Alan Pean- Collective Statement from Healthcare Professionals
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Erin Mannion LCSW-C
10 years ago
This is outrageous. Drop the charges and the hospital should be held accountable.
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Laura holland
10 years ago
Training in deescalation
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Anonymous
10 years ago
Revolted by the 'care' offered to this patient. I have never heard of such an atrocity.
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Ummais Khan
10 years ago
The most horrific unimaginable thing happened to this patient who went to a hospital seeking HELP. His treatment there was beyond unacceptable. As an MD I have encountered agitated, confused, and combative patients countless times. Never would I imagine that pulling out a gun and shooting them would be the answer. It is completely unjustifiable. I am devastated by this story
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Constancia Romilly
10 years ago
I worked for years in hospital ER's. All personnel receive training in the management of "difficult" patients. All hospitals now promote themselves as delivering "patient centered care." Alan's treatment is inexcusable.
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Anonymous
10 years ago
to Alan Pean,
I am so sorry for the violence rendered against you as you sought care. It was inexcusable and goes against common decency and common sense. All my best to you and family on your journey to healing and justice.
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Ruth Little
10 years ago
While I certainly support the ability of law enforcement to protect themselves, this seems to fall under the category of lack of safety in the workplace for healthcare workers & patients. (I am an LPN)
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Barry D Carpenter
10 years ago
It's time for people to hold the police and institutions that employee the police accountable for their actions
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Carey Cezar
10 years ago
Weapons of any kind should NEVER be allowed in the hospital.
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Nicole assouline
10 years ago
It appears the staff was more focused on documentation than actually intervening. Who calls security to help close a gown? What's wrong with this staff? Nursing is holistic, his abrasions are not his focus for going to the ER it's poor judgement on both the physician and nursing staff. And how do you leave cops in the room with a patient with the door closed, where is the supervision!
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owen LInder MD FACP
10 years ago
typical cya cops
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Joshua Gravel MSc NREMTB
10 years ago
What happened to Mr. Pean is deeply troubling and underscores the stark reality of mental health care delivery and psychological services available within in the US healthcare system. Having served as a Florida ER Technician for more than 10 years between three distinctly different Emergency Departments, I encountered countless patients in the midst of a mental health crisis. Unfortunately, the level and appropriateness of care delivered varied throughout my experience and it wasn't uncommon for these situations to escalate simply because clinicians, nurses, and security personnel perceived the patient to be irrational and non-compliant with their expected demands. The need to restrain someone for safety concerns was also not uncommon, but in many cases it was absolutely necessary and appropriate. In those situations, proper training in crisis prevention and intervention (CPI) and keeping the patient's well-being in mind was absolutely paramount. Though something I noticed is that many hospital security personnel lacked CPI training, and at times they would even become the aggressor. Obviously I wasn't present at the time of Mr. Pean's incident, so it's difficult to assess why these rational, able bodied men felt the need to use deadly force, but the fact that SJMC even condones their security personnel to carry guns is very concerning. Maybe it's ignorance? Maybe it's a cultural issue, or stigmatization of mental illness? Perhaps it's misguided priorities? Clearly, the core problem is multifactorial and systemic. Something needs to change.
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John Phipps
10 years ago
This is a tragic and senseless story. Something needs to be done to stop the bullies (cops) from shooting innocent people. There are better ways to keep order than killing people.
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Melissa Chaney
10 years ago
This is so sad and touching in my heart. How do security shoot an ill patient whose seeking medical help? That officer who did the shooting needs to be fired and held fully accountable for such unjustly & dirty acts and the hospital should be fully accountable for their actions as well. I feel so sorry for all the Pean family has gone through just to get medical help. This is really pathetic, they're suppose to be profession and represent nothing lesser. Smh
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Martha Clark
10 years ago
Not a healthcare professional, but the sibling of one who was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, and failed by every medical and legal institution with which she came into contact. Too long a story... we need to find the humanity and resources to meet the needs of mentally ill citizens effectively. They are US, not a "them."
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mayra cisneros
10 years ago
We need justice
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Timothy Quinn
10 years ago
These were not unarmed security officers like hospitals used to have. These were off duty police working a second job. With all the people (of all races) being shot and abused by American police, the last place we need them is in a hospital! These are not the peace officers we knew ~20 years ago. They are trained differently, hire a different mentality and think of themselves as warriors or paramilitary. It's time to overhaul American police altogether and get them out of hospitals now!
I'm happy this young man walked away with his life. Best wishes to him and his family.
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Sunil Reddy
10 years ago
Bullets are not the answer.
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Mike Decembre
10 years ago
Justice
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Fructuoso Irigoyen-Rascon MD DLFAPA
10 years ago
We all should think how to change this violent society.
This is outrageous. Drop the charges and the hospital should be held accountable.
Training in deescalation
Revolted by the 'care' offered to this patient. I have never heard of such an atrocity.
The most horrific unimaginable thing happened to this patient who went to a hospital seeking HELP. His treatment there was beyond unacceptable. As an MD I have encountered agitated, confused, and combative patients countless times. Never would I imagine that pulling out a gun and shooting them would be the answer. It is completely unjustifiable. I am devastated by this story
I worked for years in hospital ER's. All personnel receive training in the management of "difficult" patients. All hospitals now promote themselves as delivering "patient centered care." Alan's treatment is inexcusable.
to Alan Pean, I am so sorry for the violence rendered against you as you sought care. It was inexcusable and goes against common decency and common sense. All my best to you and family on your journey to healing and justice.
While I certainly support the ability of law enforcement to protect themselves, this seems to fall under the category of lack of safety in the workplace for healthcare workers & patients. (I am an LPN)
It's time for people to hold the police and institutions that employee the police accountable for their actions
Weapons of any kind should NEVER be allowed in the hospital.
It appears the staff was more focused on documentation than actually intervening. Who calls security to help close a gown? What's wrong with this staff? Nursing is holistic, his abrasions are not his focus for going to the ER it's poor judgement on both the physician and nursing staff. And how do you leave cops in the room with a patient with the door closed, where is the supervision!
typical cya cops
What happened to Mr. Pean is deeply troubling and underscores the stark reality of mental health care delivery and psychological services available within in the US healthcare system. Having served as a Florida ER Technician for more than 10 years between three distinctly different Emergency Departments, I encountered countless patients in the midst of a mental health crisis. Unfortunately, the level and appropriateness of care delivered varied throughout my experience and it wasn't uncommon for these situations to escalate simply because clinicians, nurses, and security personnel perceived the patient to be irrational and non-compliant with their expected demands. The need to restrain someone for safety concerns was also not uncommon, but in many cases it was absolutely necessary and appropriate. In those situations, proper training in crisis prevention and intervention (CPI) and keeping the patient's well-being in mind was absolutely paramount. Though something I noticed is that many hospital security personnel lacked CPI training, and at times they would even become the aggressor. Obviously I wasn't present at the time of Mr. Pean's incident, so it's difficult to assess why these rational, able bodied men felt the need to use deadly force, but the fact that SJMC even condones their security personnel to carry guns is very concerning. Maybe it's ignorance? Maybe it's a cultural issue, or stigmatization of mental illness? Perhaps it's misguided priorities? Clearly, the core problem is multifactorial and systemic. Something needs to change.
This is a tragic and senseless story. Something needs to be done to stop the bullies (cops) from shooting innocent people. There are better ways to keep order than killing people.
This is so sad and touching in my heart. How do security shoot an ill patient whose seeking medical help? That officer who did the shooting needs to be fired and held fully accountable for such unjustly & dirty acts and the hospital should be fully accountable for their actions as well. I feel so sorry for all the Pean family has gone through just to get medical help. This is really pathetic, they're suppose to be profession and represent nothing lesser. Smh
Not a healthcare professional, but the sibling of one who was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, and failed by every medical and legal institution with which she came into contact. Too long a story... we need to find the humanity and resources to meet the needs of mentally ill citizens effectively. They are US, not a "them."
We need justice
These were not unarmed security officers like hospitals used to have. These were off duty police working a second job. With all the people (of all races) being shot and abused by American police, the last place we need them is in a hospital! These are not the peace officers we knew ~20 years ago. They are trained differently, hire a different mentality and think of themselves as warriors or paramilitary. It's time to overhaul American police altogether and get them out of hospitals now! I'm happy this young man walked away with his life. Best wishes to him and his family.
Bullets are not the answer.
Justice
We all should think how to change this violent society.