I emailed the staff at Dark Age of Camelot, and here's what I sent and what was replied: Hello Roy, Thank you for your feedback. I will attempt to answer your questions: >> How many people on a petition would cause you to bring daoc up to speed graphicswise with other mmo's, and to try doing a relaunch of the game Unfortunately, it would likely require several thousand to justify economically that type of reinvestment. >> World of Warcraft is losing a LOT of players due to the pvp being total stupidity, and with dark age of camelot's massive pve content and the rvr system, I have a feeling you could seriously put a dent in blizzards wallet if you came back out of the dark corner and did some commercials and updating of the game. Commercials require a huge budget, costing several hundred thousand to millions of dollars. I have started a dialog with our marketing department regarding what we can do marketing-wise with our current budget. I canâ