Fight back to stop Kingston councils money making scam on issuing penalty charges
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Christine May
9 years ago
I was caught and paid the fine. No prior warnings before entering the road. They are not making it clear. There should be a no entry sign for cars.
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Alison Derrick
9 years ago
if the authorities wish to reduce car use and encourage the public to use buses then they must increase the bus services first (not reduce them) before creating chaos by restricting the roads further.
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Anonymous
9 years ago
Give. People their money back!
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Yvette Van Lierde
9 years ago
Got fined turning into Surbiton zcrescent coming from zkingston, even though I turned round as soon as I realised.
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Debs Gattey
9 years ago
If the signs are so clear why is everyone getting caught. Most of us are law abiding citizens.
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paul sullivan
9 years ago
this is a disgrace I live in Epsom I knew nothing about this I was taking my disabled brother to Kingston clothes shopping needless to say I will not be returning to kingston
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Lindy Elson
9 years ago
I was fined and it is obviously a scam to get money. I would not have driven through if I had realised that it was a no entry. It is made to appear just a narrowing of the road to allow one vehicle to pass at a time. Please refund the money.
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Lee Mcallan
9 years ago
Just received my PCN letter from Kingston upon Thames stating I'm to pay £130 to them for entering a road that looks like any other,if this is a road for buses , cabs and bikes only ,then why don't they Show some actual road markings on the concrete that you are driving on , not some tiny little signs 7-8ft in the air that you can't actually read in time , unless you stop , then run the risk of being hit from someone behind you about to fall into the same trap . This as in most cases is a quick and easy money earner we have to deal with in Kingston for the last few years , I don't think they care at all about easing congestion , having been down this road many times over the years , it never really seemed a major problem , has it suddenly turned into Piccadilly Circus ! A major stitch up , so sick of this blatant rifoff , makes you wonder who the real criminals are sometimes .
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Christopher Johns
9 years ago
The signage from Hionston along Surbiton Road is just inadequate, relying on no even moderately tall vehicles blocking sight of the two little signs, with no sign in the centre of the road, meaning that many vehicles will not be aware of the No Right Turn until after they have already committed to it. If it is a trial, then - especially given the inadequate signage, first offenders should be just given a warning.
More priority needs to be given to cars, not empty cycle lanes.
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warren lewis
9 years ago
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My wife got caught last week not realising where she got the fine, I took the car out yesterday and was stopped by a local resident showing me the new road layout. I now too will be receiving a fine. The signage is inadequate and very misleading. I really do not see the point.
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Anna Coleman
9 years ago
The signage is not sufficiently clear.
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Weelee Lim
9 years ago
I 2nd-ed
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John Leonard
9 years ago
Kingston Council Traffic Dept. are plagiarists. CAS-204818-D1J7KO
I entered Surbiton Crescent from Kingston Road 24th Nov; received PCN 03/12 & submitted challenge. Challenge rejection received 16/12, immediately emailed following protest, as their Library photos showed their signage inadequate:- "1. One should always remember that cyclists are ‘unlicensed’ road users (similar to pedestrians).
2. I do not live in the area; I heard no clue that this scheme was envisaged: there was no warning signage/posters of ‘this change’ at traffic lights, pedestrian crossings etc. (where traffic might be stationary to read a longer notice) so I suspect this is a ‘money-making’ venture to fund the Council.
3. The alignment of the “No Entry” signs is ‘facing squarely’ at Southsea Road (a one-way road heading away from the Surbiton Crescent/Surbiton Road intersection), so they serve “No Purpose” (other than to generate revenue???): pointing in a direction where no one is looking. The signs are set too high to trigger even one’s peripheral vision. Common sense should dictate that the southernmost sign should be rotated 30 degrees, anticlockwise, and, the northernmost sign 30 degrees clockwise, so that traffic on the Surbiton Road (the only feeder road at this junction), can ‘even’ sight the signs, prior to the junction. The following visit to Ham House, the signs were lower, and had been pivoted ~ so I sent a 2nd email pointing-out they were guilty of plagiarism.
4. I will, of course, shift on to the Maple Road/Surbiton Road junction, on the infrequent occasions that we take our grandchildren to Ham House, and queue with all the other vehicles, outside Surbiton High School: Yes, the pollution levels will increase in that locale, with young brains being poisoned (but who is culpable for organising that factor?, and who, knowingly, allowed this to happen?).
5. Now that I have read-up on the subject, it is evident that the cycling pressure groups have combined to influence
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Jason Pratt
9 years ago
This clearly serves no other purpose other than an underhand method for generating money for the council
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Paul Smith
9 years ago
absolute scam, I am apealing my penalty,
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Hazel Rhoades
9 years ago
Thank you
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Stephen Barker
9 years ago
Shame on the council for this cynical ply
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Matthew Evans
9 years ago
I can not believe the council put this in, I have been driving through here for 10 years to pick up a disabled lady. When it was first put in I thought it was a width restriction to slow traffic outside the school fair enough, then next thing I get a fine ..no warning about change from council! Also it is only about 50 foot long what a total joke.
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Anonymous
9 years ago
Poor signage and warning for local drivers using this route for years.
I was caught and paid the fine. No prior warnings before entering the road. They are not making it clear. There should be a no entry sign for cars.
if the authorities wish to reduce car use and encourage the public to use buses then they must increase the bus services first (not reduce them) before creating chaos by restricting the roads further.
Give. People their money back!
Got fined turning into Surbiton zcrescent coming from zkingston, even though I turned round as soon as I realised.
If the signs are so clear why is everyone getting caught. Most of us are law abiding citizens.
this is a disgrace I live in Epsom I knew nothing about this I was taking my disabled brother to Kingston clothes shopping needless to say I will not be returning to kingston
I was fined and it is obviously a scam to get money. I would not have driven through if I had realised that it was a no entry. It is made to appear just a narrowing of the road to allow one vehicle to pass at a time. Please refund the money.
Just received my PCN letter from Kingston upon Thames stating I'm to pay £130 to them for entering a road that looks like any other,if this is a road for buses , cabs and bikes only ,then why don't they Show some actual road markings on the concrete that you are driving on , not some tiny little signs 7-8ft in the air that you can't actually read in time , unless you stop , then run the risk of being hit from someone behind you about to fall into the same trap . This as in most cases is a quick and easy money earner we have to deal with in Kingston for the last few years , I don't think they care at all about easing congestion , having been down this road many times over the years , it never really seemed a major problem , has it suddenly turned into Piccadilly Circus ! A major stitch up , so sick of this blatant rifoff , makes you wonder who the real criminals are sometimes .
The signage from Hionston along Surbiton Road is just inadequate, relying on no even moderately tall vehicles blocking sight of the two little signs, with no sign in the centre of the road, meaning that many vehicles will not be aware of the No Right Turn until after they have already committed to it. If it is a trial, then - especially given the inadequate signage, first offenders should be just given a warning. More priority needs to be given to cars, not empty cycle lanes.
My wife got caught last week not realising where she got the fine, I took the car out yesterday and was stopped by a local resident showing me the new road layout. I now too will be receiving a fine. The signage is inadequate and very misleading. I really do not see the point.
The signage is not sufficiently clear.
I 2nd-ed
Kingston Council Traffic Dept. are plagiarists. CAS-204818-D1J7KO I entered Surbiton Crescent from Kingston Road 24th Nov; received PCN 03/12 & submitted challenge. Challenge rejection received 16/12, immediately emailed following protest, as their Library photos showed their signage inadequate:- "1. One should always remember that cyclists are ‘unlicensed’ road users (similar to pedestrians). 2. I do not live in the area; I heard no clue that this scheme was envisaged: there was no warning signage/posters of ‘this change’ at traffic lights, pedestrian crossings etc. (where traffic might be stationary to read a longer notice) so I suspect this is a ‘money-making’ venture to fund the Council. 3. The alignment of the “No Entry” signs is ‘facing squarely’ at Southsea Road (a one-way road heading away from the Surbiton Crescent/Surbiton Road intersection), so they serve “No Purpose” (other than to generate revenue???): pointing in a direction where no one is looking. The signs are set too high to trigger even one’s peripheral vision. Common sense should dictate that the southernmost sign should be rotated 30 degrees, anticlockwise, and, the northernmost sign 30 degrees clockwise, so that traffic on the Surbiton Road (the only feeder road at this junction), can ‘even’ sight the signs, prior to the junction. The following visit to Ham House, the signs were lower, and had been pivoted ~ so I sent a 2nd email pointing-out they were guilty of plagiarism. 4. I will, of course, shift on to the Maple Road/Surbiton Road junction, on the infrequent occasions that we take our grandchildren to Ham House, and queue with all the other vehicles, outside Surbiton High School: Yes, the pollution levels will increase in that locale, with young brains being poisoned (but who is culpable for organising that factor?, and who, knowingly, allowed this to happen?). 5. Now that I have read-up on the subject, it is evident that the cycling pressure groups have combined to influence
This clearly serves no other purpose other than an underhand method for generating money for the council
absolute scam, I am apealing my penalty,
Thank you
Shame on the council for this cynical ply
I can not believe the council put this in, I have been driving through here for 10 years to pick up a disabled lady. When it was first put in I thought it was a width restriction to slow traffic outside the school fair enough, then next thing I get a fine ..no warning about change from council! Also it is only about 50 foot long what a total joke.
Poor signage and warning for local drivers using this route for years.
Wow.