They actually listened and fully reversed the study hall restrictions so the rooms are opening back up for everyone again. It feels surreal that my laptop was just sitting there with all those signatures and now the administration is actually backing down. Keep an eye on the building access logs …
March 16, 2017
Final supporters
In light of recent events, my colleagues and I felt the need to speak out with our dissatisfaction with the new dorm room study rules. We do understand the frustrations that have occurred concerning the dorm study rooms and that multiple solutions have been brought up but nothing has been successful. To ban them from 2nd-7th semester students seems like an excessive option considering the already limited study space we have on this campus.
We understand that first semester/VP students often don’t have cars to get around on the island but allowing 1st semester/VP students who live off campus to come back and use the rooms is creating a double standard. Why are those students allowed but not others? I know most of the students that live off campus and come back to study during the weekends/night times do so solely for the use of the free AC. Personally, I don’t have a suitable study space in my apartment, let alone the funds to spare to fully air condition my home. Dorm study rooms allowed 24-hour access (something which is very limited) to study in. Banning students from using the rooms would lead to a lot of wasted space and empty rooms, especially during exam weeks/finals.
Dorm rooms allow for group discussion, which is an integral part of many students’ study habits. I know there are rooms available for reservation in the library, but with all the TA/tutor groups, interviews and discussions for research projects, and small student study groups, it’s hard to find a time that works without constantly checking the schedule at the circulation desk in the library. Again, after the library is closed, most of those rooms become off limits to students anyway.
The LRC provides a good amount of quiet study space but isn’t available to students 24 hours a day. Also during exams, it’s not open at all during the day time. Even when it is open, food and drink are not allowed (Not allowed in the library or 24-hour room either). This may not seem like a big deal but when you are studying for 8+ hours at a time, a snack is a good study break.
I know the main purpose of the dorm study rooms is not entertainment, but there are TVs and cable available which many of us don’t have the luxury of enjoying at our apartments. If you ban the majority of students from using these rooms, you are also banning that feature.
There are other options to help with the current situations occurring in the dorm study rooms. Sign in sheets, patrolling by security or RAs that live there, offering spaces up to be “rented” out for 24 hours are just a few ideas we have had. We would really love to work something different out besides banning the majority of the school population. If this is something you feel like is the ONLY solution, could there be any possibility of allowing only 2nd-7th semester students in the library/LATF since 1st semester and VP students have the dorm rooms and the anatomy lab? We aren’t completely disregarding the issue of people camping out but we feel as if there should be proper protocols tried before we go to this last, drastic option.
The main issue this all boils down to is the lack of adequate study spaces on campus. If Ross is going to continue to admit 170+ size classes every semester, something clearly needs to be changed. Banning the majority of the student body out of crucial space obviously isn’t the correct answer.
If you are interested, I would be willing to discuss this in person. I appreciate you taking the time to read this email and look forward to your response.
Updates
February 6, 2017
I really thought this might just fizzle out but seeing how many people actually care about having a place to study is honestly kind of overwhelming. I have been scrolling through the comments all morning and it is wild to see that I am not the only person stressing about this double standard because it feels like we finally have some real momentum now.
Reached 100 supporters
February 6, 2017
22 Comments
Please sign this if you haven't already....paying over $30,000 per TRIMESTER should invariably include viable on campus study rooms, especially for upper semester students who are taking on a much more strenuous course load as compared to the 1st semester students they are being allocated for. As a student in a doctorate program, I expect this as a minimum for my education and I'm repulsed that it has come down to this.
My concern with this rule, is it sets up an ''us vs them" mentality on our campus. I realize we already have divides between the semesters, and we won't always get along. However, group-friendly AC'ed study space is a scarce resource, and I feel this will cause more of a rift than bring benefit.
I used the study rooms in 7th semester more than when I was in any other semester. It helped me fit in what little studying time I had in 7th between checking on my patients. I went with a group of friends and we helped each other study and go over our surgical procedures.
I am in Vet Prep and I think we should all be allowed to use this, it also allows for 1st/VP to build connections with 2-7th, something that I think is extremely important with development of professional skills for down the road.
I believe there is actually too much silent study space in proportion to the amount of study space available to us. The dorms crate an option where we can talk/discuss, eat, and have use of a white board all to ourselves. PLEASE reconsider banning all of us because these open rooms have been a crucial part of my studying for now 2.5 years.
I agree with everything but I do have another ideal input. I feel the purpose of the study rooms is mainly for people that live off campus and have long breaks between classes and need a place to study. I don't see how students who already live on campus need these spaces this badly, their apartments are right around the corner. Maybe a better short term solution would've been to allow a certain building for 1st and vet prep and the rest exclusively for 2nd-7th, only until they find better study areas.
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They actually listened and fully reversed the study hall restrictions so the rooms are opening back up for everyone again. It feels surreal that my laptop was just sitting there with all those signatures and now the administration is actually backing down. Keep an eye on the building access logs …
March 16, 2017
Final supporters
In light of recent events, my colleagues and I felt the need to speak out with our dissatisfaction with the new dorm room study rules. We do understand the frustrations that have occurred concerning the dorm study rooms and that multiple solutions have been brought up but nothing has been successful. To ban them from 2nd-7th semester students seems like an excessive option considering the already limited study space we have on this campus.
We understand that first semester/VP students often don’t have cars to get around on the island but allowing 1st semester/VP students who live off campus to come back and use the rooms is creating a double standard. Why are those students allowed but not others? I know most of the students that live off campus and come back to study during the weekends/night times do so solely for the use of the free AC. Personally, I don’t have a suitable study space in my apartment, let alone the funds to spare to fully air condition my home. Dorm study rooms allowed 24-hour access (something which is very limited) to study in. Banning students from using the rooms would lead to a lot of wasted space and empty rooms, especially during exam weeks/finals.
Dorm rooms allow for group discussion, which is an integral part of many students’ study habits. I know there are rooms available for reservation in the library, but with all the TA/tutor groups, interviews and discussions for research projects, and small student study groups, it’s hard to find a time that works without constantly checking the schedule at the circulation desk in the library. Again, after the library is closed, most of those rooms become off limits to students anyway.
The LRC provides a good amount of quiet study space but isn’t available to students 24 hours a day. Also during exams, it’s not open at all during the day time. Even when it is open, food and drink are not allowed (Not allowed in the library or 24-hour room either). This may not seem like a big deal but when you are studying for 8+ hours at a time, a snack is a good study break.
I know the main purpose of the dorm study rooms is not entertainment, but there are TVs and cable available which many of us don’t have the luxury of enjoying at our apartments. If you ban the majority of students from using these rooms, you are also banning that feature.
There are other options to help with the current situations occurring in the dorm study rooms. Sign in sheets, patrolling by security or RAs that live there, offering spaces up to be “rented” out for 24 hours are just a few ideas we have had. We would really love to work something different out besides banning the majority of the school population. If this is something you feel like is the ONLY solution, could there be any possibility of allowing only 2nd-7th semester students in the library/LATF since 1st semester and VP students have the dorm rooms and the anatomy lab? We aren’t completely disregarding the issue of people camping out but we feel as if there should be proper protocols tried before we go to this last, drastic option.
The main issue this all boils down to is the lack of adequate study spaces on campus. If Ross is going to continue to admit 170+ size classes every semester, something clearly needs to be changed. Banning the majority of the student body out of crucial space obviously isn’t the correct answer.
If you are interested, I would be willing to discuss this in person. I appreciate you taking the time to read this email and look forward to your response.
Updates
February 6, 2017
I really thought this might just fizzle out but seeing how many people actually care about having a place to study is honestly kind of overwhelming. I have been scrolling through the comments all morning and it is wild to see that I am not the only person stressing about this double standard because it feels like we finally have some real momentum now.
Reached 100 supporters
February 6, 2017
22 Comments
Might I also suggest banning these rooms from 2nd-7th semester students AFTER building more suitable study locations for all students. There is already a limited amount of space, perhaps we can consider the option of only allowing 1st semester and VP in the dorm study halls once we have additional study spaces to accommodate all of the currnent student population.
Please sign this if you haven't already....paying over $30,000 per TRIMESTER should invariably include viable on campus study rooms, especially for upper semester students who are taking on a much more strenuous course load as compared to the 1st semester students they are being allocated for. As a student in a doctorate program, I expect this as a minimum for my education and I'm repulsed that it has come down to this.
My concern with this rule, is it sets up an ''us vs them" mentality on our campus. I realize we already have divides between the semesters, and we won't always get along. However, group-friendly AC'ed study space is a scarce resource, and I feel this will cause more of a rift than bring benefit.
I used the study rooms in 7th semester more than when I was in any other semester. It helped me fit in what little studying time I had in 7th between checking on my patients. I went with a group of friends and we helped each other study and go over our surgical procedures.
I am in Vet Prep and I think we should all be allowed to use this, it also allows for 1st/VP to build connections with 2-7th, something that I think is extremely important with development of professional skills for down the road.
I believe there is actually too much silent study space in proportion to the amount of study space available to us. The dorms crate an option where we can talk/discuss, eat, and have use of a white board all to ourselves. PLEASE reconsider banning all of us because these open rooms have been a crucial part of my studying for now 2.5 years.
I agree with everything but I do have another ideal input. I feel the purpose of the study rooms is mainly for people that live off campus and have long breaks between classes and need a place to study. I don't see how students who already live on campus need these spaces this badly, their apartments are right around the corner. Maybe a better short term solution would've been to allow a certain building for 1st and vet prep and the rest exclusively for 2nd-7th, only until they find better study areas.
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Might I also suggest banning these rooms from 2nd-7th semester students AFTER building more suitable study locations for all students. There is already a limited amount of space, perhaps we can consider the option of only allowing 1st semester and VP in the dorm study halls once we have additional study spaces to accommodate all of the currnent student population.