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Eliminate Highway Buses From Cooperstown Residential Streets

Chip  Northrup
Chip Northrup Cooperstown, New York
78 Signatures Goal: 0

Heavy vehicles, such as highway buses, do more road damage per bus than thousands of cars. They spew diesel exhaust and block traffic on residential streets. As much as possible, heavy vehicles should be routed away from Cooperstown's residential streets.

Heavy vehicles can use state and county roads by right. The use of Village residential streets is entirelyat the discretion of the Village.

For instance, the Village can and should re-route highway bus traffic off its streets to the peripheral North and South parking lots that are served by the Village Trolley.

Tour buses should not be allowed to stop on Main Street. Tour buses can drop their passengers at the North or South lots, and their passengers can take the Village Trolley into the Village. This will eliminate most tour buses from all Village streets - Chestnut, Main, River and Lake. All other attractions - the Otesaga Hotel, Farmers Museum and Fenimore Museum - provide bus access on private property. The Hall of Fame should provide highway bus access on its east side, on private property, not depend solely on Main Street.

Trolleys or similar shuttle buses can be used to serve the Dreams Park in addition to Ommegang and the museums.

Additionally, we are petitioning that heavy vehicles - over 20,000 pounds - be prohibited from using Village single family residential streets. This can be done without impacting EMS, Otsego Transit, UPS, construction vehicles, moving vans, school buses or deliveries of goods to Main Street or Bassett.

Please join us in this effort and share with other Cooperstown residents.

Thank you,

The Northrups and the Howarths

http://caltransit.org/cta/assets/File/FTA%20Study%20on%20Axle%20Weights.pdf

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Highlights

October 28
Trustees punt - letting highway buses idle in front of HOF and exit on Fair Street and Lake Street "Trustees Approve Shift In Tour-Bus Parking To In Front Of Hall, Allowing Fair St. Access Dr. James LaCava, 30 Fair St., said tour buses are "too big, too noisy, and they smell bad," and should be diverted from all residential neighborhoods in the village to the degree possible. (Jim Kevlin/AllOTSEGO.com) Dr. James LaCava, 30 Fair St., said tour buses are “too big, too noisy, and they smell bad,” and should be diverted from all residential neighborhoods in the village to the degree possible. (Jim Kevlin/AllOTSEGO.com) Trustee Ellen Tillapaugh said negotiations are underway for Dreams Park to use village trolleys, not tour buses, to bring their youth baseball players downtown next summer. Trustee Ellen Tillapaugh said negotiations are underway for Dreams Park to use village trolleys, not tour buses, to bring their youth baseball players downtown next summer. (Dreams Park buses are only part of the problem) COOPERSTOWN – Village trustees this evening unanimously approved a local law that moves tour-bus parking from in front of the Leatherstocking Corp. to in front of the Baseball Hall of Fame. The move allows tour buses to turn left and exit the village along Fair Street, alleviating some of the traffic on River Street, a block further. A proposal raised by Mike Manno, 20 Fair St., to use the Doubleday Field parking lot to load and unload tour buses was discussed, but set aside for the time being. Trustee Cindy Falk said she has safety concerns about school children and Elderhostel tours having to walk from Doubleday to the Hall. (Meaning what ? She doesn't want tourists to walk on Main Street ?) Shifting the parking to allow use of Fair as well as River was proposed by Trustee Ellen Tillapaugh, who reported tonight she was also in negotiation with Dreams Park owner Lou Presutti Jr. to shuttle youth baseball players from Hartwick Seminary to the Hall on the village’s trolley system."
September 13
Highway motor coaches can be eliminated from residential streets in two ways = the Dreams Park can contract with Birnie Buses to run trolleys - which will be better for everyone - including the Dreams Park players. And the Hall of Fame can accommodate tour buses on private property on the east side of the HOF - not take up spaces on Main Street.
August 7
Catherine Ellsworth wrote a LTE mischaracterizing the petition as "banning highway buses entirely" from Cooperstown. What's proposed is prohibiting them from residential streets. And using the remote lots/ trolleys to serve most attractions. The Otesaga Hotel, Fenimore Museum, Farmers Museum and Hall of Fame - can all accommodate highway bus stops on private property - and all of them are on state or county highways. All of these attractions can be accessed without resorting to residential streets. This is a bit like the noon siren. When it was proposed to be eliminated, there was an outcry to keep it. (Where was Ms. Ellsworth on that ?) Once it was eliminated, everyone wondered why it took so long to get rid of it. And no one wants it back. Same with highway buses on residential streets. Once gone, won't be back. http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/reduce-remove-heavy-vehicles-from-
August 2
A vehicle's impact on a street is exponential to its weight. A 20 ton highway bus has the impact of thousands of cars, as explained in this paper: http://caltransit.org/cta/assets/File/FTA%20Study%20on%20Axle%20Weights.pdf
July 31
A committee is being formed by Ellen Tillapaugh to look into solutions. Many villages that are inundated with tourists simply prohibit tour buses from the village core - Edgartown, Williamsburg, and Corning use shuttles, as do most historic towns in Europe. In addition to serving the museums and Ommegang, trolleys or similar shuttle buses can serve the Dreams Park. A trolley holds up to 40 passengers, or 75% of the capacity of the highway buses now used by the Dreams Park.
July 18
Very heavy vehicles - over 15 tons and more than 2 axles - can be prohibited from Village residential streets without effecting deliveries of goods to Basset or Main Street, or EMS, or school buses, Otsego Transit, moving vans, construction vehicles, UPS etc. There are all lawful exceptions to such vehicles in street use ordinances. The prohibition will only apply to very heavy vehicles - over 15 tons - that use Village residential streets as a cut through from one state or county road to another and are not making local deliveries of goods to the Village. These can be prohibited.
July 16
After meeting with the Streets committee, it became clear that the most comprehensive solution will be to eliminate tour bus parking on Main Street. Tour buses can then stop at the North or South lots, and their passengers can take the Village Trolley into the Village.
July 11
The Village can reduce scheduled tour bus traffic by agreement with the operators - requiring them to use the remote parking lots - or by ordinance, prohibiting use of Village residential streets. Either way, the Village can and should reduce heavy vehicular use from residential streets.
July 10
Re highway intersection at State Hwy 28 and 11c - Returning Dreams Park buses speed through that intersection now - they have no interest in signage - or a stop light there. If the proposed route requires the returning DP buses to stop at that intersection, they will want to have signage/ a signal there. The proposed route makes them part of the solution, not part of the problem.
July 9
We are up to 15 signatures in less than a day. Please sign, leave a comment to help us improve this proposal, and pass it along.
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