The review is officially happening. Your pressure forced a necessary change in the guidelines. Keep watching to ensure they follow through.
December 6, 2011
Reform the NICE guidelines and end the bias towards Cognitive Behaviour Therapy (CBT) in the IAPT programme
Final supporters
We, the undersigned providers and/or users of counselling and psychotherapy, call upon the Department of Health to instigate an urgent independent investigation into the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE) guidelines for the use of psychological therapies in the NHS. These guidelines currently display unwarranted and well documented bias in favour of cognitive behaviour therapy (CBT). Their formulation involved inadequate representation of and consultation with the counselling and psychotherapy field, and relied upon a very narrow range of research methodologies which fail to do justice to clients’ subjective experience and the complexity of human interaction.
We ask that urgent independent reviews be undertaken of the vast body of existing research findings on the efficacy of counselling and psychotherapy, studies which typically do not regard them as medical-style interventions for diagnosed illnesses or 'disorders', nor rest exclusively on the objectification of emotional and psychological distress.
We further call for an end to NICE’s discriminatory and unscientific bias towards CBT and the influence this is having over the Improving Access to Psychological Therapies (IAPT) scheme, the combined impact of which is drastically reducing access to, and threatening the very existence of, a diverse range of clinically effective therapeutic approaches which have thrived for many decades; depriving the public – against Government policy – of the choice, effectiveness and flexibility of services that clients are known to value.
Please tell us your main organisational affiliations (e.g. BACP, UKCP, IPN)- if any - when you sign. Thank you.
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Reached 5,000 supporters
November 7, 2011
October 24, 2011
One thousand signatures reached. This level of support shows the system needs change.
Reached 1,000 supporters
October 24, 2011
Reached 100 supporters
October 21, 2011
30 Comments
Really good therapists are being denied the chance to work effectively because of this ridiculous one size fits all approach. People with complex needs are expected to 'recover' in six weeks and therapists are put under pressure to achieve 50% recovery rate outcomes which is unrealistic at best and at worst leads to unethical manipulation of clients to ensure that their test scores improve. The compassion is being sucked out of the service and excellent practitioners are being wasted.
I am alive today because of Person Centred (ie Rogerian/Humanistic) therapy. It is harder to quantify the impacts than CBT but provides a solid life-long grounding for recovery and growth - by addressing the human at the heart of mental health problems, rather than focussing on specific behavioural manifestations of those problems. Mental health is too important to not listen to a wide breadth of academic input, even if the conclusions are more expensive or time-consuming.
I am a trainee counsellor. I am also a survivor of complex trauma who was unable to access the therapy I needed on the NHS because I could only access CBT. The NHS is failing the many people in the UK who need talk therapy and it is high time the bias towards CBT ended.
The tick box questionnaires are a blunt tool for assessing very real emotional problems. It is a treatment which is entirely inappropriate for many people and it's a waste of money to foist it onto everyone regardless of their individual needs. In addition the counsellors often appear inexperienced and non empathetic.
I fully support this petition, as a qualified Arts Therapist who is unable to find employment within the NHS, I feel that the focus on CBT has been misguided from its inception, and has played a part in the decline of my Profession within the NHS. It is also putting Patient's at a great disadvantage because one size fits all is not a productive way to provide Therapy Services.
Accredited body - NRHP (National Register of Hypnotherapists and Psychotherapists who are an organisational member of UKCP
The psychosocial ideology is unscientific misanthropic garbage. Enough of this nightmarish fairyland nonsense Modest proposal. You are killing people with this crap. Shame on all of those who push this on the sick and disabled.
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The review is officially happening. Your pressure forced a necessary change in the guidelines. Keep watching to ensure they follow through.
December 6, 2011
Reform the NICE guidelines and end the bias towards Cognitive Behaviour Therapy (CBT) in the IAPT programme
Final supporters
We, the undersigned providers and/or users of counselling and psychotherapy, call upon the Department of Health to instigate an urgent independent investigation into the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE) guidelines for the use of psychological therapies in the NHS. These guidelines currently display unwarranted and well documented bias in favour of cognitive behaviour therapy (CBT). Their formulation involved inadequate representation of and consultation with the counselling and psychotherapy field, and relied upon a very narrow range of research methodologies which fail to do justice to clients’ subjective experience and the complexity of human interaction.
We ask that urgent independent reviews be undertaken of the vast body of existing research findings on the efficacy of counselling and psychotherapy, studies which typically do not regard them as medical-style interventions for diagnosed illnesses or 'disorders', nor rest exclusively on the objectification of emotional and psychological distress.
We further call for an end to NICE’s discriminatory and unscientific bias towards CBT and the influence this is having over the Improving Access to Psychological Therapies (IAPT) scheme, the combined impact of which is drastically reducing access to, and threatening the very existence of, a diverse range of clinically effective therapeutic approaches which have thrived for many decades; depriving the public – against Government policy – of the choice, effectiveness and flexibility of services that clients are known to value.
Please tell us your main organisational affiliations (e.g. BACP, UKCP, IPN)- if any - when you sign. Thank you.
Your email address is required by the ipetitions website. It will not beused by the Alliance for Counselling & Psychotherapy for any other purpose. If you would like to join theAlliance mailing list please go to www.allianceforcandp.org
Updates
Reached 5,000 supporters
November 7, 2011
October 24, 2011
One thousand signatures reached. This level of support shows the system needs change.
Reached 1,000 supporters
October 24, 2011
Reached 100 supporters
October 21, 2011
30 Comments
Having been an employee of an IAPT service I cannot advocate working within a 'one size fits all' manner. As an integrative therapist, a highly skilled one at that, i was forced to become a private practitioner. I see clients who will not invest in nhs iapt service because they are largely unhappy about being made to feel 'faliures' because they do not want to fill in endless forms for therapists who manulaise their treatments and cannot deviate from that manual, or agenda based practices. I would call these services RAPT i that they restrict access to psychological therapirs in order to stay with a medicalised, safety net, way of working eith no psychology training in their bacground. Nursrs with one year of training does not make a psychological therapist.
Really good therapists are being denied the chance to work effectively because of this ridiculous one size fits all approach. People with complex needs are expected to 'recover' in six weeks and therapists are put under pressure to achieve 50% recovery rate outcomes which is unrealistic at best and at worst leads to unethical manipulation of clients to ensure that their test scores improve. The compassion is being sucked out of the service and excellent practitioners are being wasted.
I am alive today because of Person Centred (ie Rogerian/Humanistic) therapy. It is harder to quantify the impacts than CBT but provides a solid life-long grounding for recovery and growth - by addressing the human at the heart of mental health problems, rather than focussing on specific behavioural manifestations of those problems. Mental health is too important to not listen to a wide breadth of academic input, even if the conclusions are more expensive or time-consuming.
I am a trainee counsellor. I am also a survivor of complex trauma who was unable to access the therapy I needed on the NHS because I could only access CBT. The NHS is failing the many people in the UK who need talk therapy and it is high time the bias towards CBT ended.
The tick box questionnaires are a blunt tool for assessing very real emotional problems. It is a treatment which is entirely inappropriate for many people and it's a waste of money to foist it onto everyone regardless of their individual needs. In addition the counsellors often appear inexperienced and non empathetic.
I fully support this petition, as a qualified Arts Therapist who is unable to find employment within the NHS, I feel that the focus on CBT has been misguided from its inception, and has played a part in the decline of my Profession within the NHS. It is also putting Patient's at a great disadvantage because one size fits all is not a productive way to provide Therapy Services.
Accredited body - NRHP (National Register of Hypnotherapists and Psychotherapists who are an organisational member of UKCP
The psychosocial ideology is unscientific misanthropic garbage. Enough of this nightmarish fairyland nonsense Modest proposal. You are killing people with this crap. Shame on all of those who push this on the sick and disabled.
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Having been an employee of an IAPT service I cannot advocate working within a 'one size fits all' manner. As an integrative therapist, a highly skilled one at that, i was forced to become a private practitioner. I see clients who will not invest in nhs iapt service because they are largely unhappy about being made to feel 'faliures' because they do not want to fill in endless forms for therapists who manulaise their treatments and cannot deviate from that manual, or agenda based practices. I would call these services RAPT i that they restrict access to psychological therapirs in order to stay with a medicalised, safety net, way of working eith no psychology training in their bacground. Nursrs with one year of training does not make a psychological therapist.