BIS has officially acted and taken down the illegal A3L operation. This is a massive victory for the integrity of our modding community. Keep keeping an eye on their sub-groups to ensure they do not pop back up elsewhere.
A3L team as a whole: 1. modified Tonics no-derivs code and claimed it as their own, 2. modified Milkmans and RobertHammers no-derivs mods and charge people to use them. Both of these guys have asked them to remove their content, but they have not complied with this wish 3. published a price-list for content, and when this was evidenced they hid it basically, and told BIS that they had taken it down, but continued to collect money from new users wanting access. We estimate they have made between $10,000 and $50,000 from our work, exploiting BIS' commercial property 4. abused people in the forums asking questions about what they were up to 5. presented themselves to the world as professional, with a lawyer no-less, only to be outed by their own disillusioned team members as youngsters, and confessing they made the bit up about the lawyer (essentially to try to scare us off) 6. allegedly stole licensed copyrighted materials from Microsoft, Forza, Shift 2, and CL3
and today they a) continue to secretly charge for access b) publish these allegedly illegal models in the arma 3 engine c) promote their stolen and modified arma community assets d) sow a big seam of discord amongst the collaborative, experienced modding community that keeps BIS games popular
One member of their team has been banned from the BIS Forum and BIS decided that was enough.
BIS will not take any further action against them unless we make our feelings known.
BIS we ask you to take substantial steps to deal with this team of abusive pirates who are making a mockery of the licensing system we use to release mods in your game engine
We just hit 1,000 signatures. Post the petition link on Facebook and tag the official BIS accounts so they cannot ignore this. Send an email to their community managers today demanding they address these copyright violations.
Reached 1,000 supporters
November 13, 2014
November 10, 2014
We just hit 100 signatures. Post the link to this petition on your Facebook page right now so we can keep this pressure building. Email your representative to demand they address these copyright violations immediately.
Reached 100 supporters
November 9, 2014
1,035 Comments
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Mahizzta
11 years ago
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Abusing a game developer's EULA is one thing. It doesn't hurt the big company as much. But abusing mod developers which essentially hurts the whole community because they will not keep doing mods, is completely bullshit
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Andrius
11 years ago
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i don't care when people use commercial stuff cos its doesn't really hurt those enormous companies, but when ideas and time spend is taken and used to cash in w/o any credit - specially for the comunity made stuff - they should be sued for theft and manipulation...
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Mark H-P
11 years ago
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This mod is a representation of piracy. This should not be tolerated. How would you feel if someone stole something so dear to you that took you days and weeks to make... and not only that, make money from it.... i hope this mod gets taken down for good.
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Mike Holland
11 years ago
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not to mention that neither tonic or milkman made profit from the mods, code changed or unchanged, the fact of the matter is that it was created for free use but also clearly stated not to be used for profit wich A3L breached
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Matthew Fraser
11 years ago
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Thought about donating recently, decided to research, that brought me here. Glad I didn't. P.S I'd like to see the money they managed to accumulate over the time given back to all of the people and then have to pay compensation to the mod makers they scammed off of.
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Brian K.
11 years ago
Featured
A3L are breaking the spirit of community development and more importantly copyright violation. BIS should act on this as a responsible entity interested in not only protecting it's IP but the work of it's mod community.
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Jacob
10 years ago
Hope this works
C
Cole Webb
10 years ago
I'm tired of these pricks making big profits off of stolen goods. What a bunch of criminals. I hope they get put in prison.
BIS has officially acted and taken down the illegal A3L operation. This is a massive victory for the integrity of our modding community. Keep keeping an eye on their sub-groups to ensure they do not pop back up elsewhere.
A3L team as a whole: 1. modified Tonics no-derivs code and claimed it as their own, 2. modified Milkmans and RobertHammers no-derivs mods and charge people to use them. Both of these guys have asked them to remove their content, but they have not complied with this wish 3. published a price-list for content, and when this was evidenced they hid it basically, and told BIS that they had taken it down, but continued to collect money from new users wanting access. We estimate they have made between $10,000 and $50,000 from our work, exploiting BIS' commercial property 4. abused people in the forums asking questions about what they were up to 5. presented themselves to the world as professional, with a lawyer no-less, only to be outed by their own disillusioned team members as youngsters, and confessing they made the bit up about the lawyer (essentially to try to scare us off) 6. allegedly stole licensed copyrighted materials from Microsoft, Forza, Shift 2, and CL3
and today they a) continue to secretly charge for access b) publish these allegedly illegal models in the arma 3 engine c) promote their stolen and modified arma community assets d) sow a big seam of discord amongst the collaborative, experienced modding community that keeps BIS games popular
One member of their team has been banned from the BIS Forum and BIS decided that was enough.
BIS will not take any further action against them unless we make our feelings known.
BIS we ask you to take substantial steps to deal with this team of abusive pirates who are making a mockery of the licensing system we use to release mods in your game engine
We just hit 1,000 signatures. Post the petition link on Facebook and tag the official BIS accounts so they cannot ignore this. Send an email to their community managers today demanding they address these copyright violations.
Reached 1,000 supporters
November 13, 2014
November 10, 2014
We just hit 100 signatures. Post the link to this petition on your Facebook page right now so we can keep this pressure building. Email your representative to demand they address these copyright violations immediately.
Reached 100 supporters
November 9, 2014
1,035 Comments
M
Mahizzta
11 years ago
Featured
Abusing a game developer's EULA is one thing. It doesn't hurt the big company as much. But abusing mod developers which essentially hurts the whole community because they will not keep doing mods, is completely bullshit
A
Andrius
11 years ago
Featured
i don't care when people use commercial stuff cos its doesn't really hurt those enormous companies, but when ideas and time spend is taken and used to cash in w/o any credit - specially for the comunity made stuff - they should be sued for theft and manipulation...
M
Mark H-P
11 years ago
Featured
This mod is a representation of piracy. This should not be tolerated. How would you feel if someone stole something so dear to you that took you days and weeks to make... and not only that, make money from it.... i hope this mod gets taken down for good.
M
Mike Holland
11 years ago
Featured
not to mention that neither tonic or milkman made profit from the mods, code changed or unchanged, the fact of the matter is that it was created for free use but also clearly stated not to be used for profit wich A3L breached
M
Matthew Fraser
11 years ago
Featured
Thought about donating recently, decided to research, that brought me here. Glad I didn't. P.S I'd like to see the money they managed to accumulate over the time given back to all of the people and then have to pay compensation to the mod makers they scammed off of.
B
Brian K.
11 years ago
Featured
A3L are breaking the spirit of community development and more importantly copyright violation. BIS should act on this as a responsible entity interested in not only protecting it's IP but the work of it's mod community.
J
Jacob
10 years ago
Hope this works
C
Cole Webb
10 years ago
I'm tired of these pricks making big profits off of stolen goods. What a bunch of criminals. I hope they get put in prison.
Abusing a game developer's EULA is one thing. It doesn't hurt the big company as much. But abusing mod developers which essentially hurts the whole community because they will not keep doing mods, is completely bullshit