor just has to make sure his model is safe and even old (but safe) models without RDT can continue to be used. Penalty for early ground contact in non DT mode could for example be a zero score for the next round up to disqualification for the contest.
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Szécsényi János
11 years ago
Milyen szabály részek változtak és milyen határidővel? Itthon semmilyen információról nem tudok .Egy körlevélben informálni kellett volna a hazai versenyzőket a mihez tartás végett . Úgy látszik vezetőink ezt nem tartják fontosnak .Kérlek küldj a "C"-ről és a "Q"-ról információt . Előre is köszönöm : János
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David Loveday
11 years ago
I voted against this rule change at the 2015 CIAM meeting , and am still against this rule change
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EDUARDO CLAUDIO OGURA
11 years ago
Reducing the time, only benefits having less competitors.
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Ricardo Palmieri
11 years ago
Argentina
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Mario Palmieri
11 years ago
Argentina
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Anonymous
11 years ago
Reducing the engine run from 7 seconds has always yielded negative results, as far as enjoyment.
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Maurer Peter Suisse
11 years ago
Gegen 4 sec..
Das Alter der Konkurrenten regelt die Kategorie von selber.
Lücke zwischen Durchschnittpiloten und der Spitze wird noch grösser und teurer!
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Chuck Etherington
11 years ago
Reducing the enjoyment of the event will outweigh the benefits of reducing performance.
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Sigurd Seydel
11 years ago
Contra the 4 sec.
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Gauthier Brière
11 years ago
The final step will probably be 0 second... Why not stop the engine just at the model release ?
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Mascard Henri France,31130BALMA
11 years ago
Contre les 4 secondes.
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Pieter de Boer
11 years ago
back to 5s please, after that we should start foundations and arqumentations for F1C rules for all flying fans
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MARROT Pierre
11 years ago
contre les 4 secondes
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Gerhard Aringer
11 years ago
After 4 second rule 3 more steps can follow: 3 second rule => 2 second rule => 1 second rule. In the past we made already 3 second engine run in fly-off (me and Rolf Stäbler in Cambrai) that has nothing to do with F1C flying.
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Lammersmann
11 years ago
Once again a rule change, which will reduce active model flyer and possibly new young flyers... pls stay on 5 sec rule
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Протасов Сергей
11 years ago
Год назад вернулся в F1C, построил четыре самолёта, купил моторы и оборудование. Всё коту под хвост.
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Ross Jahnke
11 years ago
This change seem to favor the folders, flappers and geared engines. It was not thoroughly thought through.
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Siromyatnikov Dmitry
11 years ago
Новые правила "убьют" массовость в классе F-1-С.
Класс F-1-c и так самый немногочисленный в авиамодельном спорте , а с приходом новых правил молодых спортсменов станет ещё меньше или их вовсе не будет. Новые правила ведут в тупик развитие в авиамодельном спорте класса f-1-с. New rules "kill" mass in the class F-1-C.
Class F-1-c, and so very few in the sport model airplane, but with the advent of new regulations of young athletes will be even less or not be. The new rules lead to a deadlock in the development of the sport model airplane class F-1-c.
Hoping that next year we can succeed in overcomimg this crazy rule !
The problem is not that F1C models fly too high, the problem is that some, sometimes return to the ground too soon (and too fast!). SAFETY is the priority and for that reason RELIABILITY is the priority. Instead of reducing the motor run I propose to drop the 20 sec rule: When the model touches the ground the flight is finished, whatever the flight time, and no second trial. This will strongly stimulate development towards more reliable and thus safer models. To further stimulate safety I also propose that, if the model touches the ground within the first 20 seconds, it has to be in DT mode, whatever technique is used to activate the DT (radio control, altitude sensor, position sensor…) This would imply that RDT remains very useful but does not have to be mandatory. The competitor just has to make sure his model is safe and even old (but safe) models without RDT can continue to be used. Penalty for early ground contact in non DT mode could for example be a zero score for the next round up to disqualification for the contest.
Milyen szabály részek változtak és milyen határidővel? Itthon semmilyen információról nem tudok .Egy körlevélben informálni kellett volna a hazai versenyzőket a mihez tartás végett . Úgy látszik vezetőink ezt nem tartják fontosnak .Kérlek küldj a "C"-ről és a "Q"-ról információt . Előre is köszönöm : János
I voted against this rule change at the 2015 CIAM meeting , and am still against this rule change
Reducing the time, only benefits having less competitors.
Argentina
Argentina
Reducing the engine run from 7 seconds has always yielded negative results, as far as enjoyment.
Gegen 4 sec.. Das Alter der Konkurrenten regelt die Kategorie von selber. Lücke zwischen Durchschnittpiloten und der Spitze wird noch grösser und teurer!
Reducing the enjoyment of the event will outweigh the benefits of reducing performance.
Contra the 4 sec.
The final step will probably be 0 second... Why not stop the engine just at the model release ?
Contre les 4 secondes.
back to 5s please, after that we should start foundations and arqumentations for F1C rules for all flying fans
contre les 4 secondes
After 4 second rule 3 more steps can follow: 3 second rule => 2 second rule => 1 second rule. In the past we made already 3 second engine run in fly-off (me and Rolf Stäbler in Cambrai) that has nothing to do with F1C flying.
Once again a rule change, which will reduce active model flyer and possibly new young flyers... pls stay on 5 sec rule
Год назад вернулся в F1C, построил четыре самолёта, купил моторы и оборудование. Всё коту под хвост.
This change seem to favor the folders, flappers and geared engines. It was not thoroughly thought through.
Новые правила "убьют" массовость в классе F-1-С. Класс F-1-c и так самый немногочисленный в авиамодельном спорте , а с приходом новых правил молодых спортсменов станет ещё меньше или их вовсе не будет. Новые правила ведут в тупик развитие в авиамодельном спорте класса f-1-с. New rules "kill" mass in the class F-1-C. Class F-1-c, and so very few in the sport model airplane, but with the advent of new regulations of young athletes will be even less or not be. The new rules lead to a deadlock in the development of the sport model airplane class F-1-c.