| # | Name | Comments |
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| 101 | Anonymous | |
| 102 | anayah | |
| 103 | Dan Martinez | How can you call it suicide when Philadelphia city officials dropped a bomb on the building, producing a fire which burned the entire block down? |
| 104 | cynthia lyons | |
| 105 | nathaniel buckley | where did you get your information from |
| 106 | Anonymous | |
| 107 | Yvonne Orr | As daughter of a MOVE member, I am deeply saddened and outraged that a bomb being dropped on my MOVE family is being classified as a cult. I was raised and educated to be a loving, compassionate woman and I take exception to having this organization's history being anything less than truthful. TRUTH: I was robbed of my father and have been forced to co-opt our relationship between an iron fence. TRUTH: A government decided to use a token Black man as a pawn to commit murder on other Blacks, thus keeping Black on Black crime alive. TRUTH: I lost brothers, sisters, uncles and aunts in what has yet to be classified properly, a murderous day that could have been prevented. |
| 108 | Anonymous | I don't agree with the accusals against the MOVE organization and demand to remove them from the mentioned diffamation list. |
| 109 | Jennifer Rojas | |
| 110 | Amanda Hill | |
| 111 | Dezeray Rubinchik | MOVE Organization members have been brutalized and murdered by our government. They are now being purposefully defamed to illegitimize the organization and remove responsibility for what has been done to them by naming them as a 'cult' and trying to pass off the violent attacks on them as a 'mass suicide.' In doing this, the Guinness Book of World Records is now complicit in the victimization of this revolutionary organization along with the government and a violent, criminalist, racist police force who have the blood of MOVE men, women and children on their hands. This, yet another massive injustice to the MOVE organization, MUST be corrected immediately to reflect the actual historical events, attacks and killings that the organization and it's members have endured! |
| 112 | Brage Aronsen | This is outrageous! |
| 113 | Sabrina Green | Stop the defaming and categoizing by lies |
| 114 | movelies | Petition to free the MOVE 9? No to complain about a blurb in an already published book.
Does MOVE even want their members free?
There is frequently a tremendous disconnect between what MOVE says and what MOVE means. Often enough, the actions that they send their supporters out on, have at the very least duplicitous goals.
So while I take note of the rhetoric and stances that MOVE members and supporters are taking towards this parole issue, I must similarly take note that these same stances seem counterintuitive and counterproductive to their stated goals.
And it is not just the rhetoric that brings me to make this an issue.
Take for instance the following facts:
-The legal struggle for the freedom of the "MOVE 9" was abandoned completely earlier this year, but in reality the legal fight for the MOVE prisoners was put on a back-burner as Mumia’s case began to take center stage.
-While Mumia was provided with the best legal resources available, the "MOVE 9" were given a
second rate attorney. One attorney for all nine MOVE members (eight after the 1998 death of Merle Africa.)
-Legal appeals languished in limbo, not because of the "system", but because MOVE had issues with paying their legal bills, this while Jamal was given the full attention, time, and devotion of MOVE’s leadership and devotees of the group.
So, MOVE’s devotion, at least in the sense of the legal struggle can, at the very least, be called into question. From my view, it is rather apparent that as Jamal’s star shined, the cause of freeing the "MOVE 9" became de-prioritized.
It is not hard to see why. Jamal, articulate, not completely beholden to the ideology of John Africa, was far more marketable than were the more abrasive and more obviously cultish devotees of MOVE. As usual, even in so-called "radical politics" one can follow the money trail in order to ascertain where loyalties and priorities are held.
But perhaps more important than the profitability of leading the "Free Mumia" movement is also the question of maintaining the existing power structure of MOVE.
The world of MOVE that exists today is a far cry from the one that the eight surviving members of the "MOVE 9" left when they were arrested in 1978. Back in the 1970's John Africa who lived the life of austerity that he preached, was at the peak of his rule of the group. Now, as 2007 approaches, MOVE is controlled with an iron grip by Alberta Africa, a controlling woman with expensive tastes, lives in an expensive neighborhood, and has birthed a child via in vitro-fertilization and is on her second marriage to a white man (she was married to John Africa, but was in prison when he died in 1985.)
But more than just controlling, Alberta is maniacally cynical. I would not be shocked at all to learn that she would sabotage the parole of her "family" in order to ensure that her role as MOVE’s unquestioned leader stay firmly in place. She personally has nothing to gain by the release of the "MOVE 9" and has a good deal to lose.
While the MOVE prisoners have largely lived the austere life that John Africa proscribed, at least as much as they could while in prison, Alberta has lived a life opposite. She has embraced all of the things that the "system" has to offer, from the genetic manipulation that led to the birth of her child to the indulgence of alcohol and numerous other prohibitions of John Africa. She lives in a well-manicured upper middle class home with her latest "husband" Gary Wonderlin, a long-time MOVE supporter and real-estate agent.
There is no doubt in my mind that if MOVE members were to arrive home from jail to see the anti-thesis of John Africa’s "revolution" being played out by the group’s heir apparent, that there would be the kind of schism that would, at the very least, dismantle the life of comfort that Alberta has built for herself.
There is also the financial burden of eight convicted murderers, cultists, largely unemployable,
and wholly dependant upon the cult for their well-being. They are not the twenty something, able bodied, young men and women who went into prison some thirty years ago. They are practically senior citizens with nothing more than a sturdy devotion to the warped teachings of John Africa to guide them.
To put it simply, they are worth more to MOVE in prison than out of prison.
While in jail, the "MOVE 9", while not as alluring or financially attractive as Mumia, contribute to the mythology of the sect as one that is perpetually persecuted. The cause of attaining freedom for these MOVE members provides a convenient conduit of energy that is both pointless and fulfilling.
No authoritarian cult can exist without it’s "true believers" being deeply involved in a "cause". The likely futility of said cause is largely irrelevant. For the ultimate goal is not the success of the cause, but rather a means to an ends. That end being the continued psychological enslavement of the cult member or adherent.
For MOVE, this control is the goal and achievement which trumps all others. After all, after thirty years in prison the "MOVE 9" has stayed loyal to the cause, why ruin a good thing? |
| 115 | B. KWAKU DUREN | some things never change; repression breeds resistance |
| 116 | Ana Hedenstrom | |
| 117 | R. Guerrant | Be Right and Be Fair! |
| 118 | One Who Knows | Regardless of what former MOVE suck up, traitor, and known drug thief, T.A. lies about, nothing can alter the fact the the City of Philadelphia dropped a bomb and killed 11 innocent people. No fake 'arrest warrants' can atone for that. |
| 119 | Bruno Teixeira | STOP being brainwashed by the capitalist-neoliberal-corrupt-media and do your job properly. I wish more organizations like MOVE would exist so that people could start having faith in humanity. |
| 120 | Roger Drew | Stop these lies, now! |
| 121 | Jean Schwartz | |
| 122 | Rabie Africa | I am Rabie Africa I'm also in MOVE, ONA MOVE!!! FREE THE MOVE9!!! |
| 123 | Omar Africa | ONA MOVE!!! These Guinness fools could never be forgived to say such things and make people around the world believe that an important, vital, righteous family such as MOVE be misrepresented as they misrepresented them! MOVE is our work, and MOVE is essential to the survival or Life which includes mankind and our planet! ON THE MOVE, FREE THE MOVE9, AND KEEP EXPOSING INJUSTICE TILL IT FALLS WEAK!!! |
| 124 | Miroslav Tomas | |
| 125 | Ward Churchill | |
| 126 | Ward Churchill | |
| 127 | Natsu Taylor Saito | |
| 128 | Hubert Veselovský | |
| 129 | Marcus l lipsey | I,stand in solidarity with the move organization,in calling for the swift and immediate correction of information printed in yor history books.The brutal
caculated slaughter of this community stands as a horrif ic testimont to the barbarism innate in this system!!! |
| 130 | Marcus l lipsey | I,stand in solidarity with the move organization,in calling for the swift and immediate correction of information printed in yor history books.The brutal
caculated slaughter of this community stands as a horrif ic testimont to the barbarism innate in this system!!! |
| 131 | Ricardo Alvarez | Considering that civil juries found high ranking city officials complict in not just incompetence but a deliberate attempt to keep MOVE members from escaping the state extermination it seems especially cruel and callous to call the 1985 bombing a "Mass Suicide." It is about as sensitive as calling a KKK lyinching a suicide or as the first official report of Salvador Allende a "suicide" in which he would have stopped to reload the gun to continue shooting himself. The point is clear- the state and paramilitary arms of the state are capable of violence and murder. Indeed, the very death penalty which is the epitome of state violence in the US illustrates how the state can be complicit in the legal murder of innocent life. Your cruel categorization of the deaths of MOVE family - children and mothers and fathers- may stem from ignorance but it behooves you to correct it once you are notified. The reliance on the Cult Information Centre is not sufficient. There are primary source documents which can set the record straight. |
| 132 | Peachie | Truth crushed to earth will rise again!
1. The Move family is in their own house.
2. The cops pretend they want to 'serve a warrant'
3. They know that innocent people and babies are in the house.
4. They use water and bullets to assault the house, even though they know that innocent people and babies are in the house.
5.Then they decide to just drop a bomb on a residential house where there are innocent people and babies.
Guinness Book of Lies, how does this equate with calling MOVE a cult?
Retraction Demanded!
MOVE is not a cult! |
| 133 | Perin Futterman | Famlies were murdered by the Police when the MOVE home was bombed and burned to the ground. To say they committed "Mass Suicide" is a deliberate and manipulative lie by the publishers of GBWR and I will assure you that I will inform anyone I know to NOT buy this nonsense you call a "book".
If you called the Christian Church a cult there would be a mass uprising, what is the difference between these peoples who stand in their righteous beliefs. This is pure defamation.
The most righteous people on this earth today are Rastafari who stand for the Almighty GOD in their most holy trod to bring one love to all people.
Where is the honest information about Rastafari?
I want to know or do you call them a "cult" also?
Ignorance is the evil perpetrated by the systematic degradation of the righteous. |
| 134 | Angilia Booker | "THE POWER OF TRUTH IS FINAL"
-JOHN AFRICA |
| 135 | Jeff Crosby | this is a shame, how can people commit suicide by dropping a bomb from another person's hand onto themselves |
| 136 | Cory Mathews | |
| 137 | Damian Robson | you make yourselves accomplices to mass murder |
| 138 | Andy | ONE MOVE! |
| 139 | roy | |
| 140 | Desi | |
| 141 | Bryan | |
| 142 | Katrina | MOVE is and was an inspirational organization of people, resisting systems that would exploit themselves and other people. They were murdered. Children, and pregnant women, and men were murdered by the state and city police. You need to check your information and not print such stupid lies. |
| 143 | Hidde De Haan | Free MOVE, dont discredit them! |
| 144 | Anonymous | Guinness Book Of World Records please change your description of the MOVE organization..educate yourself.
"We don't intend to let MOVE be defamed like this because it's wrong and dangerous" |
| 145 | Le morvan Ian | |
| 146 | Michael Christopher | Forward The Revolution
forward the TRUTH |
| 147 | jonathan bagot | |
| 148 | manno | From Paris, France, thanks for everything you do |
| 149 | Tyeisha Schoolfield | |
| 150 | L. Denise Garner | MOVE is not a cult. MOVE is fighting for their lives and respects all of life. I have resd Guinness's for years. I just recently read a response from Guinness's saying something about "page 2. says we are not responsible for the contents in our book." ! ! ! That is so irresponsible. Can I write an article about anyone: even if it is a lie and as long as I say I am not responsible it is ok? You are not professional as you portray yourself to be and the world needs to know that. MOVE is not a cult. Cults sacrifice people and babies like Jim Jones who was supported by this systems political system. Those are the kind of things cults do. Doctors kill babies too, only they call it abortion. So you need to add doctors to your list of cults. Suicide is the taking of ones own life. On May 13th 1985, the MOVE familt of adults and children did not drop a bomb on theirselves. the family of adults and children did not murder+ themselves. That was done with federal explosives, a state helicopter, and city police! You have lost all validation.. You can rectify this by looking at the facts yourself and recanting this. This information about MOVE is worldwide. People will be watching. |