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May 17, 2021

Changing the NYS Sportsman's Pistol Permit To Full Conceal Carry

Changing the NYS Sportsman's Pistol Permit To Full Conceal Carry

🏆 Won — 99 supporters Verified

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Started by Anonymous 13 years, 5 months ago

We want to change the law from the reasons/statement below to add Self-Prtotection being a proper reason and the standard for Onondaga County and New York State. The law currently reads as follows and needs to bemodified adding self-defense as a legal reason to carry concealed.

Rev 04-01-13 “Proper Cause” for a “Carry Concealed” Pistol License The New York State Legislature restricts the types of pistol licenses that the court may issue to NYS Pistol License Holders. Under NYS Penal Law Section 400.00 (1): 1. Possession in a dwelling by a householder 2. Possession in a place of business by a merchant or storekeeper 3. have and carry concealed while employed as a messenger of a banking institution 4. have and carry concealed by an employee while on duty in a correctional facility 5. have and carry concealed, without regard to employment or place of possession, by any person when proper cause exists for the issuance thereof. If your application seeks what is popularly known as a “have and carry concealed” without limitation pistol license, the New York State Legislature authorizes the court to approve it only where it meets the “proper cause” standard. Appellate court decisions binding upon the pistol licensing officer define “proper cause” for the issuance of a “have and carry concealed” without limitation pistol license as grounds which demonstrate “a special need for self-protection distinguishable from that of the general community or a person engaged in the same profession. (Matter of Kaplan vs. Branton, 249 AD2d199 (1st Dept. 1998). Pistol license applications should be aware that if you apply for a pistol license for a particular purpose, then it will be limited to that purpose. Also, if you desire a licensed for self-protection you would be advised to apply for an on-premise license. This is not a carry license and restricts the possession of the handgun to the dwelling or place of business listed in the application. No application will be issued an unrestricted carry permit unless he/she is able to demonstrate a special need for the issuance thereof. Self-protection is not a sufficient need for the issuance of a carry concealed license. A statement of grounds which meet the test of “proper cause”, i.e. “a special need for self-protection distinguishable from that of the general community or of persons engaged in the same profession”, is necessary in order for the licensing officer to apply the law as enacted by the Legislature and interpreted by the higher Courts. As there is limited space available on the application form for a statement of “proper cause”, an “Optional Statement” form has been provided with this information sheet should you wish to supplement your application beyond the form.

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May 1, 2021

The momentum behind this push is undeniable and it proves that the people are done begging the state for the right to defend their own lives. We have caught the attention of the bureaucrats who want to keep us vulnerable. They can ignore our rights for now but they cannot ignore the growing roar of people demanding common sense.

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James R Aureli
4 years ago Featured

I can carry my pistol concealed while fishing, but not to the gas station? What about me being a back ground checked responsible citizen, changes between the my home and the gas station or the grocery store?

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Christopher DeJohn
5 years ago Featured

As a responsible permit holder since '03, I have never understood the premise that If Im approved to own and use a handgun, why am I not allowed to carry it on my person at all times? Why should my right to carry and use my handguns stop in the field or at the range? Am I only capable in a sporting setting? I know the laws and feel it is my 2nd amendment right to not only keep and bear arms, but to have the right to carry on my person whenever I feel the need or desire to. We, as law abiding citizens deserve the freedom to carry, and the right to personal protection should the need to protect occur.

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johnny newby
7 years ago Featured

I have had a carry for 35 yrs now they want to change to a sports man ny state is crazy

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Richard Lickfield
9 years ago Featured

It is our right as United States citizens to keep and bear arms. This right has been given us so that we might always be able to fight a government that wishes to control the people rather than be controlled by the people. All men are created equal, whether they live in New York or Texas. We demand our rights the same as our brothers have.

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Callahan Amidon
10 years ago Featured

I don't think it's right that Onondaga county can't or won't hand out cc permits but all surrounding counties do! And the license is a New York license, doesn't make spence that the counties can impose unlawfull restrictions on it.

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Robert Lent
10 years ago Featured

I asked for a carry permit jump thro all their hoop back ground checks and ended up with sportsman!!!

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Anonymous
6 years ago

2nd ammendment

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Philip Ciufo Valerie P Ciufo
8 years ago

We have our CCW's from several states including NYS. Sneaky way to curb permits. Get constitutional NYS!