I just received the news that the department is moving forward with the statutory register for architectural technologists. I am truly stunned and I know this only happened because all of you refused to let this issue fade away. Please keep an eye on the official rollout to ensure the …
August 21, 2014
Final supporters
Minister Hogan, on the 26th Feb 2008 in the Dail, you asked the then Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government his proposals to give formal statutory or legal recognition to the qualifications of Architectural Technologists and to bring to his attention the important role that these professions play in the planning, development and construction of buildings.
In signing the BC(A)A 2014 into legislation you have effectively ostracised Irish Architectural Technologists. You have nullified their academic qualifications and belittled the experience of those who you described as being professional and important. Architectural Technologists want to remain Architectural Technologists and not be forced to become Architects, Engineers or Building Surveyors to be legitimately recognised for the valuable contribution they make to the Irish design and construction industry and so we call on you to;
“Instruct the Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government, the civil servants whose responsibility this will be, to setup a register along the lines of the CIF register of builders so that when the legislation is opened to admit the builders on a statutory register it will also admit the architectural technologists on a statutory register?”
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Reached 500 supporters
May 27, 2014
Reached 100 supporters
May 26, 2014
May 25, 2014
I am honestly overwhelmed by how many of you have stepped up to support this recognition for our profession. If we can reach five hundred names while the momentum is here it might finally force a real conversation with the Department.
16 Comments
Hi James, Yes, CIAT have submitted a proposal to the Dept. of Environment for the establishment of a CIAT operated register, which will be open to all competent professionals, not just CIAT members. A CIAT operated register will allow for AT's to provide Design and Assigned Certifier services.
Gillian, the RIAI had no part to play in the establishment of this petition. This is purely about the principle of the need for Statutory recognition of the skills of AT's, and to bring sharper context to the debate in the Dail today. Just for today, let's leave the CIAT / RIAI divide aside and let this be just about architectural technology. The detail can be debated and decided upon once the principle has been established, and I would expect that everybody would fight their corner if and when that comes about. For today, lets just send a clear message to the Minister who has ignored ALL of us.
Pleaase support CIAT who have have made a submission to the minister and his department, seeking the establishment of a register which will allow Architectural Technologists to provide full design and assigned certification and will sit alongside the existing registers for Architects, Building Surveyors and Chartered Engineers, not below those registers.
Please remove my signature from the petition. It appears that this petition has been generated by the RIAI to get control of the Profession of Architectural Technologists which will sound the death knell of the profession. The RIAI have spent the past 30 years trying to limit the scope of work carried out by Architectural Technologists and they are not going to change their attitude now. This petition appears to be a direct response to CIAT's endeavors to have a register of Chartered Architectural Technologists set up to protect the future of the profession of architectural Technologists.
I fully agree with Gillian's comment, especially in light of the recent RIAI News Alert on the creation of an RIAI register. It is carefully worded to avoid any mention of AT's performing in a design or assigned certifier role while making it seem like we as AT's can provide a full service. Under an RIAI register Architectural Technologist's will be restricted to provided ancillary certification services ONLY. CIAT have made a submission to the minister and his department, seeking the establishment of a register which will allow Architectural Technologists to provide full design and assigned certification and will sit alongside the existing registers for Architects, Building Surveyors and Chartered Engineers, not below those registers.
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"Hi all, The Topical Issue debate has been moved forward an hour to 4.06pm Chris Secretarial Assistant to Mick Wallace T.D"
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I just received the news that the department is moving forward with the statutory register for architectural technologists. I am truly stunned and I know this only happened because all of you refused to let this issue fade away. Please keep an eye on the official rollout to ensure the …
August 21, 2014
Final supporters
Minister Hogan, on the 26th Feb 2008 in the Dail, you asked the then Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government his proposals to give formal statutory or legal recognition to the qualifications of Architectural Technologists and to bring to his attention the important role that these professions play in the planning, development and construction of buildings.
In signing the BC(A)A 2014 into legislation you have effectively ostracised Irish Architectural Technologists. You have nullified their academic qualifications and belittled the experience of those who you described as being professional and important. Architectural Technologists want to remain Architectural Technologists and not be forced to become Architects, Engineers or Building Surveyors to be legitimately recognised for the valuable contribution they make to the Irish design and construction industry and so we call on you to;
“Instruct the Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government, the civil servants whose responsibility this will be, to setup a register along the lines of the CIF register of builders so that when the legislation is opened to admit the builders on a statutory register it will also admit the architectural technologists on a statutory register?”
Updates
Reached 500 supporters
May 27, 2014
Reached 100 supporters
May 26, 2014
May 25, 2014
I am honestly overwhelmed by how many of you have stepped up to support this recognition for our profession. If we can reach five hundred names while the momentum is here it might finally force a real conversation with the Department.
16 Comments
Any statutory register of Architectural Technologists must be independent of the RIAI whose main interest is to protect it's architect it's architect members. For the RIAI to run a statutory register of architectural technologists would be create a conflict of interest. The Charter Institute of Architectural Technologists, CIAT, an internationally recognized institute of architectural technologists for architectural technologists is in a an ideal position to set up and run such a register.
Hi James, Yes, CIAT have submitted a proposal to the Dept. of Environment for the establishment of a CIAT operated register, which will be open to all competent professionals, not just CIAT members. A CIAT operated register will allow for AT's to provide Design and Assigned Certifier services.
Gillian, the RIAI had no part to play in the establishment of this petition. This is purely about the principle of the need for Statutory recognition of the skills of AT's, and to bring sharper context to the debate in the Dail today. Just for today, let's leave the CIAT / RIAI divide aside and let this be just about architectural technology. The detail can be debated and decided upon once the principle has been established, and I would expect that everybody would fight their corner if and when that comes about. For today, lets just send a clear message to the Minister who has ignored ALL of us.
Pleaase support CIAT who have have made a submission to the minister and his department, seeking the establishment of a register which will allow Architectural Technologists to provide full design and assigned certification and will sit alongside the existing registers for Architects, Building Surveyors and Chartered Engineers, not below those registers.
Please remove my signature from the petition. It appears that this petition has been generated by the RIAI to get control of the Profession of Architectural Technologists which will sound the death knell of the profession. The RIAI have spent the past 30 years trying to limit the scope of work carried out by Architectural Technologists and they are not going to change their attitude now. This petition appears to be a direct response to CIAT's endeavors to have a register of Chartered Architectural Technologists set up to protect the future of the profession of architectural Technologists.
I fully agree with Gillian's comment, especially in light of the recent RIAI News Alert on the creation of an RIAI register. It is carefully worded to avoid any mention of AT's performing in a design or assigned certifier role while making it seem like we as AT's can provide a full service. Under an RIAI register Architectural Technologist's will be restricted to provided ancillary certification services ONLY. CIAT have made a submission to the minister and his department, seeking the establishment of a register which will allow Architectural Technologists to provide full design and assigned certification and will sit alongside the existing registers for Architects, Building Surveyors and Chartered Engineers, not below those registers.
please make this happen
"Hi all, The Topical Issue debate has been moved forward an hour to 4.06pm Chris Secretarial Assistant to Mick Wallace T.D"
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Any statutory register of Architectural Technologists must be independent of the RIAI whose main interest is to protect it's architect it's architect members. For the RIAI to run a statutory register of architectural technologists would be create a conflict of interest. The Charter Institute of Architectural Technologists, CIAT, an internationally recognized institute of architectural technologists for architectural technologists is in a an ideal position to set up and run such a register.