It’s unfair to change the grading quota because everyone did a great job this year. The grading quota should be the same with all previous years.
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Yvonne Nguyen
6 years ago
Absolutely unacceptable. Thank you William for taking action and leading us.
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Austin Aylwin
6 years ago
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As a U of A graduate, I have firsthand experience with professors altering final grades so as to appease their subjective standing and reputation. It is ethically unsound to change grades once they are posted without just cause, given that students rely on these posted marks to apply for jobs and furthering their career. Given that the purpose of University is to assist with exactly this, the professor’s decision to abruptly change final grades is both unfair and counterintuitive to U of A’s mission statement. I sincerely hope things are set right, as I don’t want to be disappointed in my alma mater.
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Michael D
6 years ago
I can’t be there because I just flew into Edmonton from my coop job training. I’m sorry for the lengthy comment but I find it absolutely warranted to give my full opinion on the matter.
I find it extremely unprofessional to be passing along grade cutoffs without actually knowing if they were approved or not (as did Mrs. Liu). This can have serious ramifications for students attempting to get into professional programs or coops who rely on swift knowledge of their grades.
I also found the lack of explanation regarding why we received particular grades on assignments (case, and news report) to be unsatisfactory. Teachers should never be allowed to give a mark that’s below 100% on a presentation or written paper without providing feedback on why. I received a grade of 9/10 on my case presentation with no comment or feedback on why, and this 10% deduction made me fall below the 93% threshold for an A.
Lastly, previous sections of Buec342 with RunJuan Liu in recent years ( Fall 2017 to be exact) have had averages as high as 3.6. It’s statistically impossible that our class performance itself warranted such a dramatic shift, and we were explicitly told in class she would assign letter grades to hit an average of B+. I asked her this question on the last class and this was the response she gave.
I’m sure to an extent this isn’t Runjuan’s fault, but there does need to accountability on all parties. Is it really that hard to add a note on the syllabus that class average has to fall between “X and X”? Sadly we are the ones who the department decided to randomly screw over over the past 2/3 years of this course being offered.
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Peter Kope
6 years ago
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Don’t really like it when teachers lie to students..... not setting a very good example
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Justus Otto
6 years ago
There is no way this should be allowed
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Calum Magico
6 years ago
I fully agree and support the statements provided by William.
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Michelle Pulak
6 years ago
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I am extremely disappointed and frustrated with this situation. I was given a grade in December which I was told would be officially published on my transcript (via bear tracks grades) and therefore began my job search with COOP. I calculated my expected GPA, where I relied on the grade that I was given, and applied to jobs using that GPA. I now have a lower GPA as of yesterday, and therefore I am now made out to be a liar. I am very upset with this. I find it extremely unfair that I did not have my grades back BEFORE the winter 2020 semester, as this would never have happened. This just be fixed.
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Piero Tagliente
6 years ago
The letter grades should remain how they were previously and this mistake should only be fixed the next time this class is offered.
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Jill Sundquist
6 years ago
I agree with William and appreciate him taking action on this and giving us a way to get involved.
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Anonymous
6 years ago
Thank you for taking the time to deal with this matter! Couldn't make it today.
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Siyi Fang
6 years ago
Supporting William. It’s unfair suddenly change to a unreasonable grade scale. Hope change it back to the original one!
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Valentin Maeurer
6 years ago
Feel the exact same way! Random and unreasonable...
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Jack Gilroy
6 years ago
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Not able to make it today because of a class time conflict but I stand by this petition. I was thoroughly pissed off when seeing her grade change and am glad William took the time to fight this.
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Max Deptuck
6 years ago
Being given a grade, and then having that grade suddenly decreased seems very unfair. Supporting William Su and appreciating him taking steps to help all of us affecting by this change.
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Dean Hammond
6 years ago
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This is extremely unfair and effects my outlook on careers. It is a shame I achieved what I thought would be one grade, to only get moved down for no apparent reason.
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William Su
· petition starter
6 years ago
These circumstances are completely unreasonable and I can not accept them. I want this to change.
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Ryan Budiab
6 years ago
Supporting William in an unfair and sudden change to the grading distribution in BUEC 342.
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Thomas Cassie
6 years ago
Supporting William Su and my fellow students in Buec 342 to have letter grades shifted back to originally reported.
It’s unfair to change the grading quota because everyone did a great job this year. The grading quota should be the same with all previous years.
Absolutely unacceptable. Thank you William for taking action and leading us.
As a U of A graduate, I have firsthand experience with professors altering final grades so as to appease their subjective standing and reputation. It is ethically unsound to change grades once they are posted without just cause, given that students rely on these posted marks to apply for jobs and furthering their career. Given that the purpose of University is to assist with exactly this, the professor’s decision to abruptly change final grades is both unfair and counterintuitive to U of A’s mission statement. I sincerely hope things are set right, as I don’t want to be disappointed in my alma mater.
I can’t be there because I just flew into Edmonton from my coop job training. I’m sorry for the lengthy comment but I find it absolutely warranted to give my full opinion on the matter. I find it extremely unprofessional to be passing along grade cutoffs without actually knowing if they were approved or not (as did Mrs. Liu). This can have serious ramifications for students attempting to get into professional programs or coops who rely on swift knowledge of their grades. I also found the lack of explanation regarding why we received particular grades on assignments (case, and news report) to be unsatisfactory. Teachers should never be allowed to give a mark that’s below 100% on a presentation or written paper without providing feedback on why. I received a grade of 9/10 on my case presentation with no comment or feedback on why, and this 10% deduction made me fall below the 93% threshold for an A. Lastly, previous sections of Buec342 with RunJuan Liu in recent years ( Fall 2017 to be exact) have had averages as high as 3.6. It’s statistically impossible that our class performance itself warranted such a dramatic shift, and we were explicitly told in class she would assign letter grades to hit an average of B+. I asked her this question on the last class and this was the response she gave. I’m sure to an extent this isn’t Runjuan’s fault, but there does need to accountability on all parties. Is it really that hard to add a note on the syllabus that class average has to fall between “X and X”? Sadly we are the ones who the department decided to randomly screw over over the past 2/3 years of this course being offered.
Don’t really like it when teachers lie to students..... not setting a very good example
There is no way this should be allowed
I fully agree and support the statements provided by William.
I am extremely disappointed and frustrated with this situation. I was given a grade in December which I was told would be officially published on my transcript (via bear tracks grades) and therefore began my job search with COOP. I calculated my expected GPA, where I relied on the grade that I was given, and applied to jobs using that GPA. I now have a lower GPA as of yesterday, and therefore I am now made out to be a liar. I am very upset with this. I find it extremely unfair that I did not have my grades back BEFORE the winter 2020 semester, as this would never have happened. This just be fixed.
The letter grades should remain how they were previously and this mistake should only be fixed the next time this class is offered.
I agree with William and appreciate him taking action on this and giving us a way to get involved.
Thank you for taking the time to deal with this matter! Couldn't make it today.
Supporting William. It’s unfair suddenly change to a unreasonable grade scale. Hope change it back to the original one!
Feel the exact same way! Random and unreasonable...
Not able to make it today because of a class time conflict but I stand by this petition. I was thoroughly pissed off when seeing her grade change and am glad William took the time to fight this.
Being given a grade, and then having that grade suddenly decreased seems very unfair. Supporting William Su and appreciating him taking steps to help all of us affecting by this change.
This is extremely unfair and effects my outlook on careers. It is a shame I achieved what I thought would be one grade, to only get moved down for no apparent reason.
These circumstances are completely unreasonable and I can not accept them. I want this to change.
Supporting William in an unfair and sudden change to the grading distribution in BUEC 342.
Supporting William Su and my fellow students in Buec 342 to have letter grades shifted back to originally reported.