The CIAM officials finally reversed the engine run limit and returned our sport to the way it should be flown. Watching the full power of these engines return to the field brings me such relief because this community refused to accept a rule that crippled our craft. Thank you for …
August 4, 2015
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By signing this petition, I would like CIAM to reverse the rule change in F1C that limits the engine run to 4 seconds.
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May 30, 2015
The technical emails I have received from fellow competitors show just how much this four second limit is gutting the soul of our competition. I am compiling these testimonies to send directly to the CIAM board so they cannot ignore the reality of what they have done to our craft.
May 30, 2015
Seeing this level of backing for our F1C community proves how much the four second limit hurts our sport. I spent so many nights wondering if anyone else felt the same frustration about this change, but your response confirms that we are actually fighting for the future of our engines.
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May 30, 2015
69 Comments
The unintended consequences of these F1C rule changes is that they will ruin the F1C event world wide. They are obsoleting many current F1C models and will require unnecessary monetary outlays. Also, this electronic timer vs RDT requirement has not been defined leaving all in the dark.
I am an active F1C flyer having competed in six World Championships from Spain '81. As a former FAI FF Subcommitee member I voted against reduction to 4 secons engine run. Despite not being a perfect solution, I would endorse 4.5 seconds for Flappers/Folders and 5 seconds for fixed wing models.
We are in the process of changing over with my son to F1C fom F1P. Made quite some investment so far but we are seriously thinking if we should do it. I am sure a lot of people will not change their planes to comply with the new RDT rules - which are nonesense anyway
Lost Hills 2015 a large group of flyers did not want any changes. See SEN 27.02.2015 Why didn't CIAM listen to the flyers?
I believe that this rule is detrimental to the sport of F1C. I myself fly C. 2015 will be the last year I participate. Hello, to something else.
Hoping that next year we can succeed in overcomimg this crazy rule !
The problem is not that F1C models fly too high, the problem is that some, sometimes return to the ground too soon (and too fast!). SAFETY is the priority and for that reason RELIABILITY is the priority. Instead of reducing the motor run I propose to drop the 20 sec rule: When the model touches the ground the flight is finished, whatever the flight time, and no second trial. This will strongly stimulate development towards more reliable and thus safer models. To further stimulate safety I also propose that, if the model touches the ground within the first 20 seconds, it has to be in DT mode, whatever technique is used to activate the DT (radio control, altitude sensor, position sensor…) This would imply that RDT remains very useful but does not have to be mandatory. The competitor just has to make sure his model is safe and even old (but safe) models without RDT can continue to be used. Penalty for early ground contact in non DT mode could for example be a zero score for the next round up to disqualification for the contest.
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The CIAM officials finally reversed the engine run limit and returned our sport to the way it should be flown. Watching the full power of these engines return to the field brings me such relief because this community refused to accept a rule that crippled our craft. Thank you for …
August 4, 2015
Final supporters
By signing this petition, I would like CIAM to reverse the rule change in F1C that limits the engine run to 4 seconds.
Updates
May 30, 2015
The technical emails I have received from fellow competitors show just how much this four second limit is gutting the soul of our competition. I am compiling these testimonies to send directly to the CIAM board so they cannot ignore the reality of what they have done to our craft.
May 30, 2015
Seeing this level of backing for our F1C community proves how much the four second limit hurts our sport. I spent so many nights wondering if anyone else felt the same frustration about this change, but your response confirms that we are actually fighting for the future of our engines.
Reached 100 supporters
May 30, 2015
69 Comments
This is a really bad ruling apparently brought about by a group with little understanding of F1C operations. It is a shame we have this type of representation. I have RDT on all of my F1C models and have lost 3 sets of wings over the years accidentally using the system soon AFTER engine shutdown, resulting in ballistic darts. RDT makes matters worse.
The unintended consequences of these F1C rule changes is that they will ruin the F1C event world wide. They are obsoleting many current F1C models and will require unnecessary monetary outlays. Also, this electronic timer vs RDT requirement has not been defined leaving all in the dark.
I am an active F1C flyer having competed in six World Championships from Spain '81. As a former FAI FF Subcommitee member I voted against reduction to 4 secons engine run. Despite not being a perfect solution, I would endorse 4.5 seconds for Flappers/Folders and 5 seconds for fixed wing models.
We are in the process of changing over with my son to F1C fom F1P. Made quite some investment so far but we are seriously thinking if we should do it. I am sure a lot of people will not change their planes to comply with the new RDT rules - which are nonesense anyway
Lost Hills 2015 a large group of flyers did not want any changes. See SEN 27.02.2015 Why didn't CIAM listen to the flyers?
I believe that this rule is detrimental to the sport of F1C. I myself fly C. 2015 will be the last year I participate. Hello, to something else.
Hoping that next year we can succeed in overcomimg this crazy rule !
The problem is not that F1C models fly too high, the problem is that some, sometimes return to the ground too soon (and too fast!). SAFETY is the priority and for that reason RELIABILITY is the priority. Instead of reducing the motor run I propose to drop the 20 sec rule: When the model touches the ground the flight is finished, whatever the flight time, and no second trial. This will strongly stimulate development towards more reliable and thus safer models. To further stimulate safety I also propose that, if the model touches the ground within the first 20 seconds, it has to be in DT mode, whatever technique is used to activate the DT (radio control, altitude sensor, position sensor…) This would imply that RDT remains very useful but does not have to be mandatory. The competitor just has to make sure his model is safe and even old (but safe) models without RDT can continue to be used. Penalty for early ground contact in non DT mode could for example be a zero score for the next round up to disqualification for the contest.
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This is a really bad ruling apparently brought about by a group with little understanding of F1C operations. It is a shame we have this type of representation. I have RDT on all of my F1C models and have lost 3 sets of wings over the years accidentally using the system soon AFTER engine shutdown, resulting in ballistic darts. RDT makes matters worse.